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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC
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Well, to be fair I never said that him getting Walt to drive him around was in and of itself evidence. It was the moments Morris played when he dealt with Walt that I was in the middle of talking about.
Infinite Justice
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these pics are always awesome
I must say im happy how Hank finds out.
He did as a brother in law, a family member, not with Gomez as a DEA Officer.
Much more freedom for him to act.
I really liked Hanks charakter evolving around S3 (minerals vs rocks) and im sure the next episodes will focus on him.
btw im sure the cold opening has to do with the other meth crew walt was working for.
He did as a brother in law, a family member, not with Gomez as a DEA Officer.
Much more freedom for him to act.
I really liked Hanks charakter evolving around S3 (minerals vs rocks) and im sure the next episodes will focus on him.
btw im sure the cold opening has to do with the other meth crew walt was working for.
Fail. They completely reversed the RV convo and Jesse had nothing to do with dipping sticks scene.
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Yeah this was the worst one so far.
I think I may have missed the mythical dipping sticks scene.
Was it when Walt brought Skyler the pizza?
Yeah, the dipping sticks had a microphone bug in them that Hank planted to keep tabs on Heisenberg.
I think what's happened here is that Walt has found out the cancer has returned, looking at the hand towel dispenser is him reflecting back on when he was in remission from season 1. Full circle I guess.
Infinite Justice
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i saw the dipping sticks as walts way for forgiveness in this comic (he tries it with skyler, now with jesse)
The RV switch i can agree with since Jesse hardly said anything until walt brought it up
[Walter sees Jesse sneak into his backyard]
Walter: You can't be serious. What the hell are you doing here?
Jesse: Yo, I waited 'til the ball buster left. I mean, no offense.
Walter: Who sent you? You wearing a wire? You setting me up?
Jesse: A wire? You want a wire? I got a wire. [grabs crotch] Speak into the mic, bitch! What the hell's wrong with you? A wire.
Walter: You can't be serious. What the hell are you doing here?
Jesse: Yo, I waited 'til the ball buster left. I mean, no offense.
Walter: Who sent you? You wearing a wire? You setting me up?
Jesse: A wire? You want a wire? I got a wire. [grabs crotch] Speak into the mic, bitch! What the hell's wrong with you? A wire.
I thought it couldn't possibly be that scene. It's funny, but Christ, is it meme-worthy?
Well there's a 1 two punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaJ18VNcOzI the throwing afterward kind of holds it up higher.
Robot Pants
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I wonder how many takes it took to get that pizza to stay up there like that
Infinite Justice
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Mind you it was on a wire.
Robot Pants
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Take it back.
Mr. Saturn
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Never mind, I was beaten to the punch.
Sorry, I do take it back. I misremembered an interview where they said they were prepared to pull it up if they had to.
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Season 4, Bullet Points.
For what it's worth, I fully agree with you. There have been multiple times over the series where it has been evident that Hank has been suspicious of Walt, and his being Heisenberg. No, he's never blatantly said it, but that's the genius of how the characters are portrayed in this series, the talent of the actors, and the fantastic writing. Of course, no scene expressed this more blatantly than the scene in the flashback here. Hank's face, when he says "Walter White" completely changes. It was like he finally had a chance to speak what he has been suspecting, but could do so in a way where Walt could interpret it as him joking. It was like he was getting something off of his back, finally...
I think it's fairly obvious that Hank fully suspects Walt, if not fully on believe him to be guilty. I think his close personal ties to him, being such close family and all, is acting as a roadblock in his mind from fully admitting what he knows deep down. Hank isn't a moron, he can put all of the pieces of the puzzle together. I would list them all but you all already know it. Heck, didn't Hank go through a period of dragging Walt around here and there while investigating everything asking for his help. That came across to me as Hank trying to break down those roadblocks in his mind, but still couldn't do it.
He was waiting for something to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt since it would be something so devastating to the entire family to mention it otherwise. The final scene of this last episode has pushed him over the edge, and will now not stop until he learns the truth.
Oh, and I loved this...
Do you mean the book?
I think 3.6 Sunset
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Was re-watching the opening scene of 5.01. It definitely looks he has some sort of wire on his chest.
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I disagree entirely with the notion that Hank has known Walt is Heisenberg all along, even on a sub conscious level. I think at most Hank knew there was something up with Walt and his strange behavior, but that's quite a bit different from assuming he's Heisenberg. Like maharq said, you can clearly see the gears turning in Hank's head, but I believe they were turning trying to figure out Walt's strange and erratic behavior more than anything.
Red Liquorice
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He's been giving those strange "thoughtful" looks all season, this definately was the evidence he needed to turn the hunch in the back of his mind into something more.
