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kittens
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If what you say turns out to be true, I will be SO fucking disappointed. I don't even care if Bruce comes back. I mostly just want some more Robin and Catwoman action. They were both so good, and deserve more screen time.
DeathbyVolcano
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Blake probably doesn't need to know he's alive, if that's how you think it is. Wayne's supposed death, the act of valor and heroism he displayed to his end, and Blake's frustrations with authority are enough to push him towards "the will to act."
But regardless, he knows. How the fuck could he not when he got the coordinates? Bruce wouldn't give him those coordinates after first meeting him.
edit: some of my gripes:
-Batman voice wasn't as bad this time around, but good christ when it was bad, it was fucking terrible. Why in god's name would he use the voice when he's talking to himself??? And when people call him Bruce while he's in his suit...why the need for the voice anymore, especially when he was stabbed by Talia?
-Bane went out like a bitch. I suppose its fitting, but I was hoping for Batman to truly defeat him. Well, I suppose he did...eh, I don't know. I would've liked a bit more of a poetic demise for Bane.
Otherwise it was fucking great, the most epic of the trilogy. It also at the same time saddens me, thinking of what grand of a playground Gotham would've been for the Joker in this state. Imagine Scarecrow's court, but with Joker...I don't know, taking over a school or playhouse. Eeeeeek that would've been awesome.
Thanks Solo. Those thoughts I pretty much agree with completely. For me: TDK >=TDKR > BB
Begins is a great origins film but it just doesn't tickle my fancy as a BATMAN film.
Oh, its true. I'm not speculating. These are facts.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I think that is by far the most likely scenario, with the tiniest of chances WB will try and get JGL to actually be Batman and continue on from here. Absolutely no Bale or Nolan, though.
I definitely agree it doesn't matter whether Blake knows if Wayne is still alive.
It depends on when the will was altered. Blake could probably very easily find out if Wayne was still alive if the will was altered after the nuke.
JGL is too short and small to wear the classic Batsuit. I'd be ok with him having a Redrobin suit I guess, but I'd rather just have a new Batman.
Didn't Nolan say he's done with batman forever? I heard somewhere that Warner Brothers is already rebooting the batman franchise now that DKR is over (of course this will be YEARS from now)
It doesn't matter when the will was altered. The fact that it was altered is all you need to know. There is absolutely NO reason Bruce would amend his will to include Blake if he weren't planning to move on and pass the torch.
Messypandas
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WB would be daft not to test the waters with JGL in the mantle. Amazing proved how ho hum audience are on reboots so soon after a trilogy. Theres still plenty of stories to tell and plenty of angles of attack.
vas_a_morir
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I think they are trying to do a justice league thing. So, perhaps they need a Batman that will fit better into that universe.
TheDarkKnight774
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He should be Nightwing.
I think he's supposed to be helping to produce a new one but that's it. It would be bad if he was directing it anyway as the tone will probably be radically different compared to this trilogy.
That's not my point. It was clear he decided on Blake as a successor very early on. I was just pointing out that Blake might not know at that the end of the movie that Wayne is still alive. It's an ultimately pointless detail though as Blake is smart enough to figure stuff out anyway.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Well there is no chance they would do a sequel where he wasn't Batman. Nobody is going to see a Red Robin or Knightwing movie. Being too short isn't really a problem in movies, and he could beef up a bit.
Not that I think it will happen, full reboot is by far the most likely path. It would be weird/hard to do a sequel with him as Batman 'cause it would be a sequel and reboot at the same time since you would have to fill his world with a whole new supporting cast.
Pretty sure he shot this notion down a couple weeks ago. He is 100% done with Batman in any capacity.
Salvor.Hardin
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If this movie didn't feel so much like Dark Knight Returns, I would have loved to see a DKR movie with Nolan and Bale returning years from now for a final swan song.
Hell, I'd still like to see that.
Hell, I'd still like to see that.
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DeathbyVolcano
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This movie also totally felt like Arkham City: the Movie at points. Added to my enjoyment 
If Tom Hardy can look like a hulking beast then JGL can look tall.
