I remember HipHopGamer saying the Wii U version of Blacklist would look like the Xbox version of Chaos Theory and the PS3/360 version would look like the PS2 version of it so maybe for now.
Shane Satterfield: Wii U will cost $299
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I remember HipHopGamer saying the Wii U version of Blacklist would look like the Xbox version of Chaos Theory and the PS3/360 version would look like the PS2 version of it so maybe for now.
Not going to buy something that should be built into the console.
With the dinosaurs.
I guess only dinosaurs care about image quality. Digital distribution has nothing on the sheer quality of blu-ray. And streaming is AWFUL.
I feel like if it were up to GAF to build a console, it would have $200 worth of stuff that people will hardly ever use, yet they would put it there "just in case I need it". There is nothing wrong with wifi. I've had the exact same number of problems gaming over my below average wifi as I have with bridge trolls on my way to work.
Will we be singing this same tune next year when ps420 launches at $399+?
chertipros
Member
Of course not. People will get 2 jobs if they have to to buy those
This is just silly. If they announced the console was launching at $379.99 with blu-ray capability, people would still be bitching about the price. Why raise the price to add something that only videophiles care about? Odds are, if you are a videophile that HAS to have blu-ray, you're going to have a better player than they would have put in the Wii U anyway.
Spieler Eins
Member
What some also seem to forget, Netflix only exists in America. Unlike Bluray. I heard Nintendo wants to sell consoles worldwide...
I'm no big movie buff, so I'm not raging over this, yet it's still disappointing. Or rather a little annoying, just like the lack of DVD support in this gen.
Daydream Sequence
Banned
The future is digital. The future isn't physical discs.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
There are streaming video solutions for other regions too, even on Wii (BBC iPlayer, Wii no Ma). It is something all the console makers need to work on though.
The mass market wants convenience more than quality. You and I may not like it but that is just the way it is. There are clear examples of this in every industry. I understand that some people don't like the direction technology is headed but it's going there with or without them.
No, because the dudebros will be appeased by the NEXT GENERATION GRAFIXXXX. This alone will justify their console preference (and Nintendo hatred).
B-but, when I kill Generic Soldier 639285, I can see each droplet of blood that splatters from the bullet hole! They even have advanced fluid physics!
Actually, Microsoft's subscription plan might make the initial price pretty low.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Bolded isn't true at all.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Uncharted 4 will look awesome. And yeah I can definitely see m$ and Sony using the subscription model for cheap people next gen.
specialguy
Banned
$50 less than I expected.
I wish people would stop referencing this, imo it's nothing but a gimmick.
Also, the leaked "Docs" claimed MS was shooting for 299 with Durango as it is.
I wish people would stop referencing this, imo it's nothing but a gimmick.
Also, the leaked "Docs" claimed MS was shooting for 299 with Durango as it is.
I'm not sure what this means. From what I understand, there is a $99 or so base price with monthly fees after that for two years. I'm not sure that you could really call it "cheap" if someone doesn't want to dish out a lump $500 on a gaming console.
Uhh, PS3 is only $250 and has blu-ray.
Better hardware will deserve a higher price point. In this case we're getting PS3/Xbox level hardware for a higher price. Doesn't add up.
I'm not really sure what your point is. I'm saying the console is $300 without blu-ray, it would obviously be more with it. Also, Blu-ray belongs to Sony if I'm not mistaken. They will not let Nintendo use it for free.
But the Wii U is more powerful than the PS3/360 so...
No.
Guys someone is going to have to fill me in. I hate being the only one that doesn't know what kind of hardware is in the Wii U.
None of the launch game shows that it's more powerful in any way the average consumer will be able to notice.
Spieler Eins
Member
So, what did I miss, the UK? Meanwhile, streaming services in mainland Europe feel rather scarce (and obviously often restricted to each country), while DVD/Bluray don't really seem to go away anytime soon. For me, it wouldn't have been a must have, but still a neat bonus to have them supported. I'd certainly take it over a Nintendoland pack-in.
lunchwithyuzo
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I'm sure they'll have a gimped, half functional model for $299. Just like 360.
Yes, it feels like an add on, a catch up. 199 is the only way it gets attention. How much is an iPad mini going to cost? They need to priced cheaper than that.
Assassin's Creed 3, Batman, and other games we might not know about, and like I said before the Xbox 360 launch games looked like Xbox games with HD, people where calling the Xbox 360 the Xbox 1.5 and we all know that proved people wrong, just because we haven't seen one launch title yet that shows true next gen graphics doesn't mean we won't see it in the future.
megarockexe
Member
Pack-in would save this price-point. It's simply not possible to release a console this day and age any lower with that kind of tech.
Something like Kameo was far more than an Xbox game in HD. And even then, we had already seen games like FF13 and Gears for PS3/360 that were clearly above and beyond the previous gen.
There are no Wii U games at this point in time that look clearly above 360/PS3. And I'm not saying there will never be ones that aren't clearly above, but if there aren't any at the moment, to even show off, then why will the consumer care if it's technically more powerful?
specialguy
Banned
This is the controller cost coming home.
