Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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Guesong said:
Walt is out, fellows. No tricks to it.

Symbolism was there ; when we see the shot of Walt going into the medical scanner, upside down, then slowly rotating so that we see him straight again. Perfect imagery.

Cancer made him break bad ; cancer also made him break good.
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OK, he's out, and Todd is running the business as the cook. And now the new overlords must take out Walt as he knows too much. It will be the same thing Walt has done to everyone, and it will now be his turn.

Edit - Especially if they find out they are tailing Walt or that his brother in law works for the DEA. Just like what happened to Mike. Seeing as their families always are hanging out, all they would have to do is keep an eye on him for a week and find this. Walt will run not from the DEA but the empire he created, which will be his death.
 
JasonMCG said:
The more I think about it, the more I really dislike the way Hank finds out. That's some hamfisted deus ex machina if you ask me.

Do we ever see Gale give Walt the book or is the first time we ever see it is when Walt unpacks?
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As someone already said, the book is in season 3 as well.

Anyway, I think it's perfect. Walt himself was the last loose end he forgot to tie up.
 
dave is ok said:
Hank is too smart to confront Walt right away. He's going to keep an eye on him and look for more evidence - but seeing as Walt is "out". He won't have anything.

There you go, exactly how 6.01 and 6.02 will play out
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You guys are forgetting that this whole season has been about Walt giving up entirely on subterfuge, which he was never very good at to begin with. Once Hank just considers the possibility, all kinds of unexplained evidence will turn up. Those cars were paid for with cash!

Hell, in extremis, he's still got that video tape of Walt stealing the barrel in season 1.
 
Puddles said:
Would anyone have been upset if the series had just ended with the BBQ, and Hank had never found that book? Obviously in this timeline, the season opening scene wouldn't have happened either.
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How about this:

How absolutely pissed would everyone be if the entire series ended simply with Hank finding the book and that expression?
 
Puddles said:
Would anyone have been upset if the series had just ended with the BBQ, and Hank had never found that book? Obviously in this timeline, the season opening scene wouldn't have happened either.
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I'm not against there being a "victorious" ending for Walt, but if it ended exactly like this without the cliffhanger, it would be a little empty, thematically.

On the other hand, "I won" would have made a suitable series finale, if it were necessary.
 
Angry Fork said:
This stuff I expected though. Basically the episode felt like it had nothing out of the blue or any major curve balls. Skylar wasn't killed, Walt didn't turn into a fugitive or anything. What happened made sense within the story but was tame by normal breaking bad standards imo.



Yea transitional is the best way to describe it I think and why it wasn't as high octane as other BB episodes.
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Walt didn't turn into a fugitive, but he masterminded a mass killing spree in the span of 2 minutes across multiple locations...

That in itself is pretty amazing.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
but how long before hank confronts walt. he obviously doesn't have enough proof right now
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Was thinking about that, if you were Hank in that instance, what would you do? If it was me, in order to try and not rouse suspicion, I rip that page out of the book, shove it in my pocket and get the handwriting analyzed to match it with Gale's diary.
 
Forsaken82 said:
Walt didn't turn into a fugitive, but he masterminded a mass killing spree in the span of 2 minutes across multiple locations...

That in itself is pretty amazing.
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He bought a mass killing spree. He did not mastermind it. T'was Todd's uncle who had to figure out a way, as Walt eloquently put.
 
Dany M said:
Walt is the silent guardian, a watchful meth cook. He is running because they have to chase him. He is the Blue Knight
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:lol

Strangely I can actually see this being the end to the series. Kind of gives it a Shield type of closure to the show, where Walt isn't killed or imprisoned but rather he loses everything and gains nothing but having to look over his shoulder every second of the day -- his life just sucks major ass until his eventual death.

That's a fate Walt more than deserves.
 
This season felt like it had a rushed progression throughout...I know obviously it's an 8 part season and thus a lot of condensing...but you would think the production team would care and want to see the show finish up in a well rounded manner...
 
F#A#Oo said:
This season felt like it had a rushed progression throughout...I know obviously it's an 8 part season and thus a lot of condensing...but you would think the production team would care and want to see the show finish up in a well rounded manner...
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Season isn't really over yet this ending felt like every other midpoint for this show.
 
F#A#Oo said:
This season felt like it had a rushed progression throughout...I know obviously it's an 8 part season and thus a lot of condensing...but you would think the production team would care and want to see the show finish up in a well rounded manner...
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The show isn't finished though.

There are 8 more episodes next year.
 
NaughtyCalibur said:
:lol

Strangely I can actually see this being the end to the series. Kind of gives it a Shield type of closure to the show, where Walt isn't killed or imprisoned but rather he loses everything and gains nothing but having to look over his shoulder every second of the day -- his life just sucks major ass until his eventual death.

That's a fate Walt more than deserves.
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I can see this. He's feeling right now like his family is on its way to coming back. He is feeling secure with everything he's done. All of that will be ripped away from him. The AZ guys aren't going to take kindly to not being supplied anymore and are going to come looking. Hank will mount a full on DEA investigation to mount evidence, and find it. Skylar will somehow be hurt in the process or leave him entirely. Jesse gets caught in the crossfire. Walt remains on the run without being able to go to chemo and just buying time before the cancer comes back.
 
i have a feeling that the next eight episodes will be way more complicated than we are all anticipating. hank will look like a complete ass if he turns walt in; he accepted his money to pay for his recovery and watched walt's kids for months while walt was off running his empire. not to mention, maybe the DEA and gomie wouldn't even believe hank's theory about walt.

i still think some unexpected danger will arise. maybe todd needs walt again to help him cook, he refuses and his uncle's prison gang starts going after him? or maybe lydia needs walt's product and she becomes a threat? maybe declan and his people want walt to start cooking again?

there are so many ways they can go with the next eight episodes, I really doubt it will be simply a hank crime solving story.
 
