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[Tookay]

Hey guys, don't criticize the negative (and poorly-worded) review or you'll get scolded again by Solo for being Nolanites!

 

[Oddduck]

My prediction is that it'll have a higher RT score than Begins but a lower one than TDK. Probably somewhere around 90%.

Sounds like critics who only gave positive reviews to The Dark Knight for Heath's performance won't like this one as much.

Sounds about right. I can see this as well.

 

[Eidan]

Seems like the safest action is to hold off on critiquing the criticisms until you've seen the movie.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Looking through his past reviews, of the ones I've seen he has given every Marvel movie a good review and every DC a negative. Sure, the only DC one I've seen on his list was Green Lantern. But, Marvel fanboy confirmed!

 

[effzee]

My prediction is that it'll have a higher RT score than Begins but a lower one than TDK. Probably somewhere around 90%.

Sounds like people who only liked The Dark Knight for the Joker won't like this one as much.

Which is kinda expected and fine to me by now. I mean I loved the TDK but if I had any complaints, it was that Bruce and Batman are sort of pushed back to make room for Dent, Joker, and even Gordon. If TDKR keeps the epic scope and action of TDK but reverts back to the focus on Bruce that BB, then it might be the most perfect Batman movie ever.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Seems like the safest action is to hold off on critiquing the criticisms until you've seen the movie.

the dude called us a bunch of little kids who don't even like to read

 

[shira]

That got me too. It's like he criticizes the entire audience of Nolan's Bat-films.

I read Batman comics. I have a pretty good collection of them. It's funny that I just never read Knightfall and he mentions that.

Batgaf is too old for this shit.

Didn't you get the. . Oh I guess you don't do memos

 

[Don'tBeWeird]

I'm getting the 500 Internal Service Error. Looks like the site is getting blitzed.

It's all going according to plan, it's what they wanted.

 

[effzee]

Seems like the safest action is to hold off on critiquing the criticisms until you've seen the movie.

No I mean two people can see the same thing and come away with complete different experiences.

Negative reviews are just as valid as positive ones. Its just odd when mass majority is overly positive and you get 1-2 negative. And even those are fine but then some reviewers add weird things like "like transformers" or compare it to the Bush administration? WTF?

 

[Tookay]

Seems like the safest action is to hold off on critiquing the criticisms until you've seen the movie.

I agree. But I think everybody knows what they're getting into with this movie.

The oft-repeated (and easily foreseeable) criticisms of this movie will be:
1) No Heath Ledger
2) The length (second act seems to be balancing a lot)
3) The convoluted nature of the storytelling
4) It's not "fun" like Avengers, so it's like a callback to the Bush administration. Or something.

 

[Neffarias_Bredd]

I don't obsessively watch RT or care much, but it's still fun to follow

 

[Solo]

Bale is such a fucking humourless bore in every interview. Christ, lighten up dude

I'm interested to hear Mark Kermodes review on this. Hey didn't like the dark knight at all but was very fond of Batman Begins. His reviews are always good

Can't stand Kermode.

 

[Shrennin]

Batgaf is too old for this shit.

Didn't you get the. . Oh I guess you don't do memos

10/10

 

[Eidan]

Negative reviews are just as valid as positive ones. Its just odd when mass majority is overly positive and you get 1-2 negative. And even those are fine but then some reviewers add weird things like "like transformers" or compare it to the Bush administration? WTF?

I'm not saying someone's criticisms of negative reviews are or are not valid. I just consider it a good practice to see the movie before voicing them. It's the best way of warding off comments like "Quick! Dismiss the review Bat-GAF, lol".

 

[Oddduck]

More positive reviews have been added.

18 fresh 1 rotten.

 

[Daft_Cat]

I agree. But I think everybody knows what they're getting into with this movie.

The oft-repeated (and easily foreseeable) criticisms of this movie will be:
1) No Heath Ledger
2) The length (second act seems to be balancing a lot)
3) The convoluted nature of the storytelling
4) It's not "fun" like Avengers, so it's like a callback to the Bush administration. Or something.

I like you.

 

[The Elite]

I agree. But I think everybody knows what they're getting into with this movie.

The oft-repeated (and easily foreseeable) criticisms of this movie will be:
1) No Heath Ledger
2) The length (second act seems to be balancing a lot)
3) The convoluted nature of the storytelling
4) It's not "fun" like Avengers, so it's like a callback to the Bush administration. Or something.

I can't imagine anyone using this as a criticism.

 

[Solo]

There will be 200+ reviews by the time all is said and done.

 

[TDK Rises]

Digital Spy Movies‏@dsatthemovies
Just seen The Dark Knight Rises. 5-star brilliant - totally delivered on the hype. Review up on @digitalspy later today.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

I'm not saying someone's criticisms of negative reviews are or are not valid. I just consider it a good practice to see the movie before voicing them. It's the best way of warding off comments like "Quick! Dismiss the review Bat-GAF, lol".

As long as they aren't troll reviews for website hits like Armond White's, I'm fine with negative reviews. This one seems fine. Sure, the comparing the action to a Transformers movie seems dumb (especially when I see he gave Avengers a good review). But, from what I skimmed of the review he mainly didn't like how long the movie was and felt it could be cut down to tell a better story. Fair enough.

Looking at his other RT reviews, he isn't a troll reviewer. So, it's all good.

 

[Ithil]

I can't imagine anyone using this as a criticism.

They'll do it.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

My favorite critics, like A.O Scott, David Edelstein, or Roger Ebert, I just love seeing them describe their reactions to anything. Films, books, car washing, paying taxes, whatever. It's really got nothing to do with the movie.

But if it's a movie that the critic/movie blogsphere is going crazy about, or a movie I'm hyped for, then I don't read a lot of the reviews because I want to go in fresh.

