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Solo said:
Either X-mas 2015 or Summer 2016. Book it, bitches.
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LOL.

You've got Cameron saying 2015 or later. This is the same guy who said Avatar would be hitting summer 2007 and delayed Titanic a year.

He hasn't even finished writing the scripts yet and has second dive planned I believe.
 
One of my favourite additions of the extended cut is this little scene extension where you see the pilots in the cockpit of the Valkyrie about to disengage from the ISV. It's little touches like this that make the reality of the world a lot more palpable.

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Scullibundo said:
It's little touches like this that make the reality of the world a lot more palpable.
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I wish we could see the same level of love and technical prowess go into more (and riskier) SF projects. There are rich veins of untapped SF concepts to be borrowed from literature, and I really crave some of these being put into fully realized worlds.
 
Cameron going after DAT EXPLODING CHINESE MARKET. He clearly doesn't want to make Avatar sequels until he's laid the ground for them to topple the first film's worldwide record. Wrangling the main Chinese film distributors is a very good move for one.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...-china-jamescameron-3-d-idUSBRE8770AD20120808

Oscar-winning director James Cameron said on Wednesday that he will open a joint venture in China to provide 3-D filming technology, the latest move by Hollywood to secure a foothold in the country's booming movie industry.

Box office revenues -- growing by leaps and bounds in China thanks to its fast-growing middle class -- have whet Hollywood's appetite despite complaints over government restrictions on access to screens, content control and piracy.

CPG China Division, the new arm of Cameron Pace Group, will offer Chinese film makers three-dimensional camera technology but will not be involved immediately in producing films, Cameron told Reuters in an interview.

"We're not going to tell Chinese film makers how to make movies. We are going to help them make a transition to 3D production technology as cost effectively as possible, and in a way that doesn't inhibit creativity," he said.

Three-dimensional films, which enhance depth perception by being shot from two perspectives, gained in popularity during the 2000s and achieved a breakthrough with Cameron's 2009 blockbuster "Avatar", a movie about blue aliens which set a $2.8 billion box office global earnings record.

Cameron also directed the second-highest grossing film of all time, the nautical disaster-romance starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet, "Titanic".

Cameron said the deal was "huge", though he would not give details on the amount of the investment or the venture's equity split with two state-owned entities -- film distributor Tianjin North Film Group and Tianjin Hi-tech Holding Group.

"This is a huge investment for us, as much in sweat equity ... as it is financially," he said, noting that initial projects to "build muscle" will focus on 3-D films highlighting Chinese cities.
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There was another article from yesterday which was pretty interesting as well over at THR:

James Cameron’s Lightstorm Entertainment, has teamed with VFX house Weta Digital and entertainment content software developer Autodesk to develop virtual production technology for use in the production of the planned Avatar sequels.

'Avatar 2' Delayed Until at Least 2015, Says Jon Landau
“Creating the virtual production pipeline on Avatar was a groundbreaking process that only enabled us to scratch the surface of what is possible,” said Cameron in a released statement. “Together with Autodesk and Weta Digital, we have used the knowledge gained from this first experience to clearly define the ideal process and then develop the technology needed to streamline our workflow. With the resulting pipeline, on the Avatar sequels, I will be able to devote more of my energy to the creative side of the moviemaking process, and dig deeper into all that is possible with virtual production.”

The notion of virtual production effectively means that the director and collaborators can see their digital assets in an interactive world live on-set, so they can make creative decisions more quickly.

“After completing Avatar, we had a clear understanding of the developments needed to make the process more creative and efficient,” reads a statement from Joe Letteri, senior digital effects supervisor at Weta Digital, which won an Oscar for its VFX work on Avatar, as is currently working on Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit. “We knew that by bringing the whole digital pipeline more in line with the traditional onset style of shooting we could open up brand new ways for directors like Jim to make their films.”

Some of the tools resulting from the collaboration have been incorporated into the latest versions of certain Autodesk entertainment creation software, such as Motion Builder and Maya, which are on display at CG confab Siggraph. The conference runs through Thursday at the Los Angeles Convention Center.
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Scullibundo said:
Seriously though, no 3D EE is bullshit.
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Is that confirmed? I already have the theatrical cut in 3D. I haven't even watched the extended cut yet because I wanted it in 3D :(
 
StudioTan said:
Is that confirmed? I already have the theatrical cut in 3D. I haven't even watched the extended cut yet because I wanted it in 3D :(
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I think it's pretty much confirmed.

Previously only available to consumers through an exclusive deal with Panasonic, the two-disc Avatar 3D Blu-ray Collector's Edition will feature the original theatrical release and be available in all-new collectible packaging. Seen by more than 310 million people worldwide, the Oscar and Golden Globe winning epic is the highest-grossing film of all time, taking in more than $2.7 billion in worldwide box office. It is also top-selling Blu-ray disc of all time.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93610
 
I've had Avatar 3D for over a year now. I'm looking for cheaper active 3D glasses for Panasonic plasmas. And then there is the rumor saying that Target will get an exclusive version of Avatar 3D with 90 minutes of extra footage. Probably behind the scenes footage which I don't really care for.
 
Virtual advances aid 'Avatar' sequel

"Avatar" and its dazzling effects have come and gone, but the three companies that developed the virtual production tools for that film are pushing them to the next level.
The trio -- James Cameron's Lightstorm Entertainment, Peter Jackson's Weta Digital and vfx software maker Autodesk -- have moved on to the "Avatar" sequels, which like "Avatar" itself, will see the director working with actors situated in a world he cannot see: Pandora.

