what's funny is that they finally released kh re:com in dec 2008 (!) for ps2 (!!),why they didn't just port that to wii is beyond me
NPD August 2012 Sales Results [Up3: Sleeping Dogs]
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what's funny is that they finally released kh re:com in dec 2008 (!) for ps2 (!!),why they didn't just port that to wii is beyond me
I wouldn't be surprised to see 24k (10% of physical sold) digital copies sold of NSMB2.
Edit:
I also believe that if Square Enix had released even a port of KH 1 + 2 on Wii during its height of popularity in 2008 it probably would've done wonders for keeping the IP relevant instead of continuing to release different spin-offs on every single handheld and not giving their fanbase a specific home.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
With digital sales (assuming it is a bigger chunk then in Japan), NSMB2 had a similar first month to NSMB's first month. I have no idea why people are acting like NSMB2 had a bad performance, it's actually one of the bright spots of the month.
I was holding out hope, but I reluctantly have to agree now.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Wow, I REALLY thought Sleeping Dogs would outsell Darksiders due to positive hype and mainstream appeal (ie GTA in China is an easier sell to a wider audience). Glad to see Darksiders chart let alone at number 1.
PixyJunket
Member
Ayup. Sad times, these are.
Nope. Every since they brought in the Boy Love Thirteen and the Deviantart kids (and Nomura himself) became obsessed with them, the series was finished, done, destroyed (in terms of characters and plots, at least).
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
ahhhh what a crappy month. crappy year. my head hurts.
We've already had this discussion, but I imagine that console series that were strong on the HD platforms this generation will continue to do so.
But I really doubt the feasibility of Japanese publishers really taking advantage of PS4/720 specs for anything besides surefire Western hits like Resident Evil.
Well,
Darksiders Dungeon said:
Industry Gamers said:
Gamasutra said:
I'm feeling pretty safe that Darksiders 2 needs to hit 2 million copies globally to continue.
Yep, pretty decent for first week sales.
Yeah, it just keeps going back to what Iwata said in late 2008/early 2009. Top game sales stay the same in a recession, but the lower-tier wishlist games are what mostly suffer.
specialguy
Banned
Diablo, besides being a huge franchise, really showed the value of near indefeatable DRM on PC imo, but it does show hardcore thrives on PC. Minecraft is almost part of that new DD, low price, PC-esque trend than tradition retail. ME3 did well? I dont remember. Madden I give you. So basically only 1 of those 4 (Madden) offhand is a member of the "traditional retail hardcore console" market that seems to be in such danger.
I don't think most people deny that. It's just extremely sad for the overall quality of the industry.
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh, I just saw this from Frazier's release.
"However, compared to July 2012, the 3DS and the PS3 both experienced unit sales increases in August."
Although it may be relatively inconsequential.
So, Vita sold more than 50k this month?
Infinite Justice
Member
vita plz?
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm expecting about twenty developers total to really take advantage of the hardware and drown most everyone else out at retail in the West.
I'm sure SCE wishes Square Enix was first party.
Kingdom Hearts...this is what Square Enix gets for making a convoluted story line and constantly putting important story elements in handheld spinoffs for over a generation. They screwed themselves starting with Chain of Memories on the GBA.
Might as well scrap the whole storyline and start fresh with new characters.
Might as well scrap the whole storyline and start fresh with new characters.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Sure, it's not bad, and I expect it to sell well for years to come. It stands to become one of the must-buy titles for every new 3DS purchase from here on out.
To start with, it sold ~250K units on a base of 5.4 million systems, or to about 5% of 3DS owners. With time, that share will probably grow dramatically. Do we know U.S. sales of NSMB1? If it's ~9 million, then it reