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Selina popped a cap in his ass.
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Selina popped a cap in his ass.
I clapped at this post in appreciation and agreement. I am just letting you know
I also clapped at this post. So many missed opportunities to kill off JGL's character, squandered
Shrennin
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Honestly, the only thing I really have a problem with as far as the script is the nuclear device. The nuclear fallout should have threatened Gotham more than the 6 mile radius explosion (when it exploded over the water) and Batman honestly wouldn't survive the explosion because it looked like he clearly didn't eject from The Bat in enough time to escape (which was the purpose of not knowing whether or not he survived or not, but it didn't make sense how he could have possibly survived).
Other than those issues, I think the movie was pretty awesome and, if it didn't have those flaws, it would be, for me, easily the best Batman movie. With those flaws, I'm not sure where I would rank it. I would like to see it again to see if I can come up with an explanation that is satisfying enough for me during a second viewing.
I didn't really have a problem with Bruce being in the prison in another country and then being able to travel to Gotham in what seemed like a short time. I could chalk that up to Batman's ability to be resourceful and, with Batman, certain things that shouldn't be possible like that are possible with Batman. It's just the nuke thing was a little bit too much of a leap in logic for me personally.
Other than those issues, I think the movie was pretty awesome and, if it didn't have those flaws, it would be, for me, easily the best Batman movie. With those flaws, I'm not sure where I would rank it. I would like to see it again to see if I can come up with an explanation that is satisfying enough for me during a second viewing.
I didn't really have a problem with Bruce being in the prison in another country and then being able to travel to Gotham in what seemed like a short time. I could chalk that up to Batman's ability to be resourceful and, with Batman, certain things that shouldn't be possible like that are possible with Batman. It's just the nuke thing was a little bit too much of a leap in logic for me personally.
Scott32020
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So after just watching the movie, I thought TDKR > BB = TDK. Felt like it took the best elements of BB (more focus on Bruce's story/League of Shadows), mixed with TDK action/set pieces on a larger scale, and the great editing/introduction of flashbacks a la Inception. On first viewing, my favorite of the trilogy. Bane was great, even though the Joker was such a high bar to reach for [he got close for me]
Razgriz-Specter
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Same here.
Not able to see it again as soon as I would have liked..
But I didn't... She had a similar accent and appearance to Talia... and the League of Shadows was involved. She kept talking about making a better world and hinting that she knew Bruce was Batman. I thought it was quite obvious, especially when Bane said that her becoming head of Wayne Enterprises was part of the plan.
Lots of people applauded at the beginning of Episode III when I saw it. The mood at the end was strange. Not exactly depressed...more like "Well, that's finally over". It was kind of like the bizarro version of TDKR. The last few minutes of ROTS were so fucking bad it made everything else look even worse in relief.
Magically appearing places is Batman's superpower. As soon as you show him hiring some smugglers to fly him to America and using the Batsled to cross the ice it loses its impact.
A pure fusion device would have much less fallout than a traditional fission explosion. (I think)
I interpreted the scene flying out into the ocean as having been time lapsed. He spent more time flying than was shown, so it is conceivable that if he was flying fast enough he could've ejected more than 6 miles away from where it detonated. Also, they said it was a neutron bomb. Neutron radiation doesn't travel very far and is absorbed by air.
The neutron bomb stuff isn't a plot hole. Batman magically getting back to Gotham so quickly and undetected is more of a problem. The biggest problem is how the prison doctor fixed his spine and legs and how a child apparently made a jump that the vast majority of adults couldn't.
I was spoiled by the production photos, but I think I would have gotten it when she said the line about restoring balance or something like that.
Did you have a problem with Batman always being in the right place at right time? Like saving Gordon moments before his death, and right after that saving JGL in a random location in the middle of nowhere moments before his death
Just like in the beginning of TDK, nobody really gave a shit about the Joker in the end except for the fall of Harvey Dent and the death of Rachel.
Well, she kept talking about Bruce fighting for a better world and failing, and the way she said it it sounded like she wasn't just talking about the reactor. It was vindictive.
Shrennin
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Awesome, thanks. That makes that seem a little more believable. Especially the neutron bomb. It just seemed like a clear oversight in the writing department by the Nolan brothers if they had wrote that as a nuclear bomb like I initially thought and then thought the audience wouldn't think about the nuclear fallout from it. I don't expect oversights like that from the Nolan brothers so I knew there had to be something that I was missing.
