Now that's a stretch. The autopilot thing definitely didn't seem like a five minute or overnight fix otherwise Lucious would have done it awhile ago despite how busy he was. Bruce had plenty of free time before he got his back snapped. While we don't know the exact day Bruce got back to Gotham, the timeframe for that is pretty narrow considering he had to come all the way from India and sneak into the city. Yea there's no real timeframe in this movie, it makes much more sense the repair was done before the clock was in the last stretch.
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Now that's a stretch. The autopilot thing definitely didn't seem like a five minute or overnight fix otherwise Lucious would have done it awhile ago despite how busy he was. Bruce had plenty of free time before he got his back snapped. While we don't know the exact day Bruce got back to Gotham, the timeframe for that is pretty narrow considering he had to come all the way from India and sneak into the city. Yea there's no real timeframe in this movie, it makes much more sense the repair was done before the clock was in the last stretch.
BertramCooper
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I love how they didn't even attempt to mask Heinz Field. It was so obvious, what with the UPMC, Heinz, and Giant Eagle signs.
He has a great backstory, the problem is with the outfit and ice-related technology.
I think a visual flashback might have been more effective compared to a general retelling.
I do find it funny how everybody said Bale was a horrible Wayne. Welp looks like that was done on purpose now in order to make Blake's discovery more believable.
lol
TheDarkKnight774
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I chalked that up to he had a hunch. It wasn't instant, it was more he got a lead through instincts and has been researching it for years, just like the Harvey Dent case.
He is a great villan, with a really good backstory but for me the Riddler would make the transition to the big screen better (depending on actor).
And hell I would nerdgasm for a Nolan-Riddler batman movie. But I know it will never happen.
Yea that's what I figured but the way they displayed it on film it seemed pretty rushed.
BertramCooper
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One of my biggest gripes is how Gotham looked absolutely nothing like it did in the previous films. At all.
That sort of visual inconsistency bothers me.
That sort of visual inconsistency bothers me.
Well, they couldn't just arbitrarily blow the place up. It was an example, anyways.
When she was ready to blow it up, the detonator was jammed by the thankgodwehavethisthingthatjamsdetonators device.
Inferno313
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To be fair, the same thing happened from Begins to TDK.
Ape Gone Insane
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That was funny but marred by his growling voice. Why speak like that when you're alone, I will never understand.
It's not that difficult to figure that Bruce is Batman. All of Bruce's comings and goings, his physical appearance and disfigurements, all coincide with Batman's. He's the only person wealthy enough to fund that kind of operation. The only reason no one would actually believe it is because no one would buy Bruce Wayne (as he presents himself) being any kind of heroic figure.
Blake can tell that Bruce, as he sells himself, is just a mask. Once you realize that, the coincidences that link Bruce to Batman become more believable.
Probably has a voice modulator in the suit itself which makes sense really.
Because there might be some damn kid up on the rooftop that will end up being in an HBO show in 8 years. Always Be Batman.
I thought they maintained the look well without repeating the exact locations (except Wayne Tower 2 from TDK). It didn't feel any different to me. Maybe it is more noticeable to American viewers.
human onion
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Saw it. Great movie and great conclusion to the series, but it still has problems carried over from the other movies. Pretty much every villain has this unbelievable and complicated master plan that always works out until the end. I guess it takes me out of the realism that the movie is trying to pull off.
Overall, I'd put it under the other movies, but not by much.
Overall, I'd put it under the other movies, but not by much.
Okay, so over the course of 8 Batman movies (B66, B89, BR, BF, B&R, BB, TDK, TDKR), we've seen:
The Joker - 3 times (Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger)
Harvey Dent - 3 times (Billy Dee Williams, Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhart)
Catwoman - 3 times (Lee Meriwether, Michelle Pfieffer, Anna Hathaway)
The Penguin - 2 times (Burgess Meredith, Danny DeVito)
The Riddler - 2 times (Frank Gorshwin, Jim Carrey)
Bane - 2 times (Robert Swendson, Tom Hardy)
Mr. Freeze - 1 time (Arnold Schwartnezegger)
Poison Ivy - 1 time (Uma Thurman)
Scarecrow - 1 time (Cillian Murphy)
Rhas Al Ghul - 1 time (Liam Neeson)
Talia Al Ghul - 1 time (Marion Cotillard)
Need some of the rogues gallery who haven't been given a shot to receive a chance. Black Mask, Clayface, Hugo Strange, etc. Let's go!
