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IamMattFox
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Dude, my IMAX didn't play anything before the film. Just started it right up with the Warner Studios opening.
The heck is that business? I wanted my Skyrim, Hobbit, Man of Steel, etc. trailers. =(
Guess they're trying to get as many showings in as possible. Showed up at 4:30 in the afternoon and they told a couple that they were sold out until 5:30 am.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I don't know what that means. Do you mean literally his name wasn't Ras Al Ghul or like he wasn't the big bad ass he would become?
Either way, we don't know what she knew about him. But it's not a stretch at all to think her mother told her things about him.
It definitely wasn't in America.
Don't ask how Bane got on a plane and transported Bruce without anybody noticing.
Don't ask how Bruce got back into a quarantined city.
Solo is really pissed he didn't quote this first right now.
Ephemeris
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precisely. I could entertain a Joker vs Bane debate, but scarecrow? :lol
ryutaro's mama
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Dude, it's a valid gripe but in the end it's whatevers.
How about this?
In Empire Strikes Back, (a movie just about everyone loves) Luke Skywalker travels to Dagobah, looking for a person he has never met and lands within yards of where he lives.
That would be like if I was flying to Earth (and I had never been here) and I happened to land a few yards next to my destination.
What are the chances?
But in the end, it doesn't really matter because, that plot hole isn't enough to destroy the film for me and the one you are calling out isn't enough for me here either.
Gucci Messiah
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Sometimes the truth is a terrible argument
Hero_of_the_Day
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He hasn't come back to Gaf since asking for a permaban if he was full of shit.
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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That's the joke.
Besides Anne, I think Nolan has trouble directing women. None of the women in his films have been very engaging or good. Anne Hathaway somehow escapes that curse in this movie. I really liked her performance and she was what I most worried about.
Damn that sucks!
Raonak
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I never "got" scarecrow. he was pretty pathetic.
His cameos in TDK and TDKR were both awesome.
SerArthurDayne
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Me neither. Museum so I guess they don't do trailers. I still would have thought Man of Steel would have been physically attached to all prints.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Solo is just a man behind a keyboard. That is why he couldn't save the thread and that is why he couldn't stop this quote.
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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I couldn't tell who did the voice over in the one I saw.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Dude. The force. This isn't even a bullshit sarcastic answer.
Roger Ebert in his review recognizes the actual prison and says it is in Jodhpur, Rajasthan, India. Obviously the film doesn't elaborate if this is the same place.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Oh, I thought you meant his 8 year exile after TDK, not his presumably permanent one after TDKR. In that case, I don't think it was age so much as the physical limitations of him as a person. He was in horrible condition just from fighting R'as, Two-Face, Joker, and Scarecrow... none of which were serious physical threats. After being pummeled by Bane a couple times (and taking a pretty serious shanking from Talia to top it off) I'm sure that he was truly too battered down to effectively be The Batman any more. With the barometer of realism that Nolan's films are held to by himself and the fans, I would find it very unrealistic to think that a guy who has been shot, attacked by several dogs, stabbed, fallen several stories several times, whacked repeatedly with a crow bar, set on fire, crashed his bat-pod at high speed, had his back broken, and then took a few more heavy blows from Bane to top it off could possibly be in any condition to pose a serious threat to anyone. I don't think it was a choice so much as a necessity.
CosmicGroinPull
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Oh - another proof that Bruce stayed 'Batman'/Gotham's savior between end of TDK and scrapping the energy project - he did things like buying the Clean Slate program so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands, even outsmarting Daggett before he could get it.
ryutaro's mama
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That's a fucking cop out answer.
I doubt they'd keep the Joker with the other prisoners.
IamMattFox
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Weird. Mine was a Cinemark. I guess if they save 15 minutes per showing they can get an extra one in on Sunday-ish?
I really wanted to see the Bond trailer.
You'd be fine. Free promotion. I did already see that one in the other DKR thread. ;D It was kind of boring compared to the hard-to-see ComicCon footage.