Anybody who expected the Wii U to be cheap with Nintendos greed (hey, lets be honest, they like to sell hardware at a profit and if it was anybody else we'd call it greed) and that controller included, well, it just wasnt happening.
And dont forget 299+controller+profit margin doesnt leave much room for chipset, and thats why Wii U lacks in the muscle department.
Anyways 299 is not horrible though anyway. Inflation marches on. 299 is 25 years ago (SNES era) 199.
if it's really 299 and not more. my hunch was 349 all along.
Anybody who expected the Wii U to be cheap with Nintendos greed (hey, lets be honest, they like to sell hardware at a profit and if it was anybody else we'd call it greed) and that controller included, well, it just wasnt happening.
And dont forget 299+controller+profit margin doesnt leave much room for chipset, and thats why Wii U lacks in the muscle department.
Anyways 299 is not horrible though anyway. Inflation marches on. 299 is 25 years ago (SNES era) 199.
if it's really 299 and not more. my hunch was 349 all along.
Daydream Sequence
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And I need to se value for my dollar. It wont be hard for me to wait a year or so to see what Microsoft and Sony are going to release. If Nintendo is still competititve after I see that, I'll see how the 3rd party situatuion is and then buy accordingly. i'll never buy another Nintendo console that has lackluster third party support. Been burned by them too often.
Yes, that is what we call operating a business.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
SO everyone said that Nintendo Learned it's lesson on the 3DS well Im saying here and now $300.00 isnt a good price point. SO maybe the system is slighlty better than 360 and PS3 but those will cost much less and a price drop is coming fro both ps3 and 360.
I was expecting no more than $249.00 with Nintendo World tossed in. this is the price Im willing to bite at yep it's $50.00 but thats a fair price for the tech/lack of tech they are providing.
Otherwise I will wait for the Mini iPAD and Apple TV game system for my gimmick gaming.
I was expecting no more than $249.00 with Nintendo World tossed in. this is the price Im willing to bite at yep it's $50.00 but thats a fair price for the tech/lack of tech they are providing.
Otherwise I will wait for the Mini iPAD and Apple TV game system for my gimmick gaming.
Sell accessories and software...
If they mess up hardware sales then there is a chance that any grip they gain is not enough to build momentum later after launch.
I'd rather have 6m WiiU's sold at $199 then 2m WiiU's at $299.
Nintendo can't afford to not have a good install base.
AppleBlade
Member
So the brand new Nintendo console should cost the same as the cheapest model of the 7 year old 360? I really think you are being unrealistic. $299 is the price point I had hoped for so I am glad if this is the case. Now let's see if NintendoLand is included.
Kameo looked great and was a great game but it looked like a high end Xbox game with better resolution, Nintendo confirmed they only wanted to focus on launch titles at E3, but at the Fall Conference they will show off 2013 games for the Wii U, that's when we will most likely see games that look better than anything the PS3 and 360 could do.
If your still not convinced, look at the Bird and Zelda tech demo from E3 2011, they looked amazing and definitely not possible on the PS3/360.
Well I guess thats that guys. Pack it up!
I think we all knew coming in that it would not be a full generational leap, especially with the controller factored into the price. The issue is, Nintendo has shown absolutely NOTHING due more than 2-3 months post launch, which from my memory is unheard of. They could have some amazing looking games due out late 2013, possibly some that they even have demos ready for. Unfortunately they are taking a very strange approach to this launch.
Kacho
Member
The word greed is a bit strong here. It's a reasonable price, which you have acknowledged. They are are business trying to make money after all.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see you being so positive.
If I'm not mistaken, this is what caused Microsoft and Sony to tank so hard at first financially. Sell at a loss, then make up for it with the rest didn't work so well for them. Nintendo doesn't have anything else to fall back on besides gaming like the others do.
AppleBlade
Member
I am excited about the WiiU but I have to disagree with you. The PS3/360 are definitely capable of Tech Demos that are comparable to the Bird or Zelda demo. in fact, Kara real-time short-movie by quantic dreams on PS3 impressed me more.
Kameo looked great and was a great game but it looked like a high end Xbox game with better resolution, Nintendo confirmed they only wanted to focus on launch titles at E3, but at the Fall Conference they will show off 2013 games for the Wii U, that's when we will most likely see games that look better than anything the PS3 and 360 could do.
If your still not convinced, look at the Bird and Zelda tech demo from E3 2011, they looked amazing and definitely not possible on the PS3/360.
However, I will say that the WiiU launch games blow away 360 launch games so what we see out of the WiiU in a few years (especially the stuff from Nintendo) will definitely look a notch or two better then anything on 360 or PS3.
I'm not talking about competitors consoles. It doesn't even figure in my thoughts. I buy all the consoles anyways but you have to give the consumer a perceived value for money product at launch.
Nintendo is offering 2 screen gaming. It's niche angle. Developers don't seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. Nintendo looks to be again to be the main source of software provider for its own console. That's a problem. It plays a factor in perceived value for money stakes.
Nintendo is not releasing a console that can hit $299 and be a Wii-esque hit.
The Question is though would we see a PS3 game that looks just as good as Kara?, especially since it would probably be 15-30FPS.