The Joker - 3 times (Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger)
Harvey Dent - 3 times (Billy Dee Williams, Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhart)
Catwoman - 3 times (Lee Meriwether, Michelle Pfieffer, Anna Hathaway)
The Penguin - 2 times (Burgess Meredith, Danny DeVito)
The Riddler - 2 times (Frank Gorshwin, Jim Carrey)
Bane - 2 times (Robert Swendson, Tom Hardy)
Mr. Freeze - 1 time (Arnold Schwartnezegger)
Poison Ivy - 1 time (Uma Thurman)
Scarecrow - 1 time (Cillian Murphy)
Rhas Al Ghul - 1 time (Liam Neeson)
Talia Al Ghul - 1 time (Marion Cotillard)
Need some of the rogues gallery who haven't been given a shot to receive a chance. Black Mask, Clayface, Hugo Strange, etc. Let's go!
Salvor.Hardin
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Completely agreed. A TAS take on Freeze would be incredible.
The whole movie I'm like, Bane is such an awesome villain, with a brain, muscle, determination and a somewhat deep background! How did Nolan pull this off?
Final Scene, oh look, Bane is a lovable, servant Oaf. /facepalm. He went from awesome Villain/Anti-hero to Frankenstein/Quasimodo in 5 seconds.
Also, in their first fight Batman can't really do crap to him but in the second fight Banes mask is always exposed to getting damaged, like Batman wasn't smart enough to realize the mask helps him in some way the first fight ?
But you know what? I really really liked it anyway
I can't wait for the blu-ray!
Edit: You know what, now that I've replayed it, Batman actually gets Bane a couple of times in the first fight a lot but does no damage. But then again he really doesn't seem to connect ....
Final Scene, oh look, Bane is a lovable, servant Oaf. /facepalm. He went from awesome Villain/Anti-hero to Frankenstein/Quasimodo in 5 seconds.
Also, in their first fight Batman can't really do crap to him but in the second fight Banes mask is always exposed to getting damaged, like Batman wasn't smart enough to realize the mask helps him in some way the first fight ?
But you know what? I really really liked it anyway
I can't wait for the blu-ray!Edit: You know what, now that I've replayed it, Batman actually gets Bane a couple of times in the first fight a lot but does no damage. But then again he really doesn't seem to connect ....
The visual style was more consistent form TDK to TDKR but TDKR was really obviously filmed in New York. As in, numerous wide shots of Manhattan Island with nothing obscured, prominently featuring the new One World Trade Center, Brooklyn Bridge, Wall Street, etc. Maybe TDK was just as obvious to someone who's visited Chicago repeatedly but I felt that they tried more at mixing up/obscuring the real world locations in TDK. There were a few obvious shots but the Sears Tower didn't dominate the skyline or anything like that.
Overall a fairly minor point but it bugged me. By the end of the movie I couldn't think of the city as the Gotham from BB and TDK anymore. It was just so obviously Manhattan.
Hobbestetrician
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Having the field crumble behind him is probably the only way Hines Ward was ever going to return a kickoff 100-yards for a touchdown.
Can't use this as an explanation really, as it most certainly was NOT built into the BB suit.
Heinz Ward is the dirtiest player in NFL history. I wouldn't be surprised if he was working for Bane.
Salvor.Hardin
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Don't think I'll ever forgive Nolan for that. Nolan was doing the proverbial stabbing, not Talia.
Bane was incredible.
ryutaro's mama
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Hey, speaking of Hugo Strange, wasn't he rumored at one point to be in TDKR?