UltraMagnanimous
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Bane had the resources of a billionaire which he subsequently killed, surely a comic book movie evil billionaire can smuggle people in and out of a country?
Right.
But we can tell by the chanting, the foreign language being used by the prisoners, and the general fact that places don't exist like that in America that it probably doesn't exist in America.
Sorcerer
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In Empire, I think its very possilbe Yoda could have used the Force to have Lukes X-Wing crash where it did. Its not going to be explained because it would ruin Yoda's reveal.
CosmicGroinPull
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They believed in what the league stood for, Gotham needed to be destroyed in their minds
It's still kind of strange. People move great distances and across huge time spans with barely a shrug from the editing department.
The movie plays very loose with geography and time.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I know this sounds like a cop out... but when talking about batman and bane, isn't the fact that one is batman and the other bane enough justification to believe that they could pull off both respective tasks? I think it's to be assumed that their abilities and cunning exceeds the typical Gotham citizen.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Fuck it, it's time to continue the Nolanverse through an animated series
Hear hear!
What a fantastic movie. Really liked it. Anne was fantastic. JGL was great. But Bale... man, Bale brought it. Him in the prison, I love that whole part. Alfred leaving left me close to man-tears. And that ending... damn, for a moment I thought they were for real. And then they showed Bruce and Selina together, I was like:
I thought Bane was pretty good. Talia was... okay. I liked her and Bane's relationship at the end. The fight choreography was great, both Batman/Bane fights were awesome.
Man, if we continued the Nolanverse with JGL or an animated series, that'd be sweet, but I know that's a pipe dream. Fantastic close to Bruce Wayne's tale.
One that thing that ticked me off though is no Batman/Scarecrow face-off. Would have been a great moment to see Batman put Crane in his place again. Huge missed opportunity.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Well there's no denying that. But, I still think that's the answer you'd get from the creator.
Bane was kicked out before the Mind Your Surroundings course came up in his training montage.
He never had a chance.
Ra's wanted to flood gotham with the gas in BB and failed because of bruce, he never completed his destiny, Talia wanted to do it for her father and Bane is merely just her guardian and willing to do anything for her.
IRL, I don't even think it was that. It was something the production crew set up. It's just the fortress itself beyond the well that's real.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Yeah, it's just when you really think about it, he spends so little time as Batman, compared to what we're used to (comics, TV shows).
I'd be happy with a solid 5-8 year stretch of him Batmanning it up, 2 or 3 is just too short.
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Deadly Monk should be permanently banned, as he requested.
UltraMagnanimous
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That would explain why I cannot find pictures of it on google.
We are talking about slightly different things I think. Nolan may have wanted the effect of flurry of motion for the Batman fights (as an artistic choice) but the scenes are shot in fundamentally different ways also. This is how fight choreography works. Moves are planned with a start and end point for a set of movements, to create the illussion of a continuous fight, not to actually be one. The camera in the Ra's sword fight is placed at numerous different angles for the beggining of each movement set (watch the scene and look at the cuts). That can only be done by repositioning the camera and doing lots of takes, not just by shooting with multiple cameras from different angles (and still doing multiple takes). Basically he is editing the first fight in the Camera (which is really what I should have said to begin with) the other fights aren't shot like this. whether I'm right about why they weren't is just my guess work though. Does that make what I'm saying clearer?
Edit: I also know for a fact he is one of the rare directors who shoots scenes in consecutive order and then edits at the end of the film's shoot. So taking this approach with his first fight scene would make sense to me. It would be a very self taught way of doing things, which is what Nolan is all about.
You can't deny that seeing Bruce actually journey back instead of randomly appearing in Gotham would be more impactful and add weight to his struggle.
Antiochus
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Once again, a fitting line ruined by the masked gutterals
Song totally ruined it for me. All I could think of was "FLY, YOU FOOLS!"
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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His one weakness was sleeping in during that day. Oh Bane.
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