Shane Satterfield: Wii U will cost $299
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$350 was my guess since forever but I could be wrong.
$230 for just the console using a modern GPU and mediocre CPU.
$80 for the GamePad.
$20 for the packaging and pre-installed software
$20 for packin game.
Gemüsepizza
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Their losses were much less than Sony's losses. Or are you refering to RROD?
Microsoft lost billions because of RROD and they also sold each console at a lost till around 2008. What Microsoft did better than Sony was recuperate those costs by getting Xbox live subscriptions and having better user interfaces and online and more compelling software pre-2009 (Gears of War, Halo 3, BioShock exclusivity at the time, Mass Effect 1 exclusivity)Gemüsepizza;40363551 said:
Gemüsepizza
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So you guys are saying Xbox 720 and PS4 will not have comparable graphics and will not look much better than Wii U?
Gemüsepizza;40363091 said:
Just want to point out that Nintendo will have achievements on the WiiU. Also, graphically, I think you're not only overestimating what the the graphics power of the next PS and Xbox will be, but also not taking into account the higher costs that such visuals would entail. Many companies already have a difficult time pouring money into cutting edge visuals on current gen consoles and still turning a profit. While the new tech will certainly allow some extra bells and whistles, many developers are going to have a tough time making anything significantly better looking than the what we're getting with games this gen.
I think we're getting closer to an upper limit graphically, where innovations will have to come more through real time animation, AI, and physics (basically in game interaction).
Gemüsepizza;40363706 said:
"Did not suffer from losses" is a whole lot different than "had less losses than this other guy." :lol
Without an overarching GameScore, I'm finding games just having "achievements" isn't incredibly interesting. Still vaguely interesting, but without that overall tracking, it loses a lot for me.
Not that that makes any difference to buying a Wii U or not. Just wanted to point out that, at least for some, just having "achievements" in a game without that overall tracking isn't nearly as interesting.
Jorok Goldblade
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It has a pretty decent launch lineup. It's just that we have no idea what's coming after the launch.
PS4 is likely to have a GPU ranging from 7850 to 7970. All of those GPUs are not that much worse than the 680 and should handle the tech demos with some cutbacks or optimisation.
specialguy
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Oh, this again.
They had losses at the start but overall the 360 project should be comfortably in the black by now. And would be moreso if RROD hadn't happened.
I'd be happy with a $300 price point.
And people give a fuck about blu-ray? I have 2 blu-ray players and hardly ever use them. I guess maybe in a few years they'll dominate the market, maybe?
If you do buy blu-rays regularly you obviously have money to burn, and (going out on a limb here) a blu-ray player already. So you can afford the Wii U and don't need it to play blu-rays. I have just solved your dilemma, and you're welcome. =)
And people give a fuck about blu-ray? I have 2 blu-ray players and hardly ever use them. I guess maybe in a few years they'll dominate the market, maybe?
If you do buy blu-rays regularly you obviously have money to burn, and (going out on a limb here) a blu-ray player already. So you can afford the Wii U and don't need it to play blu-rays. I have just solved your dilemma, and you're welcome. =)
Phat Michael
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which one is supposed to be the good game out of that lot?
I think it's hard to differ between what's a good launch line-up for personal taste, and what's a good launch line-up.
I remember most of GAF thinking the Vita had an amazing launch line-up, but being that it wasn't/isn't selling hardware.. really hard to make the case.
The Wii U has a strong line-up, if it's good or not is all subjective.
Depends on your tastes. ZombiU has garnered lots of interest from people all over for its real take on survival horror. Mario sells gangbusters and sidescrolling Mario is classic and fun gaming. Darksiders II and Assassins Creed III are highly anticipated third party games and will use the GamePad uniquely (while also supporting the regular pro controller).
Only games in that list confirmed for launch day are NSMB, Nintendo Land and ZombiU. They're probably going to stretch Pikmin 3, Rayman and P-100 across the months leading up to E3 2013.
Wii U is looking like the weakest Nintendo launch line up of all time, unless NSMB is awesome and Nintendo Land can somehow capture that magic Wii Sports had at Wii launch.
Wow, there is all kinds of fanboy stupid going on in this thread...smh
$299 was expected, now it comes down to content of the package, I hope they include Nintendoland, to not would be silly of them...I'd even be expecting them to possibly pack in some e-shop credit, to get people pulled into the service...
$299 was expected, now it comes down to content of the package, I hope they include Nintendoland, to not would be silly of them...I'd even be expecting them to possibly pack in some e-shop credit, to get people pulled into the service...
I don't think the increased costs of next-gen game development is going to scare developers that much despite what some of them have said. They are after all, a stubborn bunch despite their flawed business model. They'll find ways to deal with it and they'll find ways to make some money off of us like they have during this generation. Yes, development studios will close and staff layoffs will continue to be problematic and introducing new IPs will be all the more risky to pursue.
As someone who got to play them, I'd say all of them were great.
Thank you. Pikmin 3 is must and P-100 looks interesting and I can finally play Batman.
edit. Didn't know Wii U is going to get Mass Effect 3 :O I really need to start playing the previous games.
VGChampion
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I seriously doubt that. Months leading up to E3? This is Nintendo we're talking about. These guys like to announce and release games quickly now. Besides, I thought the latest rumor was NSMB being delayed a tad bit. I can't see Pikmin 3 not hitting day one.