Just watched the finale.

I NEED TO GO LY DOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

and guys, the reaction pages for the final minutes of the episode....the best in GAF history.

makes E3 reaction posts look lol worthy in comparison.
 
Pegasoos said:
The show isn't finished though.

There are 8 more episodes next year.
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I know that...

What I'm saying is it doesn't feel as fleshed out as previous seasons...the czech business connection, declan business connection, the real effect on madrigal, this 3 month flash to the future with nothing inbetween happening? A week is a lot in BB and they skip 3 months? very little jesse essentially being relegated to smaller role.

The list is long and I can't be alone in thinking this season is off in pacing and progression...
 
Baconsaurus said:
It's kinda anti-climatic that Hank found out this way. I mean, reading the thank you message from Gale while he's doing a number two.
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To me it shows that Walt is, one by one, paying for the crimes of murder. We all liked Gale a lot, and it was sad to see him go, yet we ended up forgetting about him. This is his vengeance.
 
When Hank was sitting on the toilet and picked up that first magazine my thinking was he'd hear a hail of gunfire or an explosion and screaming coming from the back yard

VINCE GILLIGAN
 
Spectral Glider said:
Was thinking about that, if you were Hank in that instance, what would you do? If it was me, in order to try and not rouse suspicion, I rip that page out of the book, shove it in my pocket and get the handwriting analyzed to match it with Gale's diary.
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Inadmissible due to illegal search and seizure right?
 
What if Hank suffers from a panic attack, on the toilet. He's had a history of it due to work-related stress, and the combination of the prison murders and this discovery might be enough to trigger a serious attack. The family finds him lying on the bathroom floor, and Walt notices the book on the ground, opened to that page. Feasible?
 
The real question will be how much does Hank value and care for his family.

He could bury Walter, but this will obviously tear the family apart.

This is why I think he will confront Walt, privately face to face. That scenario would obviously also be favourable to Walt as it will give him the opportunity to try and wriggle out of it.
 
The Horror the horror said:
What if Hank suffers from a panic attack, on the toilet. He's had a history of it due to work-related stress, and the combination of the prison murders and this discovery might be enough to trigger a serious attack. The family finds him lying on the bathroom floor, and Walt notices the book on the ground, opened to that page. Feasible?
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Lol. Cause of death: Constipation > Heart Attack
 
I can't believe Gilligan wanted 13 episodes to finish it all. 8 episodes later, and everything is moving so fast.
 
Do you guys remember that scene with Hank comforting/talking to Walt during his wedding? I really liked that scene. It may have been a webisode
 
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F#A#Oo said:
I know that...

What I'm saying is it doesn't feel as fleshed out as previous seasons...the czech business connection, declan business connection, the real effect on madrigal, this 3 month flash to the future with nothing inbetween happening? A week is a lot in BB and they skip 3 months? very little jesse essentially being relegated to smaller role.

The list is long and I can't be alone in thinking this season is off in pacing and progression...
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Yup. The thing is, it started out kind of slow, like they were still working with a 13 episode order. Then they started speeding everything up. What happened is that we ended up with 8 episodes that were dedicated to Walter White's story getting interrupted by the rest of the cast. Trying to flesh out the rest of the cast in 8 episodes while still getting Walt from A to B didn't work as well as it could have.

Season could have used a few more episodes or just some better plot management.

Weakest season, but this is Breaking Bad so it's still a hell of a lot better than pretty much everything else out there.
 
M_Night said:
The real question will be how much does Hank value and care for his family.

He could bury Walter, but this will obviously tear the family apart.

This is why I think he will confront Walt, privately face to face. That scenario would obviously also be favourable to Walt as it will give him the opportunity to try and wriggle out of it.
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Say what? You don't think in such a scenario where Walt knows that Hank has found out, that Walt would kill him? I have no doubt that he would if the opportunity presented itself.
 
Dude just finds out the person he's been looking for the past year and a half is his brother-in-law, and he's taking a shit in his house.

Poor Hank :lol
 
Puddles said:
Would anyone have been upset if the series had just ended with the BBQ, and Hank had never found that book? Obviously in this timeline, the season opening scene wouldn't have happened either.
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Fuck yes I'd have been upset come on puddles even for you that wouldn't have been satisfying. stunted as hell
Davedough said:
Yes, Season 3.
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I think people have gone back and checked and we never actually see Gale give the book to Walt, but we see him have it? I dunno
 
Would it be so hard for Walt to explain the Gale connection?


"We're chemists and he helped me some when I was still teaching at the high school, but I cut off contact after he seemed a bit obsessed with me. I didn't bring it up during the investigation because I was internally conflicted and didn't know anything concrete."
 
I wasn't able to watch the episode until very early this morning, but I just went back and read all the posts in here from last night. Man, the obvious things people miss... A suggestion: For the final eight episodes, skip posting on GAF at the same time and actually watch them — I promise you'll enjoy it more!

I thought the episode was excellent, and one of the best of the first eight (if not the best outright). It may have been one of the best-directed episodes of the entire series — Michelle MacLaren is a master. I had thought that the season so far had been lacking in the time-lapse and POV shots that they do so well, but this episode alone made up for that, ha. Beautiful stuff.
 
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