Even though someone said it would be too brutal for Bruce, and I agree, it would have been fucking great to see Bane getting the upper hand and then a tube comes out when Bats gets a shot in, and he just keeps taking out the tubes and Bane is fucking crumbling. Maybe don't rip his mask off but just destroy his mask.
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Even though someone said it would be too brutal for Bruce, and I agree, it would have been fucking great to see Bane getting the upper hand and then a tube comes out when Bats gets a shot in, and he just keeps taking out the tubes and Bane is fucking crumbling. Maybe don't rip his mask off but just destroy his mask.
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Ninja Scooter
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endure.
The Lazarus Pit or Prison in TDKR had a different meaning.
Through hard work and determination Bruce rose from the pit. Healed.
It was so unbelievable that Bane himself couldn't believe it.
Batman purposely let Ra's win the fight (Or did he?) to not save the train they were on. Ra's didn't mind his surroundings and died.
CrocMother
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His second fight with Bane was completely personal. He didn't need to seek him out the way he did and with the bomb ticking it was actually kind of irrational. It revealed a part of Bruce's personality that had been alluded to earlier in the film, that he was looking for a fight . The first fight with Bane left him totally unprepared, and forcing him to fight Bane in a fist-fight. He tried to use his gadget that knocked out the lights but it didn't work against Bane, because he is a badass.
The real strategy behind the plot that stopped the bomb was worked out by Gordon and Blake, showing that Bruce Wayne doesn't need to be the one that does everything.
Bruce Wayne didn't want to be Batman anymore. The beginning of the movie makes that pretty clear. He came back because he had to. Therefore, some of his actions were a bit more aggressive than is normal for Batman.
It's not even a plan he was able to come up with on his own. He had to be told by the prisoner that Bane needs to wear the mask to breathe.
Worlds greatest detective, ladies and gentleman.
Because Catwoman shot Bane with motorcycle missiles.
The "heal himself and his mind" aspects were well done. One of the reasons I don't love Dark Knight (though it's really damn good) is that the Bruce/Batman character isn't well developed. In Begins and Rises, you understand his struggles, realize that he's just a man, and that helped draw me in.
So, healing his mental and physical anguish were great.
But the fights with Bane were the same "tough buff dudes punching" fights in every action movie. I expect more from Nolan.
The social commentary in BB and TDK is overstated to begin with. And this has the pretty glaring class stuff.
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Yeah but he had beaten Bane by that point, he didn't count on Miranda betraying him. That was an unpredictable variable
I feel like Bruce was actually kinda conflicted about it. From the arguments with Alfred and the fact that there's a rebuilt bat-cave, I have a feeling that Bruce went down there pretty often to check on police related stuff. He probably considered trying to get back out there a few times before the film, but didn't because he either felt he really wasn't needed or ready or Alfred talked him out of it.
He had time to plan though... For five months. A few minutes in Nolan time.
Angry Fork
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I really hope Nolan goes back to small scale stuff after this. I've enjoyed his run at blockbuster now I want to see another Following or Memento.
Was better than Joker.
Was better than Joker.
rocksolidaudio
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this is super random, but my brother was going crazy after recognizing the cop on the bridge who wouldn't let Jo-Gord Lev step forward (with the megaphone who eventually gave the order to blow it), but couldn't pinpoint where he knew him from. anyone know who he is? (IMDB didn't help.)
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I'm doubtful although it would be great. I also still think Inception is his best film (come at me)
rocksolidaudio said:
You might recognise him as Bunny Colvin from The Wire (edit: Oh shit, sorry that was the army guy, didn't read your sentence fully. But yeah he's in it too. And Carcetti would you believe)
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I can see that. It's a good argument.
triplestation
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Marion Cotillard is beautiful. But her acting is not good. Anybody feel the same?
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I like to think that the first two movies had more time passing and didn't elaborate on batman being batman more often. Like they skipped over him just out cleaning up Gotham for months. So he very well coulda did major toll to his body. Like an NFL running back or something. He just pounds on people every night.
I think though that there coulda probably been a third 'batman in his prime" movie before this one though. I feel like tdk he was getting there but not full out mastery of his craft.
That's probably gonna be my only complaint of nolans batman. A middle movie against one of the villains where he is just balls out batman peak physical and emotional condition taking it to Gotham. Then have some time pass and go against bane. Like instead of being out 8 years make it 4 or something.
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My friend was blabbering about some tv cameos. Tealq from stargate and one of the guys from dexter were in it. The creepy assistant was in Torchwood aswell apparently
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Detective from Dexter.
Angry Fork
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Her death scene was pretty bad.
