ClovingWestbrook
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Well I am honored that I have left such an indelible mark on you that has created such a need to respond to so many of my posts. But do tell, where do I stand?
Shane Satterfield: Wii U will cost $299
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Well I am honored that I have left such an indelible mark on you that has created such a need to respond to so many of my posts. But do tell, where do I stand?
metalslimer
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90% of 3rd party games are going to be multiplat on other systems anyway of which I'll most likely be getting the PC versions. When I do get a Wii U it will be for Nintendo games and the niche 3rd party exclusives their systems usually get
Pikmin 3 looks like a GC game apparently. We know where you stand.
Well if a game somehow requires it then he'll have it ready. I don't think it'll be required for anything useful though, it seems rather gimmicky more than anything. Maps and inventory on the screen isn't going to force me to use a whole new controller with bad battery life.
lunchwithyuzo
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You don't, you tend to stumble.
ClovingWestbrook
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That still doesn't actually explain where it is you think that I stand? Mind explaining a tad more?
Oh come now. We're all adults. There is no need for such mud slinging.
wat
You better be saying this without having heard the impressions of the GamePad. Everyone says it's light and comfortable. Open your mind to something new that isn't the exact same controller you've been using since the turn of the millennium.
Of the launch games, Nintendo Land, Zombi U, P-100, and LEGO Undercover use it in ways that would require the GamePad to function. Not sure about Batman's batarang or scanning abilities, but that one may, too. AC3 won't, Black Ops II probably won't, and NSMB U/Rayman won't, unless you're playing that multi-player mode where someone makes platforms appear. Wii Fit U and Just Dance 4 should be able to go without it, as well, except for non-TV/puppet master gameplay.
metalslimer
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I'm not even going to bother with this one.
Barack Lesnar
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other than battery life why choose the classic controller over the pad? Correct me if I'm wrong but they both have all the same buttons and sticks so what does it matter. Comfort?
lunchwithyuzo
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Calling out a pattern of behavior isn't mud slinging.
Because it's not like normal controllers (Even though it has all the buttons of a normal one). People ask for innovate stuff and then bitch and moan when they get it.
metalslimer
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Familiarity is the only one which I guess goes along with comfort.
But only because the PS3 doesn't have a tablet like controller, which is really the essence of the game's uniqueness.
I know what you're saying and I agree, the power of the Wii U is not a major leap. However, do you really think that with the next gen of MS and Sony we're not going to be "buying new hardware for games we are already playing". Believe me, we will be. If anything the Wii U, because of it's controller will allow much more varied experiences.
No, it looks like an SNES game. Mario Kart had a better 3D presentation than Pikmin 3.
H_Prestige
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$300 + $60 Mario game + tax is a much harder sell than single $250 purchase that lets you play baseball in your living room.
Except the battery life.
Except the battery life.
lunchwithyuzo
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NSMBU and Rayman Legends also offer remote pad play iirc, which is a nice option for Wii U games that use only traditional controls and a single screen. Should be great for Virtual Console.
Yeah. I can see myself playing with AC3 just with the Pro Controller since 1) that's how it played on PS360 where the other games came from, and 2) that the only thing they've said they're adding is the ability to change weapons without pausing (but I like the pause to change weapons
). Now if it showed the map all the time, it may still be worth setting up, if they allowed that control mix option.metalslimer
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Playing VC games on the pad is going to be awesome.
I'll probably be getting the PC version of AC3, but the map on at all times is tempting. Any more words on the rumor that the Wii U version will run at 1080p?
I'll probably be getting the PC version of AC3, but the map on at all times is tempting. Any more words on the rumor that the Wii U version will run at 1080p?
But at the end of the day. The star feature is the ability to zap your games. Whether you want to switch your tv for sports, news, television and still be able to play your game. If you want to take your game to bed (provided the distance) and play before bed. I find that most appealing about the system. I mean, we live in a multi-tasking society. I often find it hard to just do one thing at the same time. (Laptop + tv + iphone).
The in-game dual screen use can be both useful and innovative, but outside of certain genres it really probably won't be much but a slight map / inventory companion.
Not that, but you didn't have to buy a game to play baseball in your living room with the Wii.
H_Prestige
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Yeah, that really changes the situation. Ok, $250 + tax.
Yeah. I can see myself playing with AC3 just with the Pro Controller since 1) that's how it played on PS360 where the other games came from, and 2) that the only thing they've said they're adding is the ability to change weapons without pausing (but I like the pause to change weapons
This is fair. You're right, ACIII has a pretty mellow implementation of the GamePad. But dammit, I want to play that game in my bed...
theviolenthero
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That "classic controller" is basically for local multi-player games.
People ask for innovative games. They're tired of input gimmicks.
metalslimer
Member
Don't forget to add a game in. Most Wii owners didn't buy a system without any games. And many people had to buy a 2nd 60 dollar controller to play Wii sports
What's your example of an innovative game? Because Im sure you can call whatever features that are in that game gimmicks as well. It all depends on how its used.
WickedCobra03
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Eh, I am not sure if I am day one. After getting most consoles day one for the last 20 years, it seems like every launch it is harder to get your hands on one due to the popularity of gaming now with mainstream. Plus it's crazy that I haven't bought either a 3DS or a PSV as of yet. I have a huge backlog from previous gens and still rather enjoy playing those games even though they might not be as spiffy as the current stuff.
