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DMczaf said:
That would have been way too Inceptiony. I think the audience needed that feeling of "Bruce Wayne is finally living his life." without any ambiguity.

He's got no money, no problems and is off in Italy fucking Selina Kyle every day.
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I was expecting Bruce Wayne with his back turned and we would only see Selina facing him/the camera. A direct acknowledgement that Bruce is alive but not quite him lounging back and grinning back at Alfred
 
CosmicGroinPull said:
I'm just gonna start replying to posts all the way back in this topic because I want to.




More like why didn't Bruce go to Lucius to get that awesomely compact yet powerful exoskeleton for his leg earlier? He likes his limp I guess

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He definitely was just laying about in his own sadness and guIlt. Wallowing in it.


He's not Batman anymo.
 
IDK, I liked the Bruce Wayne "sad end" death better. As it is, it's satisfying on a fan service level("Batman saved the day, and kicked ass, and now he's fucking Catwoman in Paris sipping drinks"), but it's a very fan-fiction ending. I just don't believe that Bruce Wayne would just give up on fighting crime altogether. And he better not go out in public too much, he's kinda a celebrity.

Then again, he gave up the cowl for 8 years because he had a sad, so this is clearly not a Bruce Wayne who's as driven as the various comic/TAS versions.
 
The one other cop guy (whose name escapes me. The guy who hid in his house, but then had a change of heart and joined teh final battle) what point did he serve in the film beyond yknow dying? I forget if he was important to the plot.
 
Korey said:
I agree with this. It's really bizarre to be honest. His character is so lame and corny.
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Like, there's nothing interesting going on with him. What his character does could have been easily accomplished through the already existing police character, Gordon. And the cuts back to him during the finale were pointless.

I don't care about the fate of these orphans when a nuclear fucking weapon may detonate.
 
I think Bane is my favorite villain in any movie ever, I had my suspicions about Wayne's lady friend from the get go but she wasn't nearly as cool as her "protector".
 
It was a small scene but Selina on a dime turning helpless victim when the cops came into bar and how she slithered out as they shifted their attention was so awesome.

I really loved that moment.
 
EliteArtist said:
The one other cop guy (whose name escapes me. The guy who hid in his house, but then had a change of heart and joined teh final battle) what point did he serve in the film beyond yknow dying? I forget if he was important to the plot.
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He was kind of a proxy for the normal Gothamite. 1st act, fuck Bane, we want to catch Batman at any cost! 2nd act, the cost was too high, I'm scared shitless now, 3rd act, if this city has any chance of surviving, I've got to fight for it. Things like that.
 
Tookay said:
Like, there's nothing interesting going on with him. What his character does could have been easily accomplished through the already existing police character, Gordon. And the cuts back to him during the finale were pointless.

I don't care about the fate of these orphans when a nuclear fucking weapon may detonate.
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Man, the fuckin' little orphans sub-plot. I could not care less about Mary Stu Supercop and the Lil' Rascals, which ended up going nowhere anyway.
 
EliteArtist said:
The one other cop guy (whose name escapes me. The guy who hid in his house, but then had a change of heart and joined teh final battle) what point did he serve in the film beyond yknow dying? I forget if he was important to the plot.
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He wasn't really.. other than showing... well.. what a hothead gets you in Gotham... he decides to pursue Batman instead of Bane.. and he hides out when the going gets tough.. but does come around
 
EliteArtist said:
The one other cop guy (whose name escapes me. The guy who hid in his house, but then had a change of heart and joined teh final battle) what point did he serve in the film beyond yknow dying? I forget if he was important to the plot.
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Yeah I felt like his entire scenes could have been cut and save movie time but I guess he serves as a proof that Batman inspires everyone. He only came out of hiding after he saw the Bat burning signal.
 
Point of Blake is that he was a truly good hearted individual that would stop at nothing to help, he's relentless thus making him a perfect candidate to replace Bats.
 
Again, did the US government not ask Bane for any demands? They just sat there for five months? How about having some super secret elite SEALs swimming there and finding the bomb or taking out Bane?

It's like Gotham existed in a vacuum and the only people who cared were the dumb cops guarding the bridge for five months.
 
I felt like he represented the "corrupt" or rather kinda "scummy" side of Gotham, and then he comes around and ends up fighting for the city and the people and regaining his honor. His character was all about symbolism, to me.
 
Tookay said:
The more I think about it, the more I start to really dislike JGL's character. He felt like such a Mary Stu. He's created by the series' director, is super awesome at everything, with few flaws, and even gets to (possibly) become Batman!
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Nolan made him too close to mainstream Dick.
 
Korey said:
Again, did the US government not ask Bane for any demands? They just sat there for five months? How about having some super secret elite SEALs swimming there and finding the bomb or taking out Bane?