In making "Avatar," Cameron needed a back-and-forth with the actors that was on the same intimate level he had with Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio in "Titanic," the films' producer Jon Landau says. "In looking toward the next 'Avatar' films, we wanted to be able to work with higher efficiency, see changes on the fly and have a lot less downtime."

It quickly became obvious that filmmakers wanted tools for a virtual camera, a new way to efficiently capture large files in real time and a tool that allows a director to load virtual sets, explore those sets and then makes changes or adjustments on the fly. They're now all present in Autodesk's MotionBuilder 2013 package, after Autodesk set up a system with Lightstorm and Weta that allowed them to experiment and update the software by incorporating quick feedback from the set and the computer screen, says Bruno Sargeant, senior product manager for virtual production at Autodesk.

As a result, filmmakers using the system can immediately view playback of actors within their digital environments and see everything exactly as it will appear on the screen.

Weta Digital chief technology officer Sebastian Sylwan says such collaboration between three companies is rare. "But we're seeing the lines between pre-production, production and post-production collapsing more and more," he says, "so tools like this are very important."

As the distinct stages of production have blurred together, it's also become more important for different departments to be able to work on a film simultaneously, making changes as the director needs them. It's also crucial for any production pipeline to be flexible so that it can accommodate the different work styles of each helmer, Sylwan says.

Initial versions of these advances have already been deployed by Steven Spielberg on "The Adventures of Tin Tin" and Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey." The goal is to make production in virtual space even more filmmaker-centric, according to Landau. In other words, to allow easier interaction between director and thesps, enabling the helmer to quickly make decisions about what is and what is not working in the film's virtual environment.
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Rivyn said:
The worst thing he has ever done? He made over 2 billion with just oné movie. It is the best thing he has ever done.
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By the time all is said and done if really gets these sequels out he's looking at upwards of 6-7 billion from just Avatar in theaters.
 
Strafer said:
With all the success he has, I do wonder if the studios lets him do whatever he wants.
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Well you have FOX waiting what will most likely be eight years between the most successful film ever and its sequel. That is some serious pull. But then I don't think they would ever let him shoot it as an R if he wanted to.
 
Milchjon said:
Kinda sad to see Cameron wasting the rest of his career on the worst thing he's ever done. I'd prefer Titanic II over Avatar 2.
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Yeah, it's pretty sad to see Cameron do this kind of garbage. I want to see him do a smaller scaled picture again, or at least a sequel to one of his good movies.
 
I do feel like he's gotten softer. When he said he would shoot 3D for every picture from now on, then said he probably wouldn't shoot Last Train to Hiroshima in 3D 'because it would be too intense and horrifying) I became really disappointed that he was losing his nerve to confront audiences with something really unsettling.
 
The Mana Legend said:
Yeah, it's pretty sad to see Cameron do this kind of garbage. I want to see him do a smaller scaled picture again, or at least a sequel to one of his good movies.
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I just would like Cameron the writer to match the skill of Cameron the director, as he did with Aliens, T1 and T2 in the late 80s and early 90s. If he can do that, I will enjoy Avatar 2.
 
The Mana Legend said:
Yeah, it's pretty sad to see Cameron do this kind of garbage. I want to see him do a smaller scaled picture again, or at least a sequel to one of his good movies.
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Why? Why smaller scale? How many directors in the world are pushing cinematic technology to new grounds? And how many are doing it at the scale Cameron is? We need MORE people like Cameron.
 
AstroNut325 said:
Why? Why smaller scale? How many directors in the world are pushing cinematic technology to new grounds? And how many are doing it at the scale Cameron is? We need MORE people like Cameron.
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What new grounds? 3D? He's not influencing film at all from an artistic standpoint, and he's certainly not making good movies while doing it.

All he's doing is making a fancy camera and making and improving upon the already existent 3D.

He has all the money he needs, and once his dumb camera/lame 3D fetish is finished, I'd really like to see him actually try to make a real movie this time instead of a technical showcase.
 
The Mana Legend said:
What new grounds? 3D? He's not influencing film at all from an artistic standpoint, and he's certainly not making good movies while doing it.

All he's doing is making a fancy camera and making and improving upon the already existent 3D.

He has all the money he needs, and once his dumb camera/lame 3D fetish is finished, I'd really like to see him actually try to make a real movie this time instead of a technical showcase.
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Wow. You have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about.

Perf-cap system? Simul-cam/virtual cam system?
 
Scullibundo said:
I do feel like he's gotten softer. When he said he would shoot 3D for every picture from now on, then said he probably wouldn't shoot Last Train to Hiroshima in 3D 'because it would be too intense and horrifying) I became really disappointed that he was losing his nerve to confront audiences with something really unsettling.
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Yeah, I really miss the days when I had no idea what type of movie Cameron was going to do. I always knew he would be doing action, but I loved how I would have no idea what the premise of his movies would be. The Terminator being the good guy in T2 was such a damn good twist.
 
The Mana Legend said:
Bra, just technical stuff.

He artistically has no dignity left.
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"Just the technical stuff"??? "Just the technical stuff" is what lead to having motion pictures. That's what led to having sound, color, advanced lighting, and presentation techniques.

And no artistic dignity? On what grounds can you legitimately make such an assertion? Was the world of Pandora not his own creation? His story is simplistic no doubt, but there is MUCH more to a movie beyond a story.
 
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