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So uh, did Bane die? They didn't really confirm that.

I can't imagine that even Bane can survive what is essentially a tank cannon.

That didn't even matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, Batman did beat him. Selina pulled the trigger, but Batman got the upper-hand in the fight. I didn't like the execution and out of nowhere, randomness to it.

It was hardly random. Catwoman was shown hesitating when she was suppose to be leaving through the tunnel. She was struggling with coming to her decision to abandon Gotham. I guess they could have shown her riding back, but that would have been way too on the nose and predictable. Bane's dead is suppose to be somewhat unexpected, but it's certainly not random.
 
Also awesome line:

"so that's what that feels like"

I laughed at this and... I was the only one that did in the entire theater. It was awkward, but at least I actually understood it apparently over everyone else.

Or maybe it was just stupid. I honestly have no idea.

It was hardly random. Catwoman was shown hesitating when she was suppose to be leaving through the tunnel. She was struggling with coming to her decision to abandon Gotham. I guess they could have shown her riding back, but that would have been way too on the nose and predictable. Bane's dead is suppose to be somewhat unexpected, but it's certainly not random.

I felt it completely undermined his presence in the film and was a horribly executed way to dispose of the villain. Maybe it looked good on paper, I have no idea. I could say the same about Talia too, and her death was arguably even worse.
 
That didn't even matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, Batman did beat him. Selina pulled the trigger, but Batman got the upper-hand in the fight. I didn't like the execution and out of nowhere, randomness to it.

My friends were like 'Is that it? Bane's dead?' It was so quick and sudden for such an epic, badass villian.
 
I loved the way they handled Bane's death. The battle was over once Talia stabbed Batman. I didn't see any need to drag that conflict out any further.

I guess the actual dispatching of him was very Joss Whedon-esque but I dug it.
 
I laughed at this and... I was the only one that did in the entire theater. It was awkward, but at least I actually understood it apparently over everyone else.

Or maybe it was just stupid. I honestly have no idea.
in my theatre it wasn't outright laughing that took place but sort of like chuckles and inner lols. Everyone seemed to find it funny.
 
I laughed at this and... I was the only one that did in the entire theater. It was awkward, but at least I actually understood it apparently over everyone else.

Or maybe it was just stupid. I honestly have no idea.

Everyone at my theater laughed. But I also heard cheers when Miranda revealed that her name was Talia, so it was a die-hard crowd.
 
I'm hearing the same complaints from the guys that wanted a slow mo shootout at the end of no country. Batman beat Bane's ass and but the fear of God in him. No need for a more gratuitous killing.

But I kinda like the similarity between their deaths. Batman was side-swiped by a woman he trusted once, and so was Bane.
 
Anti-climactic, out of nowhere, not fulfilling-- in fact I've seen people flat out not even realize that he had a death scene at all. I'd chalk that up more to ignorance, sure, but it happened so fast and randomly that I almost can't entirely blame them.

For a big badass, tough villain like Bane you expect a better send-off. Or at least I do. Perhaps I'm more old-fashioned though when it comes to good villain deaths.

Agreed on the ignorance part, but I think it served a purpose in redeeming Selina, ensuring that this fucking villainous bastard got dealt with in a manner befitting of him. He's a fantastic character but a deplorable one, he deserves an undignified death. It also gave us him resorting to a shotgun because he was unable to beat Bats, and that cool send off line. I liked it but we'll agree to disagree.

The court scenes were great but would have been a better fit with Joker. I'm sure it would have been him too, were it possible.

Seems too clownish for this version of Joker really. Can't see him sitting back like that.

How long was it Bruce becomes healed from a broken back? It felt like a week.

It was five months, plus they never said it was broken. If you're going to chastise the film least you can do is listen to it.
 
Everyone at my theater laughed. But I also heard cheers when Miranda revealed that her name was Talia, so it was a die-hard crowd.

Yeah. No one made a sound during my screening and it was jam-packed. I felt that was very bizarre. At the end during the numerous twists I kept being more surprised that no one seemed to care.
 
Yeah. No one made a sound during my screening and it was jam-packed. I felt that was very bizarre. At the end during the numerous twists I kept being more surprised that no one seemed to care.
in my theatre there were a whole bunch of people who never even seen batman begins, lol. Like a lot.
 
It was five months, plus they never said it was broken. If you're going to chastise the film least you can do is listen to it.
Fell about four feet back straight into Bane's armored knee. Dude in the prison has to put his vertebrae back into his back. Surely his back is fine, just a scratch.
 
I felt it completely undermined his presence in the film and was a horribly executed way to dispose of the villain. Maybe it looked good on paper, I have no idea. I could say the same about Talia too, and her death was arguably even worse.

