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[DD]

Well, I'm excited about Horizon. What I really hope to see is a f* huge world to drive on, with good AI, handling and physics (arcadey or not).

Wheather would be nice too.

Ah! Another thing: please, PGG, PLEASE, make a nice carrer mode, let us feel progressing through the game. Don't do it like Criterion does. "Win a race, get a new car, win another race with the new car, so you'll win another car to race an..." NO!.

 

[glaurung]

Well, I'm excited about Horizon. What I really hope to see is a f* huge world to drive on, with good AI, handling and physics (arcadey or not).

I'll go out on a relatively solid limb here and say that there is no huge world to drive in. The tracks are simply padded with a small stretch of drivable green stuff, but if you veer to far off course, you'll be reset back onto the track.

 

[DD]

I'll go out on a relatively solid limb here and say that there is no huge world to drive in. The tracks are simply padded with a small stretch of drivable green stuff, but if you veer to far off course, you'll be reset back onto the track.

Oh, no no, I mean roads. I really don't care if I can enter with the car on the forest if there's notingh to do there. By "huge world" I mean lots of roads to drive in, with different vistas, etc.

 

[Mascot]

Oh, no no, I mean roads. I really don't care if I can enter with the car on the forest if there's notingh to do there. By "huge world" I mean lots of roads to drive in, with different vistas, etc.

I think Burnout Paradise set the bar in this regard. That world was ma-HOOSIVE.
Any word how Horizon compares?

 

[DD]

I think Burnout Paradise set the bar in this regard. That world was ma-HOOSIVE.
Any word how Horizon compares?

Burnout Paradise has a nice world, but I don't think that it's huge, since the cars usually run at insane speeds, so you cross the map really quickly.

 

[Mascot]

Was Hot Pursuit bigger than Paradise? I can't remember.

 

[DD]

Was Hot Pursuit bigger than Paradise? I can't remember.

in terms of mileage, I doubt that, since Paradise had lots of alternative roads, and open city, while Hot Pursuit was road based.

Paradise is a better game IMHO, but I preffer the HP world style, country roads instead of cities. Horizon seems to take that way, but in a higher level (I hope so), so that's why I'm excited about the game. Just don't give me a crappy carrer mode like Criterion did in NFS HP, please PGG...

 

[op_ivy]

those trees... hope thats a by product of zooming in photomode. still, its rally action so i am super excited.

 

[diffusionx]

Paradise's world was pretty small. TDU's was a bit too big. I'm hoping for something in the middle.

I'll never understand why this game isn't marketed as an extension of the PGR family - it seems to me to be a far more appropriate fit.

Because nobody cares about PGR while Forza sold a truckload of copies one year ago.

Forza Horizon - Playground Games - 2012
Forza 5 - Turn 10 - 2013
Forza Horizon 2 - Playground Games - 2014
Forza 6 - Turn 10 - 2015
Forza Horizon 3 - Playground Games - 2016
etc.

?

Obviously, that's not what's going to happen, but would anyone have a problem with this?

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what is going to happen (or something like it).

 

[DD]

Paradise's world was pretty small. TDU's was a bit too big. I'm hoping for something in the middle.

Are you crazy? Bigger is better!

Because nobody cares about PGR while Forza sold a truckload of copies one year ago.

Oh yeah, you ARE crazy.

 

[amar212]

Are you crazy? Bigger is better!

Oh yeah, you ARE crazy.

I agree.

 

[Mascot]

Because nobody cares about PGR

You just made Shaneus's hit list. Ever faced death by boomerang?

 

[op_ivy]

this doesnt fit PGR at all. PGR is all about cities, hence the "gotham" in project gotham racing. also, pretty sure that comment was based on sales, forza is undeniably a bigger name then PGR. lastly, i'm not sure we'd want a PGR without bizarre. i'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

this doesnt fit PGR at all. PGR is all about cities, hence the "gotham" in project gotham racing.

Agreed, if this carried the PGR moniker, it would be pretty... Well, bizarre.

 

[brotkasten]

Because nobody cares about PGR

You know, when I read posts with an unpopular opinion, I usually say something like "Run! I'll try to hold them back! Run, you fool!".

But dude, you're so fucked.

 

[Jamesways]

Horizon will be arcadey, don't worry about that. I believe it uses Forza physics as a basic platform, but heavily tweaks them so that it's easy to powerslide through a picnic area, toppling fence posts and smashing through benches while leaning out of the window high-fiveing a spectator as your big-bore exhaust blows the bikini tops off a couple of cheerleaders.

Last time I tried that in Forza my Xbox red ringed and my TV exploded.

This is quite possibly the best post I've read in any racing thread. Amazing. I can't stop laughing.

