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I feel like that's any an easy answer for any question one might have for this movie:

How did he survive the blast? He's Batman.

How did he get all the way back to Gotham? He's Batman.

How did he know to be at that place the same time as Alfred? He's Batman.
Exactly!

The reveal for surviving the blast was perfect, as was the entire ending sequence. Gotta give Nolan his props for that, he always seems to know how to end his movies.

So do you guys think this is oscar worthy?
Not if TDK wasn't.
 
He was "son, you're in for a treat!" 's partner. And Mr. "son, you're in for a treat" was not impressed by his antics.

I just wish the EMP shot out a blob of electricity or something. It would make clear as to what was happening, especially as he later on disables all the Batmobile guns just by swooping by.
 
Haha, that was awesome, and falls in line with what I was saying earlier: the prison sequence features a fair bit of unexpected, but appreciated, comedy. Also loved when the guy who had been muttering in whatever language suddenly started speaking english. The look on Bruce's face was priceless.

Need more viewings to confirm, but my initial thought is that the prison scene, from beginning to Rhas to Bruce climbing out of the pit to the chanting, was the best sequence in the film.

yes this. I was in tears when the guy said, deal with the fair without the rope and the look on Bruce's face. Holy Shit!
 
1) Where was the prison? In Europe somewhere? Looked like an Aladdin place. How did Bruce get back to Gotham from there?

2) How did a seven year old outjump an adult?

3) How did a seven year old find her dad who she's never met before and left before she was born? Why?
 
Haha, that was awesome, and falls in line with what I was saying earlier: the prison sequence features a fair bit of unexpected, but appreciated, comedy. Also loved when the guy who had been muttering in whatever language suddenly started speaking english. The look on Bruce's face was priceless.

Need more viewings to confirm, but my initial thought is that the prison scene, from beginning to Rhas to Bruce climbing out of the pit to the chanting, was the best sequence in the film.

The prison scene was fantastic. One of my favorite parts of the film. I also LOVED Bane's monologue when breaking the prisoners out of Blackgate.
 
So do you guys think this is oscar worthy?

Aside from cinematography and maybe sound design/sound editing, no. Can't see any of the performances getting nominations, and it certainly won't get any editing noms, and Zimmer's score was ZzzZZzzZZzz.
 
So are we now to assume that Ra's was in fact more than cheap parlour tricks? I did really enjoy how this movie was more comic booky than the rest, while being one of the most unorthodox comic movies out there. Can it even be classified as one?

I don't like how they just sweep Bane aside. You don't build up a character like that so well only to shit on him from such great heights. That was fucked up.

I'm not sure how I feel about the third arc being dictated by a timebomb. An actual ticking clock felt like the literal manifestation of Nolan's movies since Prestige. At the same time, the urgency was well handled.

Batman vs Bane. Didn't pack much of an oomph.

Anne - fucking delicious.
 
I didn't like it very much. It felt much too messy (too many characters and things going on). Tons of plot holes and weird time jumps, too. And a lot of the more emotional moments really didn't work for me. It felt very forced. Like, they kept repeating things

There were quite a few moments that were very hard to suspend my disbelief for. Namely, when Bruce gets his spine broken, and the prison doctor fixes it by pushing the vertebrae back in. Like, really?

Another thing: it felt very comic book-y. I really didn't like that aspect of it. The Bat felt very science fiction-y, and I don't think it gelled with the universe that Nolan had established with the first two films.

Bane was okay. I didn't watch any trailers, so I was surprised to hear his voice for the first time. Definitely not what I suspected him to sound like. I liked it though. I didn't quite understand why he wore the mask. His face was crushed by the prison mob, so he had to wear a mask to A. hide the ugly and B. help him breathe? To keep the pain at bay? What?

Catwoman was cool, and I liked Anne Hathaway's interpretation of her, but she felt totally unnecessary to the plot. The movie would have been better off without her, I think. I really didn't like how she teamed up with Batman in the end to take down the bad guys. It felt very lame to me. Same with Joseph Gordon Levitt's character. I liked him well enough, but he took up way too much screen time. And his name is Robin? Wasn't Robin just an alias for the guy's real name in the comics? That scene just screamed fanservice. Nolan could have saved both of them both for a fourth film or something, but since he obviously isn't continuing with the franchise, it felt as if he just wanted to throw any/all ideas he had into this film.

