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couldnt robin just be Azreal? I doubt a guy with the first name Robin is going to call himself Robin. Azreal just makes more sense to me. You know they are going to make more. Maybe they can even convince Nolan to keep going.
 
There were the 2 Thugs that brought Gordon before Bane. Choked one by grabbing his throat, then telling the other to search Gordon, then he'll kill him (To me, he's talking to the thug "I'm going to kill you").

Plus the whole: Shoulder pat "Follow him" BOOM exchange
 
Didn't really like the opening. Felt too much like TDK's intro. This super villain is incredibly smart! He will give Batman a run for his money!

In the end Bane probably didn't orchestrate any of it on it's own either. Just like the significance of Bruce making the leap, it just disappears when Talia is revealed.
 
Anne Hathaway was terrific.

I had a good feeling that she was going to be great in her role once she was officially announced (despite the doubts of some people), and I'm glad she succeeded.
 
Blizzard said:
what happened to Joker in the last movie? Was he just put in jail once he was caught again? So does that mean he escaped when they released all the prisoners this time?
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Batman says something about Joker being in "a padded cell"...
which, I assume, is Arkham Asylum.

Bane breaks everyone out of Blackgate Prison.

JOKER IS STILL IN ARKHAM ASYLUM...

and that is why he is not in this movie.

<bow>... thank you, everybody
 
low-G said:
Because they build up this huge emotional climax and then like a cartoon 'no, Batman didn't die after all, lol'. Also, it'd show something about the Batman character, that he was willing to die for the order & peace he believed in, but 'nope invincible superhero, you don't even need that 'everyone can be batman' thing, not even important, only one batman bitches!'
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Batman is willing to die for Gotham, that is made clear in Begins. He doesn't need to die to prove his point. If he can accomplish what he is set out to do, without sacrificing himself, why should he die then? I don't understand why you insist that he must die for in order to complete his character arc. Reminds me of irreconcilable MGS fanboys who wanted Snake to die in MGS4 no matter what just for the sake of poetry or whatever the fuck.
 
gatti-man said:
couldnt robin just be Azreal? I doubt a guy with the first name Robin is going to call himself Robin. Azreal just makes more sense to me. You know they are going to make more. Maybe they can even convince Nolan to keep going.
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It doesn't matter what he calls himself because WB isn't handing the franchise over to JGL playing a non-Batman. This movie is about to make tons of cash. Batman is the single biggest comic book character in the world. They aren't going to make the next Batman movie w/o Batman. They'll reboot it in a few years with a new cast and director.
 
Spring-Loaded said:
I still think they shouldn't have shown Bruce's face at the end. Just have Alfred look at the camera, smile, nod and then leave.
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What about Selina? It also gave us a sense of completion for her character cause it showed that the Clean-Slate worked, and she chose to live with Bruce.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
But Nolan knew he didn't even have to think this far ahead because he's done with Batman. That's why the Robin thing was just a nice little send off. He was probably having fun with the fans who wanted him to include Robin, and with the fact that he and Bale have always been adamant that there would never be a Robin in the Nolan-verse. I doubt Nolan gives a shit about whether Blake would become Batman 2.0, or Nightwing, or whatever else.

Yeah because it would make a lot more sense for a police officer to be using a fake name for no apparent reason this whole time. That would have been a lot less dumb, you are right!
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BeautifulMemory said:
Exactly. This movie is the end. It was a simple nod to the fans
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Agreed! I was just extrapolating, and that's fun in its own right. I think a Nightwing would make more sense in that universe than a Robin would.

Also, thank goodness they did not focus on Bane's brute strength. All I remember from his appearances in the games and animated series is that he's supposed to be smart, but all he does is smash.

In this interpretation we know he's a huge, imposing, physically powerful man, but he's more than that; he's cruel, intelligent, and ruthless. Fuck, in this interpretation he's a goddamn ninja, too.
 
Tekniqs said:
wait...does Batman have the "no killing" rule in the comics as well?

cuz I remember in a comic strip people link on here of him beating the living shit out of Superman saying something in the line of Supes not being able to do what is necessary
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Batman only kills in the movie


That line in the comic strip sounds like the Dark Knight Returns where Batman is like 80 and even then I think the line is taken out of context. Dont remember if he means killing people
 
Spring-Loaded said:
I still think they shouldn't have shown Bruce's face at the end. Just have Alfred look at the camera, smile, nod and then leave.
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I thought it was going there and personally I would have thought it was pretty awesome--but it's a little too close to Inception, I think. And it would be ambiguity for ambiguity's sake, ultimately. Kinda weird that he directly faced the camera there, though.


shagg_187 said:
More better, they should've shown Catwoman in that chair and the back of Bruce, and right before he turns his head, end of scene.
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Again, he basically just ended a movie like that.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
It doesn't matter what he calls himself because WB isn't handing the franchise over to JGL playing a non-Batman. This movie is about to make tons of cash. Batman is the single biggest comic book character in the world. They aren't going to make the next Batman movie w/o Batman. They'll reboot it in a few years with a new cast and director.
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Who says they can't have two series? Marvel has shown there is a market for universe sharing hero movies.


jaekwon15 said:
Night Wing?
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sorry don't know who that is. I haven't read comics for 14 years.
 
-Pyromaniac- said:
but seeing Cane happy, and seeing Bruce with Selina....it made me have the biggest smile in the world.
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Yeah, I liked that they got together and I wouldn't know how to succinctly show/hint at Selina and Bruce getting together without just showing her, but I still think it would've been more emotional with the hint.

