Roland Garros
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That gif does not help your argument. That sort of stuff is precisely why I can't stand watching it. Too brutal.
What is it that people enjoy about MMA/Cage fighting
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That gif does not help your argument. That sort of stuff is precisely why I can't stand watching it. Too brutal.
That's fun, too. We like to play a game in my household with football games: when you see a guy who obviously isn't wearing a cup, you call-out which way he's hangin'. Bonus points if you can tell his religion!
What is it that mma fans love about their sport?
The rest of you can enjoy watching grown men playing with rubber balls who love patting each others asses and flexing all tough and shit when they score a point. Its adorable really. Someone ought to give them a treat.
Terry NOOOooooo!
I can still appreciate that KO despite him knocking out one of my favourite prospects.
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Ninja Scooter
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Some of you people need to be introduced to XARM. It's the future of sport.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Way ahead of you on that. Don't forget YAMMA!
Harold Clarence Howard is your huckleberry
If you're comin' on, COME ON!
Redneck Karate!
Was this a serious post?
I guarantee you that guy wont be eating cereal wearing a crash helmet in 20 years like your average football player will.
Freshmaker
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Nah. The guy he was fighting was a toothpick with barely any MMA experience. (He lied about it to get on The Ultimate Fighter. Why Dana didn't just boot him once that came out I dunno.) He had very little conditioning so he was in effect extra fragile.
Nastiest part of that sequence is he doesn't realize his leg got broken. He tried to scoop the guy's kick and stepped back only to have his new rubber leg roll under him rather than support his weight.
polyh3dron
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This. Football players endure this kind of punishment every Sunday during the season. An MMA fighter will be on a mandatory 90 day suspension after being KO'd like this (if not longer) and these guys fight 3 times a year on average.
What is it that mma fans love about their sport?
The rest of you can enjoy watching grown men playing with rubber balls who love patting each others asses and flexing all tough and shit when they score a point. Its adorable really. Someone ought to give them a treat.
You're not serious, right?
Don't turn on other sports because uninformed people are bashing MMA. Bad look there.
I wanted to say the good old-fashioned ultraviolence, but that's not true.
MMA today is a sanitized, modern, thoroughly civilized incarnation of competitive combat that could date as far back as the almost 2,700 year old pankration matches in ancient Greece. You get all the fun and excitement without much of the risk. The violence is sanitized as much as you can without faking it or filming a reenactment of it. Those are fun, too, which is why I enjoy martial arts movies.
Saying the violence is what makes it enjoyable (almost all acts in the cage are encompassed by this, by the way, it's just that the submissions and KO's are the highest form allowed by the rules) - it makes people uncomfortable because they've been brought up to believe that violence is inherently wrong, bad or just downright evil. And that's an unfounded - backwards - moral valuation.
MMA today is a sanitized, modern, thoroughly civilized incarnation of competitive combat that could date as far back as the almost 2,700 year old pankration matches in ancient Greece. You get all the fun and excitement without much of the risk. The violence is sanitized as much as you can without faking it or filming a reenactment of it. Those are fun, too, which is why I enjoy martial arts movies.
Saying the violence is what makes it enjoyable (almost all acts in the cage are encompassed by this, by the way, it's just that the submissions and KO's are the highest form allowed by the rules) - it makes people uncomfortable because they've been brought up to believe that violence is inherently wrong, bad or just downright evil. And that's an unfounded - backwards - moral valuation.
You do know that grappling is a martial art right? And really effective.
Are you for real? Wrestling is fake. A long time a go wrestling was real. It was catch wrestling, but those days are long gone. I would bet 90%+ of wrestling entertainers don't know catch wrestling.
Some people just genuinely dont like seeing others getting hurt. I've known people who could barely watch those America's Funniest Home Video ones where people would get hurt. Its often a sympathetic response more than some moral decision.
Host Samurai
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Can't believe I missed this thread. Too late to the party. Wut up MMA-GaF?
Why do you have to imply that people who watch MMA are gay by saying it is just about watching 2 half-naked guys rolling on the floor?
You seem to be some kind of homophobe who can't understand a good ground game.
That depends, have you been banned recently? That's an entrance requirement.
polyh3dron
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which makes me the king
Buddha Beam
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I didn't, and if you think that, that's all on you, chief.
Nice. I always wondered if that was a part of the exam.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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No, you seem to equate MMA with homosexual behavior and that somehow being a negative behavior.
I think yacofriend has taken over the #1 p4p spot.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Not if I start posting more often. I get Emperor status. lol
Buddha Beam
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So you're trying to judge me... based on one sentence that you're trying to take out of context? Why? To get me banned or something?
No. I'm not getting roped into this discussion. Forget it.
The not understanding a good ground game is exactly the problem for a lot of people. If you're uneducated on the subject, it really is just two half-naked dudes rolling around on the ground to their eyes, which unless they ARE gay, probably isn't immediately appealing. I was the same way when I first started watching and it was definitely a barrier that had to be overcome. You have to learn the intricacies of it before it becomes something entertaining.
killamajig
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Then you must not enjoy other men's sports like Olympic swimming because it's just guys half naked in a pool together.