I can see a piece of paper that says(its a little small and fuzzy) :
"Keep an eye on Walt*, he may be cooking methods and disolvning people -HS**
*Walter HEISENBERG White
**Hank DEA Schrader
Infinite Justice
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Indeed since he doesn't even know how to use it LOL
I see a ripped off page of a book. It's a little hard to read, but I think I can make out:
"Wow. That sure was a deus ex machina, wasn't it, old buddy Walt? Or should I say, Heisenberg, who is who I thought you were since the beginning. I just never told anyone LOL.
-Hanksta
P.S. I clogged your toilet"
Skyler: My God, Walt? Is that you? What are you doing back?
Walt: I got dipping sticks.
*bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang*
machine gun
well it seems like you are arguing that, because "contrived" and "deus ex machina" are not the same thing, despite "contrived" being within the definition of the latter. Walt's plan was convoluted and chancy and risky (fits his MO for the entire series). It working was highly improbable. It was not suddenly solved by a new plot device. Even the lily of the valley had been introduced before
yet again: cheapness is a whole separate thing. I (and many others) see it as the one tiny niggle that will lead to Walt's downfall, a general concept that's been a threat for the entire run of the show. it is not a deus ex machina.
He hasn't really exhibited evidence-wiping behavior. if that were true he'd never accept Jesse's watch, never allow a storage unit containing millions of dollars be connected to him, never allow a money-laundering car wash be in his name, etc. He was never without risks. He did make himself as clean as he could, yes. But nobody is perfect, especially Walt. He is shown over the series to repeatedly slip up and have to take more and more drastic measures. He slipped up here.
When he cleaned up his house in the season 5 premiere, he had just killed a man and poisoned a child. In the end of last nights episode, he hadn't been under any pressure for months. Circumstances changed.
emphasis on subconsciously. he wasn't conscious of his own suspicion. I feel it's even a stretch to say that it was in the back of his mind and I don't think he suspected Walt ever, but it's not an incorrect reading of the show if that's how Norris was playing it.
I'd say the evidence is not conclusive. It's helping Hank form a theory, but it's not conclusive. Sure as hell wouldn't hold up in court.
It is a "contrived" event in the sense that it is a coincidence, but merely being coincidental doesn't rob an event of dramatic value. coincidence is vital to dramatic writing.
If the coincidence felt artificial or forced to a person, I'd understand them not liking it. It didn't feel that way to me because the show has established over and over how little loose ends can snowball, how Walt is not the most careful person, and how Hank is a surprisingly good detective who recalls most details. Also, the show has had the threat of one small problem leading to the unravelling of Walt's operation/life hanging over it since the beginning. So, to me, it was a payoff. A logical coincidence.
That's where these two sides differ and there's no real way to bridge that gap. Most found the discovery consistent and natural, I've explained several times why I find it to be a logical result of the previous events in the show. You found it forced. Difference of opinions.
As for the "opinion is from neptune" line you keep regurgitating: it's sort of obtuse and oddly biting, but I think you're trying to say "you all think my opinion is an outlier, but CLEARLY I'm not crazy come on!" However your opinion is factually an outlier. You are the minority. In the sense that majority opinions are from Earth and minority opinions are from Neptune, your opinion is indeed from Neptune. Now, in the sense that your opinion is crazy? You're on Earth, don't worry. Anyone who calls a person holding a different opinion crazy or who asserts that their opinion must be right is incorrect and does not understand opinions. That means that you must also accept that our opinion is valid.
It still would have been an incredible feat to have done that scene in one take with a wire, though.
I think just admiration. He seemed to live for nothing other than chemistry, basically, and he found someone who was almost effortlessly better than him at it. He was in awe.
Adding to Walt's acquired traits posted earlier, but I still can't find the original article:
Something interesting from r/breakingbad
There was an article about how Walt keeps a memento, often a food characteristic, from the deaths he feels responsible for. I can't find the article, which is a shame, because I can't remember all the things mentioned. Anyhow:
There was a food item for Tuco and a few others as well. But the most exciting one was a theory:
- He cuts the crust off his sandwiches, ala Krazy 8.
- He keeps the eyeball of the bear from the plane crash.
- He keeps the Leaves of Grass gift from Gale.
- He "uses kids," ala Tomas's murderers.
- He affects the demeanor of Gus.
- He takes his drinks on the rocks, ala Mike.
Yep. Watch the 4.01 opening. He almost talks himself out of his job because of his appreciation for Walt's product.
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Wish someone on reddit would put together all the callbacks we had in this episode. It was pretty cool.
I think it'll only go downhill from here on. Especially for Walt.
Robot Pants
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haha perfect
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