Not sure how I feel about the ending. It could go either way. I sort of liked it I guess.
 
He wasn't really trying to kill him but rather break him. Both in body and spirit. If he wanted to kill Batman he would've been dead already

So do you guys think this is oscar worthy?
Maybe in some technical awards. Movie was really good on the eye balls. It's not going to win a lot that's for sure.
 
Not a lot of love for the supporting characters it seems.

I have huge problems with Blake, who's basically a Mary Stu.

Selina and Talia really didn't need to be in this either.

Alfred had some great scenes, but his disappearance midway through the movie was sort of an inexplicable move. Similarly, the downplay of Gordon until the very end felt off.

I don't remember any knee stuff in the fifth Rocky movie: Rocky Balboa. I haven't seen it in awhile though, so...

Oh you.
 
I don't remember any knee stuff in the fifth Rocky movie: Rocky Balboa. I haven't seen it in awhile though, so...

There was a scene at the beginning where he visits the doctor and due to injuries/concussions he can no longer box.

I always found those scenes a waste of time. We all know Rocky is going to fight, and we all know Batman gonna Batman. He got that knee brace thing and everything was fine.
 
1) Where was the prison? In Europe somewhere? Looked like an Aladdin place. How did Bruce get back to Gotham from there?

2) How did a seven year old outjump an adult?

3) How did a seven year old find her dad who she's never met before and left before she was born? Why?

The rope is what holds them back, it seems. It stops them from making the jump, but no one but those two were willing to do it without the rope (or they didn't realise it was stopping them).
 
The prisoners said there was an epidemic of some sort and that the Doctor in the prison developed it for him.
I believe the other prisoners mutilated his face after he helped Talia escape. He didn't get a mask before after Rhaz Al Ghul stormed the place and saved him. Means he was living in extreme agony for a while.
 
Was anyone else a bit disappointed with Bane's death? I don't know, I was hoping for more, I suppose.

He got shot, and I was like, "Damn, how does he get up from that?"

and then a minute later I was like, "oh, well I guess he isn't getting up". Talia steps on the scene, Bane is now sidekick position, and he's quickly taken out of the picture by Catwoman.
 
Was anyone else a bit disappointed with Bane's death? I don't know, I was hoping for more, I suppose.

It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.
 
It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.

Harvey is killed rather suddenly too, though. To the point that many people weren't sure if he was even dead.
 
It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.

To be fair, he was already bested by Batman... and Talia became the threat then...
 
The rope is what holds them back, it seems. It stops them from making the jump, but no one but those two were willing to do it without the rope (or they didn't realise it was stopping them).

No, the rope doesn't literally hold anyone back, the guy was just saying that the rope was mentally holding him back
 
There was a scene at the beginning where he visits the doctor and due to injuries/concussions he can no longer box.

I always found those scenes a waste of time. We all know Rocky is going to fight, and we all know Batman gonna Batman. He got that knee brace thing and everything was fine.


Batman going to the doc is just a way for him to get close enough to sneak over to see Gordon without the police guards seeing him.........

And I thought it was kind of funny hearing all the injuries he had
 
Forgot about the TDK snub, I can see an oscar nomination especially there being 10 movies in the list as compared to when it was TDK's time.

Snub is a powerful tool to have.
 
Man, I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who thinks that whilst JGL was good, the movie would have been entirely better off without his character. He felt like an unnecessary substitute for Gordon.

Same with Catwoman. She was enjoyable but ultimately hurt the film and was just another character stealing away much needed screentime from Bruce's journey which felt rushed.

Oh my God. I find myself nodding to Sculli's comments the most in this thread.

Jesus.
 
Haha, that was awesome, and falls in line with what I was saying earlier: the prison sequence features a fair bit of unexpected, but appreciated, comedy. Also loved when the guy who had been muttering in whatever language suddenly started speaking english. The look on Bruce's face was priceless.

Need more viewings to confirm, but my initial thought is that the prison scene, from beginning to Rhas to Bruce climbing out of the pit to the chanting, was the best sequence in the film.

Bane breaking Bruce was the best scene for me.

The prison chapter overall is ace on paper, but was poorly executed imo. A lot of little things stopped it from being as great as it could have been. I did fucking love love love the final chant as he rose, though.

