Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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That THR live blog can go fuck themselves. They're ignoring all of my questions. Tim can suck a bag of dicks.
 
I wouldn't know where to put S5 in a ranking, all I know is that I fucking loved what I've seen so far. If the second part is done right, it'll probably go down as the best season for me. Although I have the feeling it'll be really depressing, so I don't know if I'll like it. =p


My only complaint of the first 8: not enough Jesse and Saul.
 
What was the most shocking dead scene for everybody?

To me it has to be the one in Season 3 where Walt.... Heisenberg runs over the 2 drug dealers that wanted to kill Jesse. Holy fuck I didn't expect that and it left me with my jaw open.
This and Victor throat slicing are in the top. What the fuck was that. Add up that I despise throat cutting deaths because they freak me the hell out.
 
So guys, how long do you think they've had Walt's fate next season planned?

From the way they talk on the podcast they know the ending destination but are trying to fill the gaps in between. At this point they probably already have it done since they start taping in november


I Still feel that the m60 walt gets is for lydia/todd/cartel/neonazi/..... They won't let this whole "im out" thing fly if he is truly done....
 

If the podcasts are to be believed, they hadn't started work on the second half in any way, shape, or form. I don't see why they'd lie.

Vince Gilligan also said on Conan (about a month and a half ago I think) that he still doesn't know what the final shot of the series will be.

EDIT: I'm sure he knew what Walt's fate would be, though.
 
I wasn't that impressed by the ending of the episode, but at least it looks like I might get what I want from the end of this show. Walter has become an awful human being and he deserves to get caught.

You'd be an awful human being too if you missed out on 5 BILLION dollars. Fuck off with that shit.

Walt's battling cancer, has a dipshit son who's dick doesn't deserve the balls, wife is a big bitch who cheats on him and is treated as a joke to practically everyone
 
Walt's battling cancer, has a dipshit son who's dick doesn't deserve the balls, wife is a big bitch who cheats on him and is treated as a joke to practically everyone

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Yeah and cooking meth and murdering people will totally solve things.
 
It's interesting to me to see some people rate season 2 so lowly. I think the silly ending and teasing up to that point overshadows how great that season really was. Huge improvement over the first, I thought.
 
Yeah, it showed up here back in February. We also talked about it a couple pages back.



And of course we've talked about this, but I thought it was better that he just found out by coincidence rather than by seeing Walt on a video tape or something. When you're watching a shot of Hank in his office poring over evidence, the thought of Walt being in there is in the forefront of your mind.

To that end, they set up the scene spectacularly. Our minds were so preoccupied with other things - will Holly fall in the pool? What about the test results? Are they really going to end on a sort-of happy note? And although I initially disliked how we never saw the inscription in the book in a past episode, it ultimately made the revelation more impactful due to the surprise.

I wasn't as surprised unfortunately because I noticed the shot where Walt's in the shower and it shows the book there... when I saw hank go into the bathroom I knew that was the only way he'd find out.

I shoulda kept my mouth shut too because I was watching with friends and they didnt notice the previous seen the book was in... xD

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I wasn't as surprised unfortunately because I noticed the shot where Walt's in the shower and it shows the book there... when I saw hank go into the bathroom I knew that was the only way he'd find out.

I shoulda kept my mouth shut too because I was watching with friends and they didnt notice the previous seen the book was in... xD

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I don't exactly think you were supposed to be surprised... The shot you posted above was there for a reason.
 
Walt's always been one step ahead of every one. I'm thinking he finds out he's in grave danger and buys Saul's option to be erased from existence, and he disappears.

Correction: Walt thinks he's one step ahead of everyone. He imagines himself as this end all, be all kingpin and mastermind. He's really very rash and prone to make poor judgmental decisions. He's just been very lucky up until this point, and has had much smarter people clean up after him.

I will say, though, he truly is a mastermind when it comes to deception. The "end times" manipulation of Jesse was incredible.
 
Walt never really has been one step ahead...he's basically stumbling his way through things THINKING he has everything in control. With Mike the true brains of the operation gone they will truly know how fucked up everything is.


A.V. Club said it best,

The most tragic outcome, it turns out, is not that the world comes apart when you’re at the top. It’s that the soft landing you’ve engineered, after everything has been taken care of and made right, refuses to materialize. It’s that you are your own loose end.
 
Walt's always been one step ahead of every one. I'm thinking he finds out he's in grave danger and buys Saul's option to be erased from existence, and he disappears.

The problem for Walt is that a lot of his 'one step ahead' of the DEA was just because Hank was constantly telling him stuff, or involving him in the investigation. The only reason Mike didn't end up in jail is because Walt overheard something in the DEA office.

I honestly expect Hank to play the next section of things smart--which means Walt is going to be oblivious to Hank being on to him for at least a little while. I honestly figure either Hank tries to talk to Skyler and Skyler tells Walt Hank's on to him, or Walt barely has time to make his giant blowhard Heisenberg "What's your next move?" speech before Hank slaps some handcuffs on him because he's already figured it out.

As far as we know, Hank still hasn't been told Walt's been paying his physical therapy bills, right? That's the only thing I think that could really cause problems at this point; anything else I see Hank as basically willing to roll with.
 
It has to end with Jesse being the only one to receive redemption, and Walt has to die. Walt is a horrible person and is the one who dragged Jesse down with him.
 