So yeah, I don't really have a lot of use for film critics, at least in this pre-watching stage.

 

[OneEightZero]

Cutting in to the review discussion. Where can I find the complete track listing for the OST.
Track 1-15 is the standard release.
Track 18 is

Spoiler

The End

That's all I know. Help me fill in the blanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises_(soundtrack)

There may be spoilers in the track names. Heads up.

 

[artist]

I can't imagine anyone using this as a criticism.

Its already done in a few reviews.

 

[Quackula]

I remember there being a negative review for Batman Begins that basically hated it because of plot inconsistencies with the Burton/Schumacker films. Poor guy thought it was a prequel...

 

[Lonestar]

I'm getting the 500 Internal Service Error. Looks like the site is getting blitzed.

Don't go, there's spoilers halfway through.

 

[Solo]

So about 84 hours from now is when east coast, midnight showing GAF will be seeing this. I will have to Bale Out from that point til I see it Friday afternoon.

 

[Oddduck]

I remember there being a negative review for Batman Begins that basically hated it because of plot inconsistencies with the Burton/Schumacker films. Poor guy thought it was a prequel...

Haha I remember that. Good times.

 

[Krauser Kat]

Tom lennon being the doctor in this warms my heart. I love seeing him get work and i bet he was thrilled to work on a batman movie.

 

[artist]

None of which will mean anything to the target audience of Christopher Nolan’s “The Dark Knight Rises,” an audience too young to have been born, let alone old enough to read (or willing to read, for that matter), when the Bane storyline first surfaced in print.

Wait, what?

I kept telling you, we need college degrees to watch this film.

 

[Exile550]

I remember there being a negative review for Batman Begins that basically hated it because of plot inconsistencies with the Burton/Schumacker films. Poor guy thought it was a prequel...

I would love to read that. Got a link?

 

[The Elite]

So about 84 hours from now is when east coast, midnight showing GAF will be seeing this. I will have to Bale Out from that point til I see it Friday afternoon.

HA!

Holy shit! Where do you come up with this stuff?

I've barely looked at anything in regards to this film. I'm going in clean.

 

[Tookay]

I can't imagine anyone using this as a criticism.

They already have in a few reviews.

I like you.

Aw shucks. *blushes*

 

[demosthenes]

Link to the rotten

Contains spoilers.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

I can't imagine anyone using this as a criticism.

It's going to be in like every review, positive or negative. There will be a "while ____ is no Heath Ledger" or "(even) without the amazing acting spark of Heath Ledger" over and over.

 

[artist]

HA!

Holy shit! Where do you come up with this stuff?

You mean re-use BatGAF jokes? Yeah, he does that a lot.

 

[Solo]

BatGAF has jokes? Aside from Speeding cosplay?

 

[Skiesofwonder]

The Dark Knight Rises: 95%
Salute: 100%

TDKR isn't even the highest rated movie of the week. How the mighty have fallen. SMH

 

[Tookay]

BatGAF has jokes? Aside from Speeding cosplay?

Yeah. You and Sculli are two of our finest products.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

So about 84 hours from now is when east coast, midnight showing GAF will be seeing this. I will have to Bale Out from that point til I see it Friday afternoon.

we're both going friday afternoon lulz.

 

[Solo]

Yeah. You and Sculli are two of our finest products.

That hurts me bro. You're on the list.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

So about TDK's ending leading up to TDKR (and this might be a stupid question, I haven't seen TDK in long time), why would people believe that Batman would actually kill Dent? Weren't he and Dent on the same side?

 

[TDK Rises]

Average rate: 9.1

 

[OneEightZero]

So about TDK's ending leading up to TDKR (and this might be a stupid question, I haven't seen TDK in long time), why would people believe that Batman would actually kill Dent? Weren't he and Dent on the same side?

Batman essentially had to take credit for the chaos Dent causes.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

So about TDK's ending leading up to TDKR (and this might be a stupid question, I haven't seen TDK in long time), why would people believe that Batman would actually kill Dent? Weren't he and Dent on the same side?

people don't know that they were on the same side though. It's all about media spin.

 

[Messypandas]

So about TDK's ending leading up to TDKR (and this might be a stupid question, I haven't seen TDK in long time), why would people believe that Batman would actually kill Dent? Weren't he and Dent on the same side?

Because he was a nutjob in a Bat costume running around the city. Why wouldn't the public think he was capable of murdering someone eventually?

 

[Wilbur]

Guardian review is bad. Gives it 4/5 which is of course a great score, but spends the whole time dropping spoilers and taking the piss out of Bane's voice without giving any criticism, constructive or otherwise, before 'forcibly conceding' he liked the movie. Sigh. How they get paid for this I don't know.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jul/16/the-dark-knight-rises-first-review?mobile-redirect=false - spoilers

 

[Tookay]

So about TDK's ending leading up to TDKR (and this might be a stupid question, I haven't seen TDK in long time), why would people believe that Batman would actually kill Dent? Weren't he and Dent on the same side?

Well, Batman was wailing on SWAT ten minutes before, so I guess things could be explained that he went a little loony.

That hurts me bro. You're on the list.

You're a good sport.

 

[Rich!]

Guardian review is bad. Gives it 4/5 which is of course a great score, but spends the whole time dropping spoilers and taking the piss out of Bane's voice without giving any criticism, constructive or otherwise, before 'forcibly conceding' he liked the movie. Sigh. How they get paid for this I don't know.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jul/16/the-dark-knight-rises-first-review?mobile-redirect=false - spoilers

Really unlike the grauniad's usual standard.

 

[Angry Fork]

I'm one of the few that still says Avengers was a bad movie so I don't always discount negative opinions. Depends on the criticisms.