It's like Gotham existed in a vacuum and the only people who cared were the dumb cops guarding the bridge for five months.
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Wait...5 months? I don't remember that amount of time passing.
 
hayejin said:
Yeah I felt like his entire scenes could have been cut and save movie time but I guess he serves as a proof that Batman inspires everyone. He only came out of hiding after he saw the Bat burning signal.
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Yea, again another proxy for the average Gothamite type deal. He's cocky and self assured in the beginning much like the citizens who aren't really of the knowledge or care of what's about to hit them. And when it does, it scares them until Batman coming back is the only thing that can save them, inspire them. He was a huge prick about Batman in the beginning, so the inspiring symbol moment is supposed to represent his, and Gotham's, willing to believe in Batman and fight with him.
 
EliteArtist said:
The one other cop guy (whose name escapes me. The guy who hid in his house, but then had a change of heart and joined teh final battle) what point did he serve in the film beyond yknow dying? I forget if he was important to the plot.
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That's Matthew Modine's character and he had very little significance. I think he could have been cut entirely to streamline the movie a bit.
 
What are the chances that Alfred and Bruce and Catwoman are all at the same bistro at the same time? And Alfred, who had been distraught over Bruce's death, wasn't completely bewildered at this sight?

I sort of wish he looked at the camera and it ended right there.
 
Scullibundo said:
I feel like the GCPD are the live action version of Springfield cops in The Simpsons.

'You're in for a show tonight, son' is Chief Wiggum.
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They were horrible in this film.

From piling up more wrecked cars to ALL OF THEM getting trapped underground at the same time to their melee against Bane goons, they were fumbling around for the entire film.
 
Korey said:
I agree with this. It's really bizarre to be honest. His character is so lame and corny.
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I was liking him well enough (except for that "I saw in your eyes that you were Batman" crap) but having his name actually be Robin is some of the corniest spoon-feeding of an audience I have ever seen. Other than that his character was just bland more than anything else.
 
Korey said:
Again, did the US government not ask Bane for any demands? They just sat there for five months? How about having some super secret elite SEALs swimming there and finding the bomb or taking out Bane?

It's like Gotham existed in a vacuum and the only people who cared were the dumb cops guarding the bridge for five months.
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I thought they sent in those men that rallied with Gordon/Blake before being taken out at Wayne Enterprises?
 
zethren said:
Wait...5 months? I don't remember that amount of time passing.
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It is pretty easy to miss, unless I missed a second reference. You have to catch how long Bane says the bomb has, and then piece it together with how much time is left when the special forces dudes show up and Gordon tells them what is up.
 
Korey said:
Again, did the US government not ask Bane for any demands? They just sat there for five months? How about having some super secret elite SEALs swimming there and finding the bomb or taking out Bane?

It's like Gotham existed in a vacuum and the only people who cared were the dumb cops guarding the bridge for five months.
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...it's a comic book movie. All the impossible things hat occurr in these movies are okay, but Gotham, like most other comic book movie cities is cut off from the world. Accept it and move on. Like you accept a nut in a bat suit trying to make a fictional city a better place.
 
Definitely putting together a Modine/ Jeezy music video when his comes out on bluray.

I PUT OOOOONNNNNNNN



I PUT ONNNNNNNNN


I PUT ON FOR MY CITY
 
Roche said:
I think Bane is my favorite villain in any movie ever, I had my suspicions about Wayne's lady friend from the get go but she wasn't nearly as cool as her "protector".
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I loved Bane. I simply wish I could have understood 100% of his dialogue in the movie within the first hour or so. Everytime he spoke you could feel the cinema take it all in; whether that's the impact of Tom Hardy or the screenwriting prowess is up for interpretation. But it's undeniable to suggest that Bane didn't have the same impact as the Joker with perhaps less screen time presence.
 
Tokubetsu said:
Bane explicitly says it'll take the core five months to decay. The weather also changes.
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Yeah I must have missed him say that, though I did notice the weather change.

Damn. A 5 month occupation of Gotham City, with NO outside intervention and criminals roaming free would make for its own very awesome movie. Bain effectively running the show, with Judge Scarecrow passing out sentences, the Joker and his crew attempting to take control entirely of the city, etc etc etc.

Criminal power struggle and Batman's struggle to return/defeat Bain sounds great.
 
we.are.the.armada said:
What are the chances that Alfred and Bruce and Catwoman are all at the same bistro at the same time? And Alfred, who had been distraught over Bruce's death, wasn't completely bewildered at this sight?

I sort of wish he looked at the camera and it ended right there.
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Probably about the same chance that suddenly Bruce Wayne has all this money that he can escape to this bristo, and give Alfred a bunch of money why he's at it, and then the mansion's a new home for all the orphans, and super-awesome John Blake is actually Robin and now he gets to be Batman.

It's like that super-tidy happy ending from Minroity Report, except you don't have the "it was all a dream!" theory to fall back on to explain all the sunshine and lollipops they just gave you for a conclusion.
 
I thought the corniest moment was when the main villain died (the lady from Inception - I don't even remember her name) and went on about following in her father's footsteps, complete with a little "oh" right before dying. It was every cliché possible in a death scene.

Bane turning stupid at the end with the emotional thing was pretty funny.

Overall not a bad movie, though.
 
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