So more extreme than Dirt 3 compadre? I don't know...


This falls racing releases are pretty thin. So I'll for sure pick it up. Lord knows we ain't getting any tracks for the other Turn 10 game.

And nobody cares about PGR? What the hell?

 

[soundscream]

Because nobody cares about PGR

Take it back!

 

[derFeef]

 

[diffusionx]

Calm down people.

I loved PGR4. But the game was a huge bomb. And it came out 5 years ago. The last popular PGR game came out in 2005. Versus the last popular Forza that came out in 2011.

You are Microsoft. You are investing $10 million plus into a new racing game. You want to attach it to an existing franchise for name recognition. Your choice is a franchise that is currently extremely popular and one of your platform's tentpoles. Or, a franchise whose last game was a five-year old bomb.

HMMMM.

 

[TheOddOne]

Calm down people.

I loved PGR4. But the game was a huge bomb. And it came out 5 years ago. The last popular PGR game came out in 2005. Versus the last popular Forza that came out in 2011.

You are Microsoft. You are investing $10 million plus into a new racing game. You want to attach it to an existing franchise for name recognition. Your choice is a franchise that is currently extremely popular and one of your platform's tentpoles. Or, a franchise whose last game was a five-year old bomb.

HMMMM.

Or you could not launch PGR against a tentpole Halo release. Hey, maybe it would actually sell then.

 

[diffusionx]

Or you could not launch PGR against a tentpole Halo release. Hey, maybe it would actually sell then.

Building a time machine and going back in time to 2007 is not really an option here.

 

[derFeef]

Or you could not launch PGR against a tentpole Halo release. Hey, maybe it would actually sell then.

Well, when is Horizon coming out? There is always a chance! :/

 

[TheOddOne]

Building a time machine and going back in time to 2007 is not really an option here.

Learning from mistakes and actually putting in some effort can do wonders.

 

[diffusionx]

Learning from mistakes and actually putting in some effort can do wonders.

I don't know how to respond to this. I was talking about why I thought this game was tied in to Forza and not PGR.

Today, in 2012: Forza brand is extremely relevant and popular while PGR is irrelevant. The decisions of 2007 do not matter one bit with regards to the decisions of 2012.

I think Forza Horizon is going to do just fine, unless it's a total turd. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[NullPointer]

I think Forza Horizon is going to do just fine, unless it's a total turd. I'm looking forward to it.

Same here, and I think you'll see more hype for it when they release more meaningful media.

 

[Mascot]

I just realised I nabbed Horizon for £18 (along with Halo 4 and Borderlands 2) in the recent Argos pre-order pricing clusterfuck. Looks like they are going to honour it, too.

I now LOVE this game! Woooooooo!

 

[Shortt Sirket]

I didn't see it posted, but they announced the Forza Horizon VIP cars here:

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Forza_Horizon_VIP_Cars/

VIP Car Pack – The five-car VIP pack is only available with the Limited Collector’s Edition of Forza Horizon and includes the following cars:
- 2012 Audi R8 GT Spyder
- 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
- 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
- 2012 Pagani Huayra
- 2011 RUF Rt 12 R

They are also doing reveals, starting this week:

Forza Horizon Car Roster Reveal: Forza fans should be on the lookout this week for the beginning of the “Forza Horizon” car roster reveal. Beginning on Thursday, Aug. 23, we will be revealing “Forza Horizon” cars on a daily basis, showcasing all of the incredible vehicles players will be able to collect, customize, and drive in the game. By following the official "Forza Motorsport" Twitter and Facebook feeds, fans will get daily updates on new car announcements, along with new screenshots of the cars and the chance to win “Forza Horizon” prizes.

 

[xam3l]

Why?
Why not make a pack of different versions of cars instead of fully new models like the Huayra?

I really hate pre-orders and LE editions.

 

[Paladin CL]

I dont care much about those cars, the Audi R8 GT would have been awesome.. but they choose the Spider version and i HATE it.

Also im hoping we dont get the whole No Porsche again from EA, having a Ruf in that VIP pack instead of Porsche make me think this could be the case again and all the rumor about Forza getting a longer license deal were just rumors.

 

[Mascot]

I didn't see it posted, but they announced the Forza Horizon VIP cars here:

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Forza_Horizon_VIP_Cars/

VIP Car Pack – The five-car VIP pack is only available with the Limited Collector’s Edition of Forza Horizon and includes the following cars:
- 2012 Audi R8 GT Spyder
- 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
- 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
- 2012 Pagani Huayra
- 2011 RUF Rt 12 R

They are also doing reveals, starting this week:

Aaaaaaaaaaaand... The bullshit begins.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Why?
Why not make a pack of different versions of cars instead of fully new models like the Huayra?