Maybe Alfred bumps into Selina one his way to his table and you only see part of her face, Alfred doesn't see her face at all, then you see Alfred smile.

But yeah
 
The thing to me, with Bruce at the end, was to reinforce that Bruce and Alfred were alright with each other. The last time they were on screen together, was when Alfred dropped the letter bomb on Bruce and left. That would still be the last time they were on screen together, if the ending was just "Alfred looking off screen and nodding."
 
P.S. I think it's good that Bruce survived.

Almost every Batman story focuses on his tragedy, and how it almost always ends badly for him. Even Batman Beyond is kind of sad; he's all alone except his successor, and he dies still a largely alienated, brilliant, bitter, justice-seeking man.

This is an entirely different sort of ending for Batman that I've ever heard of. He gets the girl, has a well-equipped successor, has largely helped the people of Gotham solve their crime problems, and now lives as his own man, free of his past, of Gotham, of the cape and cowl.

A happy ending in a blockbuster movie is a subversion! Who would have thought.
 
Totakeke said:
If Nolan did that, we would have another 50 pages of people arguing whether that was Bruce or not.



Thank god he didn't.
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Exactly. The audience of Inception is completely different than TDKR. Besides, this sort of ambiguity in a comic book movie wouldn't really gel.

If anything, you folks should be complaining about the probability of Wayne, Selina and Alfred all meeting at the same spot in Italy randomly.
 
gatti-man said:
sorry don't know who that is. I haven't read comics for 14 years.
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The first Robin grows up and becomes Nightwing.

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SouthernDragon said:
P.S. I think it's good that Bruce survived.

Almost every Batman story focuses on his tragedy, and how it almost always ends badly for him. Even Batman Beyond is kind of sad; he's all alone except his successor, and he dies still a largely alienated, brilliant, bitter, justice-seeking man.

This is an entirely different sort of ending for Batman that I've ever heard of. He gets the girl, has a well-equipped successor, has largely helped the people of Gotham solve their crime problems, and now lives as his own man, free of his past, of Gotham, of the cape and cowl.

A happy ending in a blockbuster movie is a subversion! Who would have thought.
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Thank you

felt the exact same way
 
Varna said:
Didn't really like the opening. Felt too much like TDK's intro. This super villain is incredibly smart! He will give Batman a run for his money
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Yeah, it's called a character introduction. I'm not sure what point you've made other than yeah, it's like TDK's opening.
 
RustyNails said:
Exactly. The audience of Inception is completely different than TDKR. Besides, this sort of ambiguity in a comic book movie wouldn't really gel.

If anything, you folks should be complaining about the probability of Wayne, Selina and Alfred all meeting at the same spot in Italy randomly.
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Wayne gave Selina his mother's pearl necklace was that definitely was not random, they were shacking up.

As for Alfred, well, either Bruce tracked him down based on his story or he was there everyday waiting for him to show up like someone else said :lol
 
RustyNails said:
Exactly. The audience of Inception is completely different than TDKR. Besides, this sort of ambiguity in a comic book movie wouldn't really gel.

If anything, you folks should be complaining about the probability of Wayne, Selina and Alfred all meeting at the same spot in Italy randomly.
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In The Dark Knight, Bruce and Alfred have an exchange like:

"Do you have me followed?"

"If you ever took a vacation, I might"

I assume Bruce knows where Alfred is heading and just plans to be there at that time.

Absolutely not random.
 
RustyNails said:
Exactly. The audience of Inception is completely different than TDKR. Besides, this sort of ambiguity in a comic book movie wouldn't really gel.

If anything, you folks should be complaining about the probability of Wayne, Selina and Alfred all meeting at the same spot in Italy randomly.
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Alfred told Bruce exactly what he did for 8 years; going to Florence on vacation, hoping to see Bruce with a new woman, happy and safe at last.

It wasn't hard for Bruce to arrange for that to happen.
 
gatti-man said:
couldnt robin just be Azreal? I doubt a guy with the first name Robin is going to call himself Robin. Azreal just makes more sense to me. You know they are going to make more. Maybe they can even convince Nolan to keep going.
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Nobody knows azrael, the name Robin is more icing on the cake since we know Blake will assume the mantle. This is the last of the trilogy.
 
Great movie. Definitely the best this year so far. I'll most likely catch flak for this, but I think Bane is a better villain in the movies than the Joker. But in all honesty to me, it's like choosing between a Ferrarii and a Lambo. They're both AWESOME!
 
SouthernDragon said:
P.S. I think it's good that Bruce survived.

Almost every Batman story focuses on his tragedy, and how it almost always ends badly for him. Even Batman Beyond is kind of sad; he's all alone except his successor, and he dies still a largely alienated, brilliant, bitter, justice-seeking man.

This is an entirely different sort of ending for Batman that I've ever heard of. He gets the girl, has a well-equipped successor, has largely helped the people of Gotham solve their crime problems, and now lives as his own man, free of his past, of Gotham, of the cape and cowl.

A happy ending in a blockbuster movie is a subversion! Who would have thought.
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this.
Was a fitting end to this movie as well as giving a unique ending for Batman, who in almost no continuity has a happy ending.

Only happy ending Bruce ever had that I can think of was JLU/Beyond spoilers!
finding out Terry is actually his son.
 
this.
Was a fitting end to this movie as well as giving a unique ending for Batman, who in almost no continuity has a happy ending.

Only happy ending Bruce ever had that I can think of was finding out Terry is actually his son.
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Even in that I felt sad. :(
 
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