...because he could not take tank fire?

Like I said, it felt perfect for me. Fanfare would be nice, I guess, but it's far from necessary.

Talia's death is more because we haven't had as much of a chance to know her. But she died convinced she has had her vengeance. She was happy. Tell me, what did you expect, exactly, for her to take out a gun and start blasting everyone Scarface style?
 
I laughed at this and... I was the only one that did in the entire theater. It was awkward, but at least I actually understood it apparently over everyone else.

Or maybe it was just stupid. I honestly have no idea.

Most people laughed at that line where I was.

However when the cops says "I keep my money in my matress!" I laughed a little and no one else did, that was awkward.
 
Fell about four feet back straight into Bane's armored knee. Dude in the prison has to put his vertebrae back into his back. Surely his back is fine, just a scratch.

Thats true, when I hit my head off something its either barely hurt or my brain has exploded. One of the two.
 
I think it would have been a much better movie with Catwoman and Talia. Nothing Catwoman did was THAT relevant other than setting up the first Bane showdown. Without her or Talia we could have had Blake assume the catwoman role at the end of the film, without killing Bane of course, and it would have better set up the successor reveal at the end. Also, without Cat or Talia there wouldnt have been the Daggert storyline which was irrelevant with no Talia reveal. I feel Bruce / Bane battle for the trigger would have been better than the lame way he and Talia went out. Nothing against those actresses, they did a fine job, but I could have done without.
 
Fell about four feet back straight into Bane's armored knee. Dude in the prison has to put his vertebrae back into his back. Surely his back is fine, just a scratch.

He was in recovery for like 3 of those months. He could only start seriously training after that for 2 more. That is the point of a montage you know, to condense a long period of time into a small one, so we don't have to spend an extra hour of the movie watching Bruce SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY getting better. I didn't think it was that unbelievable, given the other stuff that has happened in this series.
 
Tell me, what did you expect, exactly, for her to take out a gun and start blasting everyone Scarface style?

No. But something would have sufficed.

Anyway I hate it when people counter opinions with "well what would YOU have done, had Loki come riding in on the Silver Surfer's board and threw the Tesseract down at her FACE?" No. Of course not. Nothing silly, but something memorable. Something interesting. Something worth talking about. I'm not the writer so it's not up to me, but I can still criticize it.

I can't imagine anyone is going to come away talking about how great Bane's death was, or how wonderfully they handled and killed Talia at the end.
 
That's the thing that confused me...

*Shoots through a thick layer of cars in one shot*

*Hits a dude point blank*

Do you think he lived?

People still doubted Dent was dead. What do we need a shot of them physically putting his coffin in the ground? laminated death certificates handed out in the cinema?
 
Overall, this movie was the weakest of thrilogy for me. Very slow first half, and I hated the ending. Also, why in the hell does Bane sound like Deckard Cain? For a few seconds I thought he was going to say "Stay a while and listen."

Catwoman was so HOT though.
 
I find it hard to be bothered by the stuff about the vertebrae and his knee considering this is the same franchise that had injuries as crazy and outlandish as two-face's.
 
Also Robin apparently a superhuman. Any lesser human being would have been laid out until paramedics arrived after an explosion just a foot or two away.


I find it hard to be bothered by the stuff about the vertebrae and his knee considering this is the same franchise that had injuries as crazy and outlandish as two-face's.

Two-Face injury is miles more feasible. He was a freak burn victim. And it helped that he was killed off soon after because any time after that I'd have worried about further infections. But at least he got proper medical treatment. Batman having broken his back like that to ~*~*rise~*~* and fight again inside an isolated pit seemed totally off. I wasn't convinced with his struggle.
 
I agree Talia's death wasn't fantastically done. Cotillard is a superb actress but she didn't pull that off very well. Half of that was down direction and script I suppose.

Can't wait to see it again tomorrow, going with my little brother so I have no one to nudge and talk to when Cotillard's tits are on screen.
 
No. But something would have sufficed.

Anyway I hate it when people counter opinions with "well what would YOU have done, had Loki come riding in on the Silver Surfer's board and threw the Tesseract down at her FACE?" No. Of course not. Nothing silly, but something memorable. Something interesting. Something worth talking about. I'm not the writer so it's not up to me, but I can still criticize it.

I can't imagine anyone is going to come away talking about how great Bane's death was, or how wonderfully they handled and killed Talia at the end.

They did handle both those characters well. Perhaps not their deaths, but I don't think that's very important when you have Catwoman's concluding character arc or Talia becoming what Bruce would be if he continued down the path he was on. Those are the interesting parts.