Racing is a bit easier to understand than grappling.
P4p is bullshit and you know it.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Don't forget recognized diving where they all chill in the hot tube afterwords to stay warm.
How is your homophobia being misconstrued. I wonder what you would say about Takada banging on the drum during a PRIDE opening
Tapped
Just gave this a watch. This is the kind of fight I like to see; stand up most of the way. If more were like this, I would watch more MMA fights.
You'd think kickboxing would be more popular given how prevalent this attitude towards grappling is.
Not finding half-naked dudes rolling around on the ground appealing is not being homophobic. Stop that shit, seriously. He's right to avoid a bullshit argument like this.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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It's the fact that that reason for MMA not appealing to him and sticks out the most. If he had said it's boring, grappling is dull, too many stoppages, or just people rolling around on the with no standup, that's different, for him it's because they're "half naked dudes"
Half naked dudes rolling around on the ground. Ask him if he's got a problem with boxing and I'll bet he doesn't even though thats also half-naked dudes. The grappling part definitely puts a lot of people off, and them being half-naked makes it even less appealing. Its the combination of the two things.
I'm not homophobic and I had the same problem with it at first. I just didn't like watching it. Not in a 'eeewwww, guys touching each other' way, but in a 'what the fuck am I watching' way. Wasn't until my roommate(wrestler in high school) started explaining more of the deeper aspects of grappling did I come to get past it and appreciate it.
You're really being judgemental here and not giving any benefit of the doubt, which is really unfair.
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MMA is great for so many reasons:
First and foremost there are few things as pure and dramatic to watch as one-on-one competition. Two men enter the ring/octagon, at the end one man will have his hand raised in victory - that's exciting and special, particularly if you have respect for their will/skill and understand the amount of effort and training it takes to reach their level.
Then there's the sheer number of skills and disciplines involved in MMA, each one of which is deep enough for many to take a career to master. Striking, grappling, submission fighting are all distinct and involved sports in their own right, and in combination make for a remarkably broad base of aspects to admire and discuss.
I'm a long time combat-sport fan, and am proud to have watched every UFC since day #1. Over that time its been fascinating to watch how its evolved as a sport and as a cultural phenomenon. That evolution alone marks MMA out as being quite unique, the changing rules and regulations have made certain forms/styles more effective in a competitive sense, but the way its acted as a kind of petri-dish for contrasting many traditional martial-arts is absolutely fascinating.
Great stuff. Especially as your knowledge grows as a spectator and you find more and more to admire technically above and beyond the whole controlled aggression and heroic levels of toughness and bravery aspects.
First and foremost there are few things as pure and dramatic to watch as one-on-one competition. Two men enter the ring/octagon, at the end one man will have his hand raised in victory - that's exciting and special, particularly if you have respect for their will/skill and understand the amount of effort and training it takes to reach their level.
Then there's the sheer number of skills and disciplines involved in MMA, each one of which is deep enough for many to take a career to master. Striking, grappling, submission fighting are all distinct and involved sports in their own right, and in combination make for a remarkably broad base of aspects to admire and discuss.
I'm a long time combat-sport fan, and am proud to have watched every UFC since day #1. Over that time its been fascinating to watch how its evolved as a sport and as a cultural phenomenon. That evolution alone marks MMA out as being quite unique, the changing rules and regulations have made certain forms/styles more effective in a competitive sense, but the way its acted as a kind of petri-dish for contrasting many traditional martial-arts is absolutely fascinating.
Great stuff. Especially as your knowledge grows as a spectator and you find more and more to admire technically above and beyond the whole controlled aggression and heroic levels of toughness and bravery aspects.
Johnlenham
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This guy is such a beast and fun to watch. The last guy he fought it looked like he was going to lose then complete 180 and wrecked the guy.
Anderson Silva - "He is the greatest in the world."
Anderson Silva - "He is the greatest in the world."
polyh3dron
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your logic and rationality has no place here among these savages
TheKaeptain
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Muffdraul
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I've honestly never seen the appeal in any sport. When I was a kid I thought something was wrong with me because it seemed like everyone else in the world gave a huge shit about Thurmon Munson's batting average and how many yards were scrimmaged on Monday Night Football. All I cared about were spaceships and robots and laser beams.
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No doubt. I for one would watch kickboxing/Muay Thai all the time if it were on tv. I never seem to see any on, though.
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TheFightingFish
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I can see a bit of this, grappling can be very interesting, but hard to figure out what is going on to the viewer at times. I'm not an MMA fan (not that I have anything against it, I just don't watch) but I was a wrestler up to the collegiate level. And while I love wrestling I can't argue that it doesn't make for the most exciting sport on TV, especially to the uninformed viewer.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Umm youtube Muay Thai TV. Muay Thai airs on several channels each week in Thailand and gets uploaded in full to youtube.
Well he's not a Pride fan like we are.
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