On top of that, I have an alright PC, a ps3 and a 360, and basically a lot of what I saw from the WiiU are ports of last gen games. It's not that I don't love Nintendo, it is just that I can wait for a 50 to 100 dollar price drop before I jump in this time.
Plus since college, and even after graduating, life gets busier every year where I cant come home 2-3 days a weeks and sit down for 3 hours each night.
Edit: it's not really even the $299 price tag, it's the time and me knowing already this gen how many games I have not been even able to get at due to not a lack of interest, but just being busy.
On top of that, I have an alright PC, a ps3 and a 360, and basically a lot of what I saw from the WiiU are ports of last gen games. It's not that I don't love Nintendo, it is just that I can wait for a 50 to 100 dollar price drop before I jump in this time.
Plus since college, and even after graduating, life gets busier every year where I cant come home 2-3 days a weeks and sit down for 3 hours each night.
Edit: it's not really even the $299 price tag, it's the time and me knowing already this gen how many games I have not been even able to get at due to not a lack of interest, but just being busy.
lunchwithyuzo
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I dunno, I tend to think an exclusive survival horror game, with roguelike elements directly inspired by Demon's Souls, coming from the studio that made Rayman and BG&E would tend to get plently of cheerleaders on any system.
I'm not really interested in ZombiU, but the Red Steel comparisons do seem pretty misjudged given what we know about each.
H_Prestige
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Nobody had to buy extra controllers. That's all optional.
Unless wii u comes bundled with a game, that's another $60 you have to spend on top of $300.
ClovingWestbrook
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What type of pattern? Just because I wasnt a fan of the Wii and am disappointed with Nintendo's handling of E3 and the Wii U doesn't mean anything more than that. Doesn't mean I am not a fan of Nintendo's past and simply yearn for them to reclaim the magic of generations past.
Also the one bite and you're dead, losing all skills, stats, and gear acquired would draw some attention.
Loghorn150
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I think that next gen is going to be a lot different for future Japanese 3rd party support for 360 & 720, & I posted about it in another thread here as to why it may happen, & why 3rd party Japanese developers may support Wii U & PS3/PS4 more than 360/720 in the long run (just my post):
Link.
Same here. Also fits in my reply to Kaijima.
metalslimer
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But many people did is what I'm saying which makes this whole ITS SO MUCH MONEY thing seem pointless.
That's understandable. You on the other hand come into topics and say ridiculous shit like Pikmin 3 looking like a GC game makes people question what your intentions are. It's nice to have reasonable discussion
$40. Almost no one cared about multi-player boxing.
H_Prestige
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Well wii u will also have controllers and peripherals that many people will feel compelled to buy. The system is going to require people to dig quite a bit deeper into their pockets compared to wii is what I'm saying. Only this time there might not be a wii sports type hit to get people salivating.
lunchwithyuzo
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By the same token it should be a significantly easier sell than $400 + $60 PGR game + tax or $600 + $60 Resistance game + tax were.
Though I do expect Wii U underselling Wii to get a whole lot more airtime than it outperforming 360 and PS3, both from the press/analysts and on GAF. And even if it manages the impossible and outperforms Wii upfront, we'll get the usual "won't last" downplaying (see: 3DS).
H_Prestige
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Well yeah, those systems sold like shit until the prices went down and games starting coming in.
As for the second point, why is that a problem? Same thing happens when discussing ps3 sales. When someone mentions how it sells better than 360 launch aligned, all you get is "but it's still way less than 150 million so it's a failure!".
ClovingWestbrook
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I didnt manipulate anything. Simply posted the article in its entirety with the title. But hey, we can agree to disagree my compadre.
And lost all their PS1/PS2 profit...
I know what you are trying to do, but you're trolling would have more success if you stopped using the term gimmick. It isn't 2006 anymore.
Wii controllers/peripherals already work with the system. The Controller Pro is the only one I can think of that someone may need to buy at launch. *shrugs* Yeah, there's stuff to buy, but it's actually better than any other console launch as far as extra controllers are concerned. (Second GamePad won't be available at launch, and there aren't any games setup to use it, yet, anyways.)
metalslimer
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Ok well if you want to have reasonable discussion which I think we all want, heading into hyperbole is not the way to go.
MadeInBeats
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That was nothing more than someone saying that someone told them AC3 will be 1080p. It would be nice, but it's nothing more than an urban legend at this point so I it's best to disregard it until some sort of official statement.
ClovingWestbrook
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Except Derricks point is legitimate. Kinect, Move, and the Wiimote were tools that didnt spawn innovative games. People focused on the tool instead of what the tool produced and that is because for many what the tool produced wasnt innovation. You may disagree with him but you dont need to accuse him of trolling.
Agent Unknown
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The desperate spinning in this thread seriously reminds me of hardcore Sony fans in 1999 before and during the Dreamcast launch. "The Dreamcast is just a slightly better N64, I'm saving my money or waiting a few years, blah blah." And that was a great system with one of, if not the best launch lineup of all time but helmed by Sega, this is Nintendo we're talking about. Wii U launch isn't quite as good as DC's but it's still surprisingly solid and NSMBU alone = instant sales momentum day one. Once parents find out the system is required to play a new Mario game and is also conveniently backwards compatible with all their Wii games and accessories it's going into the shopping cart. End of story.
Ufortunately it's going to take a lot more than A shot in the Dark by Internet folks to sink this launch before it possibly becomes one of the greatest Sellers of all time.
Ufortunately it's going to take a lot more than A shot in the Dark by Internet folks to sink this launch before it possibly becomes one of the greatest Sellers of all time.