I didn't mean any offense when I asked what you'd do, btw. I'm still not sure what your asking for, to be honest. "something interesting" isn't exactly specific. Just a cinematically impressive visual death or do you mean something more thematic to the character, like Bane falling down into darkness or whatever?
 
I don't really get the criticism or annoyance of Batman's training to get back into the fight while he was in the pit. I thought the film did enough to suggest he was spending his time getting into enough shape to not only escape the pit but also return to the fight after it.

I guess people would have preferred an 80's training montage, right?

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Overall, this movies was the weakest of thrilogy for me. Very slow first half, and I hated the ending. How why in the hell does Bane sound like Deckard Cain? For a few seconds I thought he was going to say "Stay a while and listen."

Catwoman was so HOT though.
the ending was bad? You have no soul and you're a terrible person. NOW WHAT?!!
 
It's been asked multiple times but no one seems to have an answer:

How did people know who Miranda really was? People in this thread and the OT made it sound as if that twist was painfully obvious... Really? How?

If it was as obvious as some have stated then I must have clearly missed something.
 
Overall, this movie was the weakest of thrilogy for me. Very slow first half, and I hated the ending. How why in the hell does Bane sound like Deckard Cain? For a few seconds I thought he was going to say "Stay a while and listen."

Catwoman was so HOT though.

Haters of the ending? That's new.
 
The only thing that was silly about Talia's death was everyone standing around to listen to her death speech with the bomb ticking away.
 
The only thing that was silly about Talia's death was everyone standing around to listen to her death speech with the bomb ticking away.
I agree 100%. The shot of all 3 of those heads made me giggle inwardly. The rest was par for the course, didn't mind it. Bit of an awkward head drop by her but no biggy.

To be fair, maybe they wanted to make sure she was dying/dead.
 
I didn't mean any offense when I asked what you'd do, btw. I'm still not sure what your asking for, to be honest. "something interesting" isn't exactly specific. Just a cinematically impressive visual death or do you mean something more thematic to the character, like Bane falling down into darkness or whatever?

I wasn't offended at all, just pointing out that no, I can't just sit here and come up with something that would have been "better," because I'm not the writer and I didn't tell the story, and I suppose the ending in general would have needed to play out differently in order to come up with different death scenes. I don't necessarily have to know what would have been better, specifically, to know that I felt it was incredibly underwhelming.
 
It's been asked multiple times but no one seems to have an answer:

How did people know who Miranda really was? People in this thread and the OT made it sound as if that twist was painfully obvious... Really? How?

If it was as obvious as some have stated then I must have clearly missed something.

Her being interested in the fusion reaction core, therefore a new energy source. Environment-friendly, environment terrorist, connect the dots. Don't remember how early that was in the movie, though.
 
This movie needs an additional 45 minutes to level out pacing and add more character exposition. Bane deserved a better death. I think Catwoman needed much much more depth. In my dreams there is a flawless director's cut of this movie
 
How did people know who Miranda really was? People in this thread and the OT made it sound as if that twist was painfully obvious... Really? How?

she dropped a line that sounded like "bring balance to the world" which was worded just like Ra's "Justice is balance". Family likes balances
 
I loved the way they handled Bane's death. The battle was over once Talia stabbed Batman. I didn't see any need to drag that conflict out any further.

I guess the actual dispatching of him was very Joss Whedon-esque but I dug it.

I didn't mind the actual way he went out, although Selina's bon mot was a little clunky. And I could have used a shot of his body for closure, just because all of these films are inconsistent with what kind of "damage" people can take. On one hand it seems completely ridiculous to think someone could survive getting blasted by a missile.. on the other hand, if he did survive it I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
 
It's been asked multiple times but no one seems to have an answer:

How did people know who Miranda really was? People in this thread and the OT made it sound as if that twist was painfully obvious... Really? How?

If it was as obvious as some have stated then I must have clearly missed something.

I knew just from the casting and being a big fan of the Animated series in the 90's. The casting screamed it out basically, there was no one else she could have been.
 
I also don't get the Bane death was underwhelming thing. I honestly cannot possibly imagine what way would have been better and also make sense.

idk, I wanted to batman to exact full out revenge after he broke his back. It wouldn't fit in with the Talia twist and catwoman coming back, but I just wanted to see bats rip bane's mask completely off.
 
I also don't get the Bane death was underwhelming thing. I honestly cannot possibly imagine what way would have been better and also make sense.

I like theatrical villain deaths, like Alan Rickman in Die Hard. I felt like he got what was coming to him. It was satisfying. Bane was a villain I was excited about and felt that he unleashed all kinds of hell on an entire city and our main character.

And then he goes out like a total punk and no big deal at all was made out of it.
 
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