Quinn from Dexter. The actor was playing yet another douchebag cop.
EDIT: Beaten
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This film made me want to read the Bane comic saga again. Catwoman winds up siding with him in that, too, at least briefly.
The breaking was epic as heck in that.
The breaking was epic as heck in that.
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I had no problem with her in Inception. She was fine in this movie until the chase scene and subsequent terri-bad death scene.
She is clearly not an action star in any way.
triplestation
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Oh god yes it was. xD
that's an understatement. I've seen better deathscenes in DIY-pornfilms.
Well she LOOKED like Talia. I'll give her that.
Lol, that's a good one.
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I just back from a second viewing. I am more forgiving of her death scene.
I think she was playing it like the villian who is so elated that thier plan is going to work it did not matter that she was dying. She felt triumphant for her dad and herself. She even has that manical expression, and she could not die untill she gloated her triumph, thus the head slump.
If I could request one correction, get rid of the awful reaction shot of those watching her.
She was great in Inception.
And honestly I didn't have a problem with her in TDKR, save the "sigh" she makes when she dies.
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Nope. See La Vie en Rose.
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Yeah my wife laughed at that point in the movie.
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I agree. He always seems to be scrambling and one step behind the villains.
Would have liked to see a moment for Batman like Joker had in Dark Knight when he was in jail. A moment not even the audience saw coming, a stroke of brilliance.
Nolan's batman is highly trained, highly equipped but doesn't have a real sharp edge intelligently. There were some moments where his intellect shines through, like the first scene between him and catwoman. But it's minor stuff.
I like to think that I am the authority on what I feel, and I can tell you that I felt exactly the former description. I was watching Bruce heal from a broken individual to a happy one.
Your going to have to describe this in greater detail, because I have no idea what you're talking about. It was all clearly building up Talia's reveal, and her reflection of as a character in Bruce, and Bruce himself growing how to let go of Batman, and with how Robin was set up to take the mantel and everything.
Rewatching the fights, it didn't look like an accident.
First fight, he's just punching him with his fists over and over.
Second fight, he's going out of his ways to use his gauntlets around his face until he finally slashed one of the tubes.
The was Nolan handled Two Face was disappointing. First, it was way too gruesome for the series, considering most of the violence in the film is bloodless. Second, he should have died of infection once he left the hospital. They should have just left the acid scarring origin in, considering that acid attacks do happen in real life.
No, unless getting a shotgun pulled to your face is part of the plan?
Anyone think Talia seemed sort of underwhelming in the looks department in DKR? I remember being blow away by her beauty in Inception, but never really thought that in DKR.
and probably not thinking this through enough.... but why didn't Talia/Bane just set the nuke off right when they got it? What was the point in waiting so long (5 months or so)?
and probably not thinking this through enough.... but why didn't Talia/Bane just set the nuke off right when they got it? What was the point in waiting so long (5 months or so)?
If we're going this far, we should have never even had TDK in the first place. Batman would have died 30 mins into Begins with real life logic.
For me the best part of the film was Bruce needing to do the jump without the rope. I like that message...the rope was holding him back and stopped him from giving it his all.
I felt the action wasn't as good as the prior two movies. But it was still a more than worthy ending to the trilogy. I loved it.
I felt the action wasn't as good as the prior two movies. But it was still a more than worthy ending to the trilogy. I loved it.
CrocMother
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Remember the speech by Bain at the prison?
They wanted to give the city hope. They also wanted it to tear itself apart. I don't think just blowing it up would have accomplished what they were going for. They wanted to show the world Gotham's disgusting true nature.
Think of Ra's plan in the first movie. This plan is similar in spirit.
The League of Shadows sees itself as a force of good. A necessary balance. They want to improve mankind, and just abruptly killing everyone in Gotham wouldn't have accomplished this because than the world wouldn't learn a lesson.
Just my interpretation.
They wanted Bruce and Batman to suffer more and watch while Gotham destroys itself from the inside too. "Your punishment must be more severe"
Because they wanted to give the people of Gotham hope, that they could actually survive this occupation. The people had no idea that the bomb was deteriorating and would eventually explode.
Bane was torturing them, basically. Turning Gotham City into the prison he and Talia came from.
He jumped out before and let the autopilot do its work.
They wanted to carry out the LoS's plan of destroying gotham, but Talia wanted vengeance for her fathers death so they tried to make bruce watch gotham crumble for as long as possible, not expecting him to rise from the pit before the 5 months had ended.
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Yeah, death scene was laughably terrible. It's like she didn't really die and was just faking hear death with a funny face lol.
Marion is gorgeous in TDKR. Dat rain scene.
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