Inferno313
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You could make the argument that he must've added it in the year between BB and TDK. But it'd be a weak argument.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I loved Selina and Bruce's relationship in this movie. Was adorable in a hilarious cruel way.
"I'm sorry you lost all your money."
"No you're not!"
"You wouldn't hit a woman like I wouldn't hit a cripple."
*hits a cripple*
Their interactions had me in stitches.
"I'm sorry you lost all your money."
"No you're not!"
"You wouldn't hit a woman like I wouldn't hit a cripple."
*hits a cripple*
Their interactions had me in stitches.
layzie1989
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If they're going to have a Justice League a la The Avengers I really hope they reboot batman last as the final piece needed. If Snyder's Man of Steel is any indication the DC movies are going to have a way more serious tone than the Marvel universe.
Not sure......but I recall Black Mask/Roman Sionis was rumored to be in TDK back when they were originally talking about Bruce having a new business enemy in addition to a new enemy for Batman.
ryutaro's mama
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Correct, the voice synthesizer is built into the cowl.
Bane was just spitting hot fire all movie. Spending years in the mountains building up his army, honing his fighting skills, and writing awesome one liners.
King of the Potato People
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This film was great although Talia was a crappy excuse for the true villain (looks aside)
The Batmans break scene was uncomfortable to watch (and awesome)
Ill have to go with TDK > BB > TDKR for now.
The Batmans break scene was uncomfortable to watch (and awesome)
Ill have to go with TDK > BB > TDKR for now.
They certainly had more chemisty than Bruce and Miranda.
I remember some pages ago people were saying THAT relationship made more sense than Bruce/Selina. Why is that again?
Ninja Scooter
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We're talking about a universe where Superman puts on GLASSES and people can't recognize him. Have a little perspective. It might be Nolan's grittier, more realistic comic book universe, but it's still a comic book universe. You have to suspend a little bit of disbelief. Some of the nit picking about stuff like that is pretty ridiculous.
I wouldn't want a CGI villan like Clayface (or croc)
I just think a villan such as Black Mask or Hush or Hugo Strange is more suited to a big screen live action film than Freeze or Poison Ivy. For me, they are more suited to animations and would be harder to do live action.
But I might be wrong, and I would LOVE to see it
BertramCooper
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ryutaro's mama
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You can't be that menacing and not have mic skills.
He knew he had to be over from the start.
Ninja Scooter
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They probably would have wanted Batman to clearly bail out of the nuke blast at the last second, a scene where a CG Joker quietly escapes Blackgate, JGL coming to help Batman beat Bane wearing a costume Alfred secretly made for him, and after the credits Samuel L. Jackson comes to talk to Bruce about the top secret "Justice League" project. In other words, Marvel's Dark Knight Rises.
I wouldn't want a CGI villan like Clayface (or croc)
I just think a villan such as Black Mask or Hush or Hugo Strange is more suited to a big screen live action film than Freeze or Poison Ivy. For me, they are more suited to animations and would be harder to do live action.
But I might be wrong, and I would LOVE to see it
Lizard in TASM has scared me off Croc for a while but even though Sandman fucking sucked for the most part, the first time he attacks New York looks great and I think Clayface could do the same thing.
Except you can since BB was the first film and Batman was still learning. He also couldn't turn his head in that suit. TDK focused on how he was constantly adapting, including adding the new neck piece in the beginning. It's entirely feasible that he added some voice masker between the end of BB and the beginning of TDK.
Biggest logic gripe from me was the fact that the auto-pilot for his craft somehow doubled as a blocking device and was the only viable option for blocking the signal to the bomb? Wth? Seemed a little too convenient, especially when it was exposed that Batman would have to kill himself due to the lack of auto-pilot.
Bane can fight, looks huge, and has great mic skills. AND he has a gimmick with a mask. MERCHANDISE
Vince just had like 18 orgasms.
blainethemono
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I don't remember that ever being mentioned in the movies. When did that happen?
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