Could still do it in like 15 years. Pick up with Blake as Batman being killed by a new evil in Gotham that makes Bane look like a teddy bear. Bruce, unwilling to just stand by, returns to Gotham a crotchety old Batman.
Salvor.Hardin
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The real question is, when is too soon for a new Joker? I imagine that character won't be touched for a long ass time. Then again, you never know with Hollywood.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I wouldn't have thought he would do such a thing either, until I saw the trailer for his bicycle action movie. He apparently will do things just for money.
Didn't he say something after TDK that he wasn't doing another Batman movie? I have no doubt he's not directing but he still might help out a bit with writing supervision or some other level.
They handed him a bag, in the bag was a gps and coordinates along with climbing gear.
Any attempt to reboot Batman will be overshadowed tremendously by this trilogy, it's just too good.
I think a lot of you are overanalysing this film way too much, examine any movie so intensely and it will have flaws. For my money, I thought this film was compelling, superb and a great way to finish off the story they'd already started.
I think a lot of you are overanalysing this film way too much, examine any movie so intensely and it will have flaws. For my money, I thought this film was compelling, superb and a great way to finish off the story they'd already started.
Let's shelve Joker, Two-Face, and Rhas for a while.
I want to see Black Mask, Hugo Strange, and a serious take on Mr. Freeze.
TheDarkKnight774
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So Batman Beyond the movie? *thumbs up*
DeathbyVolcano
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No, because he was signed for another one after TDK at that point. He likes to break up his schedule though with his own projects, though.
No, because Blake is dead. So Bruce becomes Batman again.
Freeze played as well as Harvey was would be fantastic.
Christopher Lee would be a good Strange if he wasn't so old.
Leeroy3101
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So a day has passed since I've seen it. I gave my thoughts yesterday but one thing is really starting to sink in. It's phenomenal, when compared to The Avengers, how Nolan made such a great endgame in TDK but also TDKR. That's what hits me the most about Rises.
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kittens
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Yeah, I was considering the possibility of JGL as Batman, too. I'd be 100% okay with that. I don't particularly care, though. I just want JGL's character to return.
A reboot seems so utterly pointless to me. Not just pointless, but wasteful! There's too many awesome characters / events left to explore from the Nolan trilogy. I don't even mind if someone else directs. I kind of agree with this:
A serious Freeze would be hard to pull off.....
Black Mask or even Great White Shark would be quality.
We'll see. He's definitely done directing but I still think the new director is going to come to Nolan for advice and what not.
RyanardoDaVinci
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There's no time-frame given for when the ending scenes take place.
The auto-pilot was fixed "six months ago," and I'd guess it would take a few, maybe even six months, for Gotham to get up and running again. It's entirely possible Bruce fixed the auto-pilot before getting whooped by Bane, or right when he got back from the prison.
Good movie.
Obviously flawed but still tied up the series in a satisfying way. I still think BB was the best movie in the trilogy, but I'm going to rewatch all three by next week so I can properly compare and contrast.
Also, like I forecast, TDKR was a better movie than Avengers but I liked the latter much more. It's a very rare movie that can channel pure hype and euphoria as well as TA did.
Obviously flawed but still tied up the series in a satisfying way. I still think BB was the best movie in the trilogy, but I'm going to rewatch all three by next week so I can properly compare and contrast.
Also, like I forecast, TDKR was a better movie than Avengers but I liked the latter much more. It's a very rare movie that can channel pure hype and euphoria as well as TA did.
DeathbyVolcano
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I want a Penguin villain.
Done well enough in TAS and Arkham City to show it can be done.
BertramCooper
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The pinnacle of the film was Bane blowing up Heinz Field.
Clearly, he's a Browns fan.
Clearly, he's a Browns fan.
ryutaro's mama
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No need for a Wizards Nolan...
DeathbyVolcano
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Baha yeah I loved how the entire Gotham team was the Steelers. They even mentioned Gordon's family going to Cleveland. Someone must really hate Pittsburgh 
They even explained that Gordon's wife and kids left him and moved to Cleveland lol
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