The Thomas Wayne flashback was poorly handled and ill-timed. Rather than a full blown flashback, I would have liked to have seen Bruce fail one of his jumps, fall into blackness and simply HEARD Thomas Wayne's 'Why do we fall?' over the top of it. That is enough to inform us of Bruce's mental state. The flashback comes at a time when he isn't in any need of that motivation and so it is jarring, rather than inspiring or informing the scene.

I wish Ras had been dressed as Wayne was accustomed to seeing him. They should have made him match how he looked in BB, because he was dressed much more flamboyantly and there was a kind of disconnect with evolving the memory of Ras. Eg: See the scene (and don't hate me for this) where Kyle Reese revisits Sarah in her dream in T2. He looks the exact same as when he died, as he should.

Ultimately I just wish we had stayed with Bruce in prison until he left. He didn't have nearly enough screen time or development in there to satisfy me. It all seemed very rushed.

And again, I can't stress how much I would have loved it if - after Bane and co had stolen and destroyed Bruce's equipment, he was forced to return to his last resort in returning to the Begins suit. That would have made been a full circle moment and embracing of the beast he once was that would have made me pump my fist like nothing else.

I also would have loved it if - when Bruce decided he was going to kill Batman and somebody asked him what he was going to do at the end, he replies with 'What's necessary', before taking the bomb into the distance.

BOOM.
 
Harvey is killed rather suddenly too, though. To the point that many people weren't sure if he was even dead.

He was killed suddenly, yes. But it also directly followed what is essentially the most powerful scene in the film. Bane's death, on the other hand, comes after Talia simply walks out and Bane and Batman fight for a few seconds before Selina ends it. Dent's death also has serious ramifications and Bane's didn't.
 
1) Where was the prison? In Europe somewhere? Looked like an Aladdin place. How did Bruce get back to Gotham from there?

2) How did a seven year old outjump an adult?

3) How did a seven year old find her dad who she's never met before and left before she was born? Why?

2. Because he believed! Well, it's set up that the innocent child was afraid of death. That kind of fear gives you focus. Bruce wasn't afraid of death, which made him careless and reckless. He had to learn that when your life is on the line, you have to execute things perfectly.
 
Yeah it looked really good. Just like TDK (which looked even better, since it has the cop car shot).

It suffers from the same problem as TDK though, it lacks focus. Especially in the second half of the film. Everything feels incredibly rushed.

Still a great film however. Grade-a entertainment, no doubt.
 
He got shot, and I was like, "Damn, how does he get up from that?"

and then a minute later I was like, "oh, well I guess he isn't getting up". Talia steps on the scene, Bane is now sidekick position, and he's quickly taken out of the picture by Catwoman.

It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.

Yeah, it felt unresolved. I too thought that there was something else that was gonna happen after Catwoman shot him. They had a connection, which deserved a proper finish - so seeing him go out like this was disappointing.
 
I rather like Catwoman(out of fuckin' nowhere fan fiction romance at the end besides), but I didn't like JGL's character at all. I wish he wasn't here.

And I HATE that Alfred got written out of so much of the story
 
And again, I can't stress how much I would have loved it if - after Bane and co had stolen and destroyed Bruce's equipment, he was forced to return to his last resort in returning to the Begins suit. That would have made been a full circle moment and embracing of the beast he once was that would have made me pump my fist like nothing else.

I also would have loved it if - when Bruce decided he was going to kill Batman and somebody asked him what he was going to do at the end, he replies with 'What's necessary', before taking the bomb into the distance.

BOOM.

I won't lie, I probably would have creamed my pants if this had happened :lol

Especially the BB suit.
 
Bane was okay. I didn't watch any trailers, so I was surprised to hear his voice for the first time. Definitely not what I suspected him to sound like. I liked it though. I didn't quite understand why he wore the mask. His face was crushed by the prison mob, so he had to wear a mask to A. hide the ugly and B. help him breathe? To keep the pain at bay? What?

Wasn't it feeding him morphine or something? I think I remember hearing something about that, not really sure
 
So can we all say that Anne Hathaway stole the movie? Goddamn she was so good.

I always picture her a the girl from that Princess Diaries movie. All sweet and innocent. She really made it hers in this movie. Though Michelle Pfieffer is my fav. Shes just too batshit crazy and over the top not to love.
 
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