That's convenient for sure but this was obviously the most "comic booky" as far as the Nolan Batman films and Batman does that in the comics. It's lazy writing, perhaps, but that happens with the Batman character - like him disappearing magically while Gordon is talking to him.
Honestly, I had more of a problem with Blake finding Gordon after Gordon fell into the water to escape from Bane.
Do we know how far away that country was from Gotham? Even if it was far, far away from the States, if Bruce was able to find a plane then his return would only take a couple of days at most (assuming there was a way he could get to a plane from where the prison was). Getting into Gotham undetected isn't much of a problem for me specifically because I expect Batman to be able to sneak into Gotham of all places - even if it was under lockdown by Bane.
I also kinda forgot about his back breaking and then being fixed - that was definitely kinda stupid. It would have been better if Nolan got rid of his realistic take in this one instance and actually had a Lazarus Pit. In the chance his spine wasn't broken, I guess it would be possible to heal, but if his spine was broken then I am pretty sure he would be paralyzed without the possibility of healing.
You'd think someone would've mentioned Joker as a comparison for Bane when Bane started showing up and pulling off outrageous plots to terrorize the public.
I'd hope Bruce left him some money although I wonder if he even had money to give.
Hasphat'sAnts
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I wish the movie had more Michael Caine in it.
Razgriz-Specter
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This, I saw the photos but they did a good job later convincing me she wasn't till her speeches in the movie.
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I'm not trying to insult you or anyone you love, my friend. I just think it's weird. It's not something I've ever seen happen in Australia.
I avoided all spoilers and it was a surprise for me even though I follow the comics and thought halfway through the movie that she'd have been a great Talia. I feel I'm in the majority of folks who didn't know what was going to happen.
PS: Why the hell do you people ruin movies for yourselves?
jediyoshi
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Emotion is for the weak.
demosthenes
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Lucuious would have been able to prove the fraud and the money would have been returned to the Wayne estate. My guess at least.
Billionaires don't just lose their money. They hide money, and have lots of it hidden away.
Presumably the new Batcave has all the stuff in it for Blake to be a self-sufficient Batman without needing outside money. Batman doesn't always have to use prototype military vehicles and those are the only things Batman uses that are especially expensive.
Also, they made a point during the dividing of the Wayne estate to say that the pearl necklace was still missing. Bruce and Selina must be living on the money they got for that necklace.
In the daytime he will have a side job running a smile analysis agency
RyanardoDaVinci
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Try the Batman: Arkham City logo. They look pretty similar.
Speaking of the suit...
Remember the thread where someone thought this would be a better look for the movies?
The material? No.
As far as the colors? Yes. I would like the suit to have a little variety, a darker shade of gray would look good.
We had two guys dressed like the Joker; one Romero, and one Nicholson. The Romero one got a lot of the theater to sing "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells."
Green Mamba
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Just saw it today, liked it a lot. Not as good as the first two (Begins is the best of the three), but still good. I felt the middle section of the movie with the whole prison was drawn out too long, but the whole ending sequence when Batman gets back to Gotham was exciting as all hell. Really glad they had a happy ending, though I was worried for a second there.
Talia's reveal caught me completely off guard. I had been avoiding spoilers for this movie like the plague, so I had no idea who this Miranda Tate character was, and I thought it was unusual that she was getting so much screen time, but when she stabbed Batman in the back I was completely surprised. I was like, "holy shit." I mean, I'm familiar with the comic books, but I also knew that the Nolan Batman movies play around with the comic canon, so I just took Bruce's (incorrect) revelation that Bane was Ra's child at face value. I do think that, had I known of the Miranda Tate character going in and that she had so much screen time I don't think I would have been as surprised as I had been, so definitely thankful for my one time ability to actually avoid spoilers.
I do think that it was kind of bizarre that the Joker wasn't referenced at all. I mean, he obviously wasn't going to physically reappear, but the way he isn't referenced at all makes him seem so unimportant to the whole trilogy, which just shouldn't be the case.
Talia's reveal caught me completely off guard. I had been avoiding spoilers for this movie like the plague, so I had no idea who this Miranda Tate character was, and I thought it was unusual that she was getting so much screen time, but when she stabbed Batman in the back I was completely surprised. I was like, "holy shit." I mean, I'm familiar with the comic books, but I also knew that the Nolan Batman movies play around with the comic canon, so I just took Bruce's (incorrect) revelation that Bane was Ra's child at face value. I do think that, had I known of the Miranda Tate character going in and that she had so much screen time I don't think I would have been as surprised as I had been, so definitely thankful for my one time ability to actually avoid spoilers.
