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- Bane's speech in the prison - "Climbing over each other to see the sun" was pretty powerful I thought. Especially since he speaks from personal experience.

- That was the BB suit. Wayne is rocking the TDK suit this time around. Separation of plates makes him vulnerable to knives and gun fire.

Ah ok-totally missed that. I watched Batman Begins as a refresher but ran out of time for Dark Knight.
 
Alfred gave up on Bruce. Fuck TDKR. Retconning piece of shit! :(

Did he really give up on Bruce? I thought Alfred said he was leaving to try and knock some sense into Bruce. A last-ditch effort to stop his suicidal behavior. Sort of a "Fine, do what you want. See if I care." that a parent does to their kid to get them to realize the parent was right in the first place.

By the time he realized what had happened, Bruce was in prison and Gotham was cut off.
 
The only problem I had with the movie was the time-lapses in Gotham, in one scene they had 5 months left, cut to Bruce in the prison, cut to the city and it's 23 days, cut again to the city and there are 18 hours left...

The editing made it a bit strange.

Regarding the Scarecrow as the judge, I LOVED IT, the desks mountain was great.

And regarding runtime, I know a lot of people says it was too long, or that some scenes could be removed, but for me it was the opposite, I missed a lot of scenes, Bruce coming back from the prison would be great, or some more backstory on Talia and Bane, and maybe more parts from Gotham to help with the problems I wrote before.
 
My thoughts on the movie pretty much parallel everyone else except for the "OMG THAT WAS PERFECT" segment of the audience.

CONS
*I personally feel Bane was completely wasted-all his scenes -ESPECIALLY his speech at the football stadium came off poorly to me, whereas I loved all the villains in the previous 2 movies. He was just so...boring!


Fair enough, but I personally thought that...

Bane said:
So you think the dark is your ally? I was born in it. Molded by it. The first time I saw the light I was already a man. And by then it was nothing but black! The shadows betray you, because they belong to me!

...was up there with any of the writing in the trilogy.
 
My thoughts on the movie pretty much parallel everyone else except for the "OMG THAT WAS PERFECT" segment of the audience.

PROS
*Anne Hathaway as Catwoman was great-she totally delivered and brought a much needed levity to the scenes she was in. DAT ASS....
*JGL was great-even if he just happens to guess "Yeah I know you're Batman. No biggie."
*The entire third act when Bruce returns is great.
*TREMENDOUS scene with Dr. Crane as the judge-he rocked and that set design there was awesome.

CONS
*I personally feel Bane was completely wasted-all his scenes -ESPECIALLY his speech at the football stadium came off poorly to me, whereas I loved all the villains in the previous 2 movies. He was just so...boring!
*Very poor pacing problems in this movie-I honestly can't believe how slow the second act is...
*Very poor writing with the foreshadowing. "This darn auto-pilot is broken." "Man, auto-pilot still broken..." "I go to this cafe in Paris every Saturday night looking for you"
*I'm broke as of today. 10 minutes later my power goes out. :/
*In Batman Begins, Lucius shows Bruce the armor and says it will stop a knife. But not Talia's knife!
*You could edit out every scene with Matthew Modine in this movie, and you wouldn't miss a thing. In fact, the movie's pacing problems could use this.

The suit in TDK was more segmented. Lucius said it offered less protection.
 
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My favorite part of the trilogy.
 
i think i had more trouble with alfred's character in this movie than anything else. "you still haven't given up on me" "never"

Alfred, you fucking liar.


Alfred didn't want to leave, Bruce demanded that he do so.

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Two-Face makes way more sense

"death or exile; heads or tails? same side of the dirty coin"

on that note why wasn't he in this movie?

Not sure if serious...
 
Did he really give up on Bruce? I thought Alfred said he was leaving to try and knock some sense into Bruce. A last-ditch effort to stop his suicidal behavior. Sort of a "Fine, do what you want. See if I care." that a parent does to their kid to get them to realize the parent was right in the first place.

By the time he realized what had happened, Bruce was in prison and Gotham was cut off.

That is what Alfred was doing. I'm just being funny. Your first clue should have been your laughter.
 
some Joker/Scarecrow interaction in TDK would've been so kickass. The court scene in this movie was where I felt the Joker's absence the most, since I think he would've been doing a lot of the same shit in this movie as Scarecrow was.

If Joker was handing out the sentences... holy shit. Best movie of all time. Damn you Heath for dying. :( :(
 
It's still not enough for me. Bad shit happened to him, but he showed no signs of becoming a killer. It's the one enduring annoyance that stuck with me the moment TDK finished. Of everything in that excellent film, I felt unsatisfied by Harvey's character arc and felt his transformation into Two Face "I'm going to try and kill an innocent woman and her kid" happened far too quickly.

But I know a lot of people feel differently, and this has been an argument dragged through the mud since the film was released. Personally, Begins has the tightest script and narrative of the three films with fewer contrivances and plot holes. There's not a scene I'd change or I feel is out of place.

I feel like Dent in TDK had a more reasonable reason to lose his mind and become a psychopath than Batman has ever had in any version of the character I'm familiar with. So noting that the premise of the movie requires I accept a lot of goofy shit to accept Batman's basic premise, I don't feel like the Two Face complaints make total sense to me.
I mean, these films aren't about the people of Gotham who lose someone and move on. Those people run around in the background. It's the notable characters that get featured in the plot. In this case, it was Harvey Dent.
I can't say other people don't feel the way they feel, but Batman is a bigger stretch to me than Two Face.

But beyond that, movies of this kind don't have to justify stuff THAT much, because the fact that it IS unusual makes it a story worth telling in some ways.
 
If The Joker was there, I think we all know how it would end: him riding the neutron bomb off into the sunset, telling the League of Shadows to stop worrying and love the corruption.
 
Wow I totally forgot about the part where his new suit is vulnerable to guns and knives, and then talia stabs him.

Dat fucking detail <3
 
I keep telling you guys the Begins suit should never have been ditched. Batman is a dumbass. He was moving faster in Begins than the other two movies anyway.
 
My favourite part of both Dark Knight and Rises is the crazy flipping tires thing on the bike. It's so stupid and unpractical do in real life but LOOKS SO COOL
 
one thing that always bugged me. Why did Batman have to have his driver's seat flatten him out like a torpedo when he wanted to fire his cannon and drive "tactically"? Is there any reason for that other than to have a comical scene with Gordon later?
 
why did Bane take the doctors blood in the plane scene? I was confused by that

Also what computer model / tablet was used for the stock exchange scene.. thanks
 
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