How long was it Bruce becomes healed from a broken back? It felt like a week.
HE DIDN'T HAVE A BROKEN BACK
How long was it Bruce becomes healed from a broken back? It felt like a week.
When you think about it...the "nuke the city" plan is completely out of line with the league's methods. They're supposed to be working in the, hah, shadows. IIRC they're setting up Crane as a fall guy in BB. In TDKR Bane just marches into the city and says "yeah, I'm going to nuke everyone"
How else would you destroy all of Gotham in one go?
Spot-on comment from Ebert. Fix the pacing and editing problems and this would become a pretty good movie but it really didn't feel like a Batman movie.The result, in Christopher Nolan's conclusion to his Batman trilogy, is an ambitious superhero movie with two surprises: It isn't very much fun, and it doesn't have very much Batman. I'm thinking of the over-the-top action sequences of the earlier films that had a subcurrent of humor, and the exhilarating performance of Heath Ledger as the Joker. This movie is all serious drama, with a villain named Bane whose Hannibal Lecterish face-muzzle robs him of personality. And although we see a good deal of Bruce Wayne, his alter-ego Batman makes only a few brief appearances before the all-out climax.
Do you want something like Ang Lee's Hulk?
When you started saying a nuke is more comical than a microwave emitter, come on now?
Like I said a few pages ago, disagreement seems to usually come with "well what DID you want, an army of tangerines burning down Gotham just to find a ruby!?!?!"
No. I wouldn't want anything stupid, which is why I didn't like it, because I felt like it was a dumb, cheap and easy direction to go in.
I wish you'd explain yourself better. The way your saying it can be said of virtually any movie. "A clockwork orange was dumb. The way it ended was a dumb, cheap, easy direction to go in". How could you prove me wrong when I'm not supporting my statements with anything?
Can someone whose favorite movie of the trilogy is Batman Begins explain to me what they liked so much about it, or why they liked it more than TDK or TDKR? I love the movie, but I feel like it gets far too much love here
Noob question: Harvey Dent is still alive, right? Why didn't we see him in TDKR at all?
I just realized... The Dark Knight Manual? That's essentially Blake's starter guide to all of Bruce's equipment and the events that led him to this point. It's not like he's starting completely blind.
I was fine with the ending except for the fact that his name was actually "Robin." Absolutely stupid. If she had just called him Mr. Grayson or something I would have been okay with it.
This one, I believe:
So you're saying I could be Batman?
I was fine with the ending except for the fact that his name was actually "Robin." Absolutely stupid. If she had just called him Mr. Grayson or something I would have been okay with it.
anyone could be the batman.So you're saying I could be Batman?
So you're saying I could be Batman?
She should've stopped after telling him she liked his real name better and leave it to the people in the audience who aren't morons to make some guesses. This movie was terrible with beting you over the head with things anyone with a brain could've put together.
No, I've explained pretty well why I thought it was dumb. What else can I say about it? I didn't like the nuclear bomb plot. I think it's overdone and I think they could have come up with something vastly more interesting and creative. I thought it felt out of place and I thought Batman flying it away from the city with a big nuclear explosion was jumping the shark.
Also... I'm not trying to prove you or anyone wrong. How can I do that? Discussions aren't about proving anyone wrong, they're about expressing personal viewpoints. All I'm doing is trying to explain why I personally didn't like it.
I'm still unclear as to why the Ghuls hate Gotham so much. I only saw Begins once since I hated it so I've forgotten most of the movie outside of the stuff I disliked.
I must be the only one interpreting the ending differently than the "Blake/Robin becomes the next Batman" theory. Yes, I know Wayne's appearance with Catwoman at the cafe, not to mention Batman's faked death, implies that he's hanging it up.
But I don't get the conclusion that just because Batman invited Robin to a new/different batcave that he's passing the suit/persona onto a new generation. Instead, I think Nolan set up another film/future where both he and Robin fight crime together.