I do think that it was kind of bizarre that the Joker wasn't referenced at all. I mean, he obviously wasn't going to physically reappear, but the way he isn't referenced at all makes him seem so unimportant to the whole trilogy, which just shouldn't be the case.
Zoe
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I'm assuming he used the Bat's autopilot to come pick him up.
Christopher
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Batman Begins is still my favorite of all three it goes in this order:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
...I dunno I might have to see it again, it didn't really do anything for me.
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
...I dunno I might have to see it again, it didn't really do anything for me.
I feel like it was a bit of a cop out that nobody significant on the good guy team died. Not even Alfred or Gordon, the oldest guys.
I like how in the opening scene, Bane drains a bunch of blood from the nuclear physicist into the comatose body they brought to die in his place to sell his death with DNA evidence. It was a nice touch.
I like how in the opening scene, Bane drains a bunch of blood from the nuclear physicist into the comatose body they brought to die in his place to sell his death with DNA evidence. It was a nice touch.
Zoe
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But how was he able to contact The Bat? I assume Bane would have taken every device that Bruce had away from him when he was put in the prison.
Maybe he just walked to one of the nearest call centers and used a computer
Nemesis121
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))I was expecting her to pick up a gun and shoot him in that scene.
Though I did have a stupid moment where when it was revealed that "Bane was Ra's child" I had the incorrect thought "Bane and Talia are siblings?" I think that's because the kid in the flashbacks looked like a boy.
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I saw it in liemax on Friday and regular this morning. Kind of regret not seeing it in liemax again the sound mix wasn't as good. Music wasn't as loud which wasn't that big a deal but the voices were way to low. Might have just been the theater, but it's new fairly new one.
Best thing about that Edgewater theater is the awesome seating. I'm a tall guy and people can walk past me and I dont have to move my legs.
I was tricked by the "Bane is the child" bait and switch because of how Nolan takes creative liberty with the comic canon. I totally forgot about Miranda.
I was disappointed that she didn't actually kill him. Also, Bane's death was so anti-climactic, Selina shoots him with the bike cannon and he dies off screen.
Also, it was really jarring how all the people being mowed down by guns would lay on the ground with no bullet holes in them and no blood.
It is my feeling that The Dark Knight trilogy should've been rated R, the tone and themes and imagery is very mature and dark and not really for young children. Not showing blood doesn't really change that and that they could drop to a PG-13 just because they didn't show blood is another indicator of how rigid and stupid the rating system is.
I was disappointed that she didn't actually kill him. Also, Bane's death was so anti-climactic, Selina shoots him with the bike cannon and he dies off screen.
Also, it was really jarring how all the people being mowed down by guns would lay on the ground with no bullet holes in them and no blood.
It is my feeling that The Dark Knight trilogy should've been rated R, the tone and themes and imagery is very mature and dark and not really for young children. Not showing blood doesn't really change that and that they could drop to a PG-13 just because they didn't show blood is another indicator of how rigid and stupid the rating system is.
Maybe he just walked to one of the nearest call centers and used a computer
A beleaguered Bruce looked for the nearest rich guy in the foreign city, posed as a waiter and asked if he wanted a refill on his drink. He lifted the finger prints off of the guy's wine glass, sold all his stocks, and bought a one way ticket back to Gotham City
They used a boy for the first flashback and a girl for the second. Anyone who saw the twist coming 100% and wasn't spoiled at all is probably lying
Lionel Mandrake
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So, after being on lockdown, I'm curious now.
What spoiler did the junior suicide with in the OT?
Also what were some of the most revealing photos leaked? And what were some of the worst spoilers that you saw?
and what was the fake spoiler you saw that is funny in retrospect?
What spoiler did the junior suicide with in the OT?
Also what were some of the most revealing photos leaked? And what were some of the worst spoilers that you saw?
and what was the fake spoiler you saw that is funny in retrospect?
They used a boy for the first flashback and a girl for the second. Anyone who saw the twist coming 100% and wasn't spoiled at all is probably lying
They didn't use a boy. It was the same actress.
Are you sure about this? Then maybe the first scene was blurred a bit?
The PG-13 rating is so they can make bank
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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I know, right? I wish there were more scenes like that, he looks so awesome and dramatic. It's a good look for him.
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS BLACK EYE MAKE UP!?
Most revealing photos I saw were of Cotillard in the Talia outfit and I figured she'd be Talia Al Ghul.
Her stabbing Batman still caught me off-guard though.
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