Perfect Dark and King Kong (the 4 hour 1,000 achievement game) is going to be better than Pikmin 3, Mario, ACIII, Batman, ME3, etc? Really?
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Perfect Dark and King Kong (the 4 hour 1,000 achievement game) is going to be better than Pikmin 3, Mario, ACIII, Batman, ME3, etc? Really?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Theres a lot of illogical posters in here man. 1+1=8
NSMBU and Nintendo Land will sell gangbusters. How could you have any rational acument in business or video games and not think something called Nintendo Land with a ton of Nintendo characters and fun multiplayer games won't sell. It's absolutely not Wii Sports, it is a different game. Just like Mario Kart and Smash Brothers are different games.
Wii U Fit is interesting though. It's almost the Nintendogs + Cats of this launch. A property that sold well previously, and now faces an apathetic or non existant audience that might have moved on?
MadeInBeats
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My magic 8 ball
walking fiend
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if it was good, it wouldn't be constantly outsold by PS2 during first year of launch; there were so few original launch titles for 360, as wasapparent from the sales of those launch titles; while in the case of Wii U, we can reasonably anticipate few multi-million sellers, NSMB Wii U for sure
DAREALGUMMY
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Abso-bloody-lutely! In whatever dimension AOC83 is talking about.
Barack Lesnar
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He's right about ZombiU not being a noteworthy release if on PS3 or 360. I doubt many would care, it would probably <75k NPD.
Especially P-100. It is a damn shame that game is still flying under the radar. The biggest of Nintendo's (many) E3 mistakes was not showing that game at their conference. I'm willing to become a walking advertisement for that game if necessary.
Well yeah but it can't really be done on the 360/PS3.
Barack Lesnar
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What, sure it can.
Captain Smoker
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Don't see the point of this discussion.
TheChocolateWar
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Those two games are different from what the WiiU is generally offering. A person can enjoy PD0 and yet not find anything enjoyable on the WiiU. It takes a certain kind of person to like the launch line up of Nintendo, and it is entirely reasonable to not enjoy a single one.
Barack Lesnar
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Well, I'm not the one who brought it up. Discussions evolve, topics change, that's how threads work.
walking fiend
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sure, like how StarCraft can be made on 360 using Kinect
Captain Smoker
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I know, doesn't make it better.
Honestly I'm just defending the game because I think it looks really fun, but I think looking down to manage your equipment is a major aspect of the game. But yeah I know what you mean. I do think that the one bite death, lose your items, lose your skills would have drawn attention on the other consoles as well though.
I can't remember purchasing PS360's that do asymmetric gameplay.
Barack Lesnar
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Oh he meant with the pad functionality? I guess, but the meat of the game certainly could.
Because there were only 2 games at 360 launch. And of course you have to at least give PD and King Kong credit for looking better than games on 6/7 year old hardware, something we can´t say about any of the WiiU launch titles.
AkimbO_Arcana
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How so? It's mechanics are completely build around the Game Pad.
Nah besides the gamepad stuff everything else could be pretty easily ported over I'm sure
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I dont know dude king kong and pd0 werent that much better looking. Chaos theory or Riddick game probably looks as good as those. In some ways better
Davey Cakes
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Regardless of the platforms involved, it's still going to be a unique and refreshingly survival-driven horror game unlike any of the other zombie games out there. I think it would garner attention no matter what, since it contrasts games like RE6 and the Left 4 Dead titles.
And this is not even taking into consideration the Gamepad-specific gameplay.
Marginally at best, and that was mostly due to the increase in resolution.
So what is your argument exactly? You were saying that Nintendo would have to be lucky to do well with those games at launch. Do you still stand by that now knowing the 360 and PS3 had POOR launch lineups as well? Or are you just disgruntled by marginal graphical increases the Wii U brings with these launch games? Lay it all on the table for me.
It also just came off a record black friday despite not having a decent price drop in how many years?
You are dreaming if you think Halo 4 + pricedrop won't breathe new life into sales. Same with Sony and its new revision.
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Not to mention RE6/BLOPs/MoH/AssCreed
They definetely were way better than anything the old Box had to offer and they were not the only games. PGR, Kameo, Condemned, Call of Duty 2 just to name a few.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Now thats just not true..I have no idea what your smoking but please..pass it to a crackhead because I dont smoke. Im really trying to not post pics since you know..this is gaf. We know how these games look right? right!?