My prediction: Walt will set up a lemonade stand near Kaylee's school and ask her where her grandpa is as he sells her lemonade spiked with Mike's dissolved body.
 
I wasn't as surprised unfortunately because I noticed the shot where Walt's in the shower and it shows the book there... when I saw hank go into the bathroom I knew that was the only way he'd find out.

I shoulda kept my mouth shut too because I was watching with friends and they didnt notice the previous seen the book was in... xD

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What did you tell them? "Hank's going to find a book by this poet that Gale said he liked, that Walt made Hank aware of!"

My earlier post was not asking why Heisenberg is a plausible pseudonym, as there are many. What does Heisenberg himself, the uncertainty principle, or quantum physics have to do with Breaking Bad and Walter White?
 
Correction: Walt thinks he's one step ahead of everyone. He imagines himself as this end all, be all kingpin and mastermind. He's really very rash and prone to make poor judgmental decisions. He's just been very lucky up until this point, and has had much smarter people clean up after him.

I will say, though, he truly is a mastermind when it comes to deception. The "end times" manipulation of Jesse was incredible.
I agree that a lot of Walt's fortune is dumb luck, but I think most of the time he's in control albeit on the brink of chaos. But I could see the disappearing option being possible if Hank decides to confront him personally or if Walt uses the keylogger he put on Hank's computer to find some information out.

or was that thing he put on the computer just to transmit the mic signal?
 
I agree that a lot of Walt's fortune is dumb luck, but I think most of the time he's in control albeit on the brink of chaos. But I could see the disappearing option being possible if Hank decides to confront him personally or if Walt uses the keylogger he put on Hank's computer to find some information out.

I agree. Walt is very clever and thorough. His flaw is when he applies his sense of logic and common sense to the chaotic underworld of the illicit drug trade. Predicting the dynamics of the criminal enterprise and its human pieces is a lot different than supervising a high school classroom or grading papers. He's becoming a quick learner, though.
 
What did you tell them? "Hank's going to find a book by this poet that Gale said he liked, that Walt made Hank aware of!"

My earlier post was not asking why Heisenberg is a plausible pseudonym, as there are many. What does Heisenberg himself, the uncertainty principle, or quantum physics have to do with Breaking Bad and Walter White?

No, I sorta yelled OH SHIT THE WALT WITTMAN BOOK, and was all like, "watch Hank grab that book on the toilet!" while they all looked at me like "wtf lol".

Ok ok I'll admit it my friends are slow.
 
Late to the God-tier discussion:

Current:

1. Mad Men
-Breaking Bad
-Game of Thrones


vs. The Wire

As a social commentator, The Wire is probably unmatched. Rarely, however, do I recall finding the need to give a hair of a shyt about most characters on the show. They were mere cogs, while the most fascinating aspect of series, to me at least, was always observing the machine(s) at large. The Wire, ultimately, was far more interesting than it was entertaining; crafting a rote examination of society didn't always lend it's self to a particularly engaging television show or characters. Breaking Bad features richer storytelling by a large margin and it's more creative in doing so. I'd also give a considerable nod to the characters, both in how they are acted and written.

and the Hamsterdam arc was ridiculousness all the way around. Ditto for season 5 Mcnutty.
 
that was the point. that's why neither succeeded and both had consequences.

I think his point was that they defied his suspension of disbelief.
Hamsterdam
really was completely ridiculous and went on far far longer than it ever really could have in the form shown on the show. It kind of defied the show's realist take on things.
 
I think his point was that they defied his suspension of disbelief.
Hamsterdam
really was completely ridiculous and went on far far longer than it ever really could have in the form shown on the show. It kind of defied the show's realist take on things.
of course they defied ordinary reality, that was the point. the people responsible for both were treated like they'd gone insane. sometimes insane things happen in real life (see: the real life omar jumping out of an even higher window.)

edit: each were important to the show, too. to have mcnulty's crazy job finally push him over the edge of reasonable dissent and the bureaucracy not tolerate the most effective yet "politically nonviable" solution to the major problem presented throughout the series: the drug trade.
 
of course they defied ordinary reality, that was the point. the people responsible for both were treated like they'd gone insane. sometimes insane things happen in real life (see: the real life omar jumping out of an even higher window.)
yea but i think what the mod and nameless are saying is that it was hard for viewers to accept the ridiculousness of it in the first place despite weird shit happening irl.

i didn't mind it nor season 5's thing.
 
Oh man, it's so funny how differently I feel about the quality of the individual seasons. Here's my ranking:

1) S1
2) S2
3) S5.1
4) S4
5) S3
 
f yeah

S2
S1
S3
S4
S5.1

i think 5.2 could be among the worst or the best

It's interesting that we're basically the only ones who think S1/S2 are the best. But then we completely disagree about the rest :P

I thought S5.1 was a return to form (outside of maybe the final episode and the Rian Johnson directed Fifty-One) after the lackluster S3 and S4.
 
It's interesting that we're basically the only ones who think S1/S2 are the best. But then we completely disagree about the rest :P

I thought S5.1 was a return to form (outside of maybe the final episode and the Rian Johnson directed Fifty-One) after the lackluster S3 and S4.
the only episode i remember disliking for any particular reason is the pilot, the score/music was so off.

3 added a bunch of bullshit and 4 stalled like hell. 5 seems to follow the S4 game-plan: nothing much happens in the beginning, but shit gets real around the half-way mark. except that there is now a 10 month torture period.
 
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