To get you to buy it, duh.

 

[op_ivy]

I didn't see it posted, but they announced the Forza Horizon VIP cars here:

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Forza_Horizon_VIP_Cars/

VIP Car Pack – The five-car VIP pack is only available with the Limited Collector’s Edition of Forza Horizon and includes the following cars:
- 2012 Audi R8 GT Spyder
- 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
- 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
- 2012 Pagani Huayra
- 2011 RUF Rt 12 R

They are also doing reveals, starting this week:

and the pics

 

[derFeef]

Cars! In the same place on every photo!

 

[Shortt Sirket]

Cars! In the same place on every photo!

And it is a terrible place honestly. The lighting looks weird and honestly makes some of the cars (Sesto Elemento) just look really bad.

 

[brotkasten]

And it is a terrible place honestly. The lighting looks weird and honestly makes some of the cars (Sesto Elemento) just look really bad.

It's not the game that makes the Lambo look bad. I blame the designer of the car.

e: Also, piss filter.

 

[DocSeuss]

It's not the game that makes the Lambo look bad. I blame the designer of the car.

e: Also, piss filter.

The designer of--did... did you... I don't

what

It's a Lamborghini

 

[brotkasten]

It's a Lamborghini

That sums up the problem quite nicely. Almost as ugly as that Pagani.

Almost.

 

[zorbsie]

Can't really tell for sure, but the lambo looks like it has a matte paintjob. Hopefully we get a matte paint option for all cars this time. Wait, are cars customizable in horizon? I feel so out of the loop.

 

[op_ivy]

Can't really tell for sure, but the lambo looks like it has a matte paintjob. Hopefully we get a matte paint option for all cars this time. Wait, are cars customizable in horizon? I feel so out of the loop.

looks like it did in fm4

 

[Paladin CL]

Some cars in Forza 3-4 have matte options, like the Aventador.

 

[G Rom]

I like the fact that it's a Spyder version of the R8 GT. I so loved cruising around in spyders in TDU and NFS:HP.

Hopefully we'll get this :

I want to hear the V8 scream !

VIP offering is really weak though. It's like they ran out of cars to put in the VIP car pack. I mean, the Rt 12 R was already in FM4's VIP pack and the Agera was in the Launch Bonus pack...
I'll probably get the LCE anyway but I hope to get a good price on it this time as I really don't know if I'll put as many hours as FM4 in FH.

 

[Xanadu]

That sums up the problem quite nicely. Almost as ugly as that Pagani.

Almost.

let me guess, mustang fan?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

- 2012 Pagani Huayra

LCE bought.

 

[zorbsie]

I know matte paint was an option on some cars in Forza 4, but it wasn't a global option for all cars. I want a matte black Ford GT. I think the matte option in F4 was only there if it was an optional colour from the manufacturer.

 

[Xanadu]

I know matte paint was an option on some cars in Forza 4, but it wasn't a global option for all cars. I want a matte black Ford GT. I think the matte option in F4 was only there if it was an optional colour from the manufacturer.

yes, forza is stupid with stuff like that

 

[Mascot]

VIP bullshit is bullshit.
Pay extra to get the things we took out of the game to make you pay extra for them. And hope you don't notice.

Fucking game industry is corrupt. Makes me bastard angry.

 

[Xanadu]

VIP bullshit is bullshit.
Pay extra to get the things we took out of the game to make you pay extra for them. And hope you don't notice.

Fucking game industry is corrupt. Makes me bastard angry.

its only some companies, you dont see valve doing things like that

 

[Paladin CL]

I know matte paint was an option on some cars in Forza 4, but it wasn't a global option for all cars. I want a matte black Ford GT. I think the matte option in F4 was only there if it was an optional colour from the manufacturer.

Probably something to do with the lightning, im thinking that all those matte cars must have been tunned manually to work right, when other cars just addapt to the light around them.

About the spiders, i HATE them, i dont know why open world games choose them so much, its not like you can feel the air againts your head or any freedom, spider and covertible cars just look incomplete to me, plus is always better having a roof for racing.

 

[Xanadu]

Probably something to do with the lightning, im thinking that all those matte cars must have been tunned manually to work right, when other cars just addapt to the light around them.

About the spiders, i HATE them, i dont know why open world games choose them so much, its not like you can feel the air againts your head or any freedom, spider and covertible cars just look incomplete to me, plus is always better having a roof for racing.

i guess its so in cockpit view you can hear the exhaust more, i guess

 

[brotkasten]

let me guess, mustang fan?

Yes, because I don't like two ugly Italian sport cars, I'm obviously a muscle car fan.

You hurt my feelings.