Captain Smoker
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One month is no evidence for the overall picture, if you think that the Xbox 360 is going to achieve more sales in 2012 than in 2011, not my problem.
And you think that there are still Halo players, after Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Wars, who don't have a Xbox 360? Sure..
I don´t think the 360 had a poor lineup, it had a variety of different genres and provided good games which clearly showed a generational leap. PS3 launch lineup was horrible and made (in combination with the high price) the console bomb.
So my point still stand, awful launch lineup and the high price won´t make the WiiU a great success at the beginning.
Captain Smoker
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This is no point, this is your opinion about the lineup and the price and an assumption about the sales.
Overall seen, I don't know why people argue with you, think what you wan't.
I don´t know what your problem is, i just stated a fact, look the games up yourself if you can´t remember correctly anymore.
Xdrive05
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That's a fine price as long as Ninty has a more robust free online network than Wii had, and as long as they allow (and actually provide) Wii U game demo downloads (does the storage medium even have capacity for this?).
Wouldn't surprise me if neither ends up being true. So they better do what old Nintendo did best: make with the goddamn 1st party AAA games already.
Wouldn't surprise me if neither ends up being true. So they better do what old Nintendo did best: make with the goddamn 1st party AAA games already.
While I haven't played either title, after taking a quick look at PDZ on Youtube, it's pretty clear that it does indeed look much better than anything the Wii has to offer. Even graphical highlighty such as The Last Story cannot compete. Did Xbox1 titles look much better than all Wii games?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Yea... I am done.
I think the jump in resolution had something to do with this. I remember playing launch 360 games (and even some post launch) on my SD TV and not being all too blown away. Definitely better but not by a ton. Look up screens from Conker Reloaded. I'm sure that could probably give most 360 launch games a run for their money in the same resolution.
Daydream Sequence
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What kind of nonsense is this? Smaller electronic devices are quite often higher (or similarly) priced than their larger brethren.
Captain Smoker
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Not in the video game industry.
$300, for what to me seems like a weak first party line up, is not going to cut it for me. I will stay away until there are more worthwhile games for me to play. ME3, Batman:AC, DS2, and AC3? Cool games, better on PC as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo just doesn't cut it for me anymore (was a Ninty fanboy from the 90s up until the Wii fasco), and that's okay I guess.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I doubt PDZ looks better than all Wii games.. as the super mario galaxies looks better than that.
Done with your ridiculous claims? Good.
360 also had condemned, kameo, PGR3, and the superior version of COD 2 (for consoles anyway).
Most people will have already played batman and ME3 and if the Wii U comes out in November most people will have already played AC3 on ps3/360. There's also no noticeable differences on the wii u versions of those games other than a tablet gimmick here and there. They don't have the luxury of using HD as a benefit like 360 did, not to mention the 360 was a lot more powerful than xbox 1.
I love the SMG games, SMG1 is the best game I've played to date. Nonetheless, on a technical level it does not compare to PDZ. The levels are much less detailed. I thought you were talking about the technical level. Otherwise we could also say that Wind Waker looks much better than all Wii U games ...
Giant Panda
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Really? PDZ is easily much more detailed (in some areas).
DragonSworne
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Graphics would be much worse on PS360 so it won't be the same at all.
richman555
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I completely agree with this assessment. This is why I believe Nintendo cannot launch at $300 and be successful. $250 is really the magic number.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I suppose.. but comparing different genre and different art styles is not fair I guess.
I mean how detailed is a mario game supposed to get actually???
You underestimate Halo fans. It's not that there are still a lot of Halo players without a 360. It's that the Halo players are so hardcore that they'll buy the special edition Halo 4 360 even though they already have a 360.
Graphical differences would be minor, at best, but since Zombi U seems to rely heavily on the GamePad for its "hook," no, it couldn't be ported over to PS360 without being majorly reworked or losing something key to the game.
Round numbers/$x99 are "magic" numbers. The reason Wii was so successful at $250 was because of the Wii, not because of some magic sale price. $250 was actually a weird level to launch at.