I mean, why fix the bat signal for Gordon if you're not coming back?
The final 40 or so minutes of the movie was incredible.
Except one part.
I absolutely think it's pure bullshit that Bruce Wayne lived. That completely ruins that amazing Michael Caine speech. Fucking pissed me off.
She should've stopped after telling him she liked his real name better and leave it to the people in the audience who aren't morons to make some guesses. This movie was terrible with beating you over the head with things anyone with a brain could've put together.
Overall atmosphere and depiction of Gotham, Batman fighting crime lords and thugs instead of terrorists, I liked the insanity gas plot a lot more then anything Bane did (although Joker's crime spree still tops it) and I loved Crane's performance. I hesitate to give it points for being a fantastic origin story as well since the other two movies can't exactly compete on that front. If I had to sum up my complaints with TDK and TDKR I'd say that they felt too grounded in too many ways, especially TDKR. Dropping Batman into a contemporary action movie does not make it a Batman movie
i just wish we could've had Batman punching a shark.
The final 40 or so minutes of the movie was incredible. The rest was pretty good, with a few great moments.
I also thought Bane was a much better villain than The Joker.
Except one part.
I absolutely think it's pure bullshit that Bruce Wayne lived. That completely ruins that amazing Michael Caine speech. Fucking pissed me off.
The final 40 or so minutes of the movie was incredible. The rest was pretty good, with a few great moments.
I also thought Bane was a much better villain than The Joker.
I absolutely loathed one part.
I absolutely think it's pure bullshit that Bruce Wayne lived. That completely ruins that amazing Michael Caine speech. Fucking pissed me off.
The brawl with the cops and robbers was pretty bad when you look at the people fighting. These couldn't be real stunt men because it was some pretty horrible fake fighting.
Oh god yes: "You have the clean slate program?" "You mean the program that you put your name and birthday into and it wipes you from all records?"
If he died, then it would've conflicted with what he learned in Prison and with Alfred wanting a better life for him. It would've been a lesser ending if he did die.
You haven't played Arkham City?!i just wish we could've had Batman punching a shark.
I understand your earlier statement about not feeling obligated to come up with ideas yourself, but I don't think you should make those kind of statements if your going to take that philosophy. If you admit you don't know anything about writing and cannot pull an idea for it yourself, how are you convinced that other people can? It's like saying "I'm no scientist, but I know for a fact that there is no reason that they couldn't have invented time travel yet!"
And, humor me please, just repeat what your explanation for why it was dumb was, because I apparently missed it.
Do yourself a favor and never look at the extras in big battle scenes.
Gangs of New York's battle scene was ruined for me.
Yeah...I wish I didn't pay attention too closely, but the overhead shot when they first clashed was awful. Whoever I was watching on the baddies side just ran past a bunch of cops with a fist raised, stopped in the middle and kept spinning in circles like he was chasing his tail. That scene did not start well....thankfully the actual Batman/Bane fight was badass.The brawl with the cops and robbers was pretty bad when you look at the people fighting. These couldn't be real stunt men because it was some pretty horrible fake fighting.
Mrmm...I guess I can see your point here.But the problem is that the absolute majority of the movie goers wouldn't get that. Not everyone in the theater has seen BB and TDK as many times as we have, and some of them may not have even seen one or either of those at all.
I understand that WB is busy with other things this weekend, but it's insane that the ending has been up on Youtube for 2 whole days, with no intent to even hide it with subversive titles. Nope, a video straight up called THE DARK KNIGHT RISES ENDING has been up for 48 hours :lol
Anyways, lets RISE together!
Do yourself a favor and never look at the extras in big battle scenes.
Gangs of New York's battle scene was ruined for me.
LOTR becomes a comedy too.Do yourself a favor and never look at the extras in big battle scenes.
Gangs of New York's battle scene was ruined for me.
But it also continues the trend of filmmakers being too wimpy to kill of major characters.
Alfred got what he deserved for doubting Bruce.