I remember Iwata saying NSMBU would launch day one with the Wii U. Pikmin 3 has only been confrimed "launch window" which Reggie says Nintendo considers "four months" after launch. So unless there is a delay, Pikmin 3 will be released sometime before March 2013.
DXB-KNIGHT
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$299 or less is what I expect.
You're right.
We'll get Pikmin 3 and P-100 before 2013, and January-June will be a barren wasteland. That's the Nintendo way!
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Are you going off artstyle or technical merits because artstyle sure SMG looks better than a lot of PS3/360 titles to me. Technically it's not even close.
Doesn´t look like a Gamecube title but more like something you could download for 10-15 bucks on PSN/Live.
Oh and 300 $/€ for this hardware and this godawful launch lineup? Yeah good luck with that Nintendo, you´ll need it.
It's not the developers who are having huge problems at the get-go, it's the amount of overhead that the publishers continue to hire for creating a bloated system and leading to failures when comprises start rearing their head because executives are too stupid to understand. I see a lot of developers (singular) surviving, many from previously broken houses, but they tend to reassert what they want to do and continue with their passion with the lessons learned.
It's the grunt guys who suffer the most and they tend to lose their most valuable assets because of it. Meanwhile the huge conglomerates like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, EA, Activision, etc, continue to live and breathe.
There's a possible rhyme and rhythm as to why indie game development has become popular, and while a healthy reason to its rise is associated with the communication aspect of it all broadening, I'd like to think that a lot of it comes down to budding game developers making what they want to make and not screwing over their proposed customers with dollar and dime methods.
This console generation will be remembered for several things:
- Shoe-horning obtuse motion controls
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DLCMostly ridiculous
- Pre-order bullshit
- Lots of studio closures
"The" good game? Although previously mentioned, all of them have potential to be good. And once the NDAs lift, we'll know more about 3rd party games.
Basically, everyone needs to reserve judgment until the super secret September presser.
chertipros
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Nintendo has a september event were they announce the price.....the same event were they unveiled the price of the 3ds and wii
Nintendo' of America's PR manager at Comic-Con was the one who said that New SMB U would come out not too long after launch."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/13/comic-con-the-wii-u-demos-you-have-to-see (the comment starts at 3:57)
Here's the thing, Nintendo refers to the game as a "launch title" in the first video. In the second video, they said "New SMB U when it launches with the console."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJ74YiWxok&feature=player_embedded#t=02m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJ74YiWxok&feature=player_embedded#t=02m33s
First post after getting approved 4 days ago.
To the topic at hand!! $300 is not that bad of a deal. I think most demand a lot of these technological functions but want the package at a cheap price. Businesses need to make money to stay afloat, just like when your hours get cut at work, haha.
I just want a gaming console that has great games. With 3 big name companies, 3 major consoles on market 3rd parties are torn. FPS are taking over gaming nation!!!! The heart of gaming has been converted solely to $$$$$$$$.
To the topic at hand!! $300 is not that bad of a deal. I think most demand a lot of these technological functions but want the package at a cheap price. Businesses need to make money to stay afloat, just like when your hours get cut at work, haha.
I just want a gaming console that has great games. With 3 big name companies, 3 major consoles on market 3rd parties are torn. FPS are taking over gaming nation!!!! The heart of gaming has been converted solely to $$$$$$$$.
BLops 2 will be there. Its just not officially announced. Same for Fifa and Madden. It's a better launch lineup than most console launches.
IrishNinja
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wait wait, pikmin 3 wont be there at launch? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Do you really believe that? You honestly think Nintendo had better have good luck in order to succeed with this console's launch?
I'm going to guess they'll do just fine. There's a lot of Nintendo fans out there, and there's also a lot of people ready for the next new thing. This is both.
To think that Nintendo will fail unless some lucky circumstance occurs seems to be ignoring their past history.
TheChocolateWar
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Nope, too expensive for my blood. At least, I can't justify that price tag with the current launch line up. Had it been 100 dollars cheaper I would have been all over it.
I think 200€ could've happened if the Wii U was on par with PS3/360 hardware. After all, PS3 and 360 are retailing for 200€, in contrast to the Wii U they include a 250GB or 320GB HDD, whereas the Wii U includes a gamepad. How much does that gamepad cost in production? 80€?
The 300USD price tag shouldn't be surprising as the Japanese price is 30000 yen, as revealed by Nikkei during E3.
Spieler Eins
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They launched their goddamn handheld at 250, of course it wouldn't happen. Feels more like some people who never planned to buy it anyway are searching for any kind of excuse ITT.
TheChocolateWar
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It isn't the first time a company has sold their initial installment at a loss. It isn't exactly a bad business decision either. Quite simple; get enough of a market out there for potential new games so that developers are attracted to the platform. Then you make most of your earnings on royalties from the game sales. As cost of production goes down you eventually begin to make money on the gradual stream of console sales and the massive royalties from an even larger install base. It takes money to make money.
AkimbO_Arcana
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People coming in here and proclaiming "should be 200" are either delusional or weren't even interested in the console in the first place and are just here to bash the thing imo.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Yea right everyone has had those systems for 6 years plus. Even developers are whining for new consoles.
Devs are whining for better hardware. I personally doubt the Wii-U is the jump they are looking for.
Anyway, i'm keeping my wallet closed until all the next-generation consoles are announced. I don't have the time nor the interest to buy all three consoles, so i'm making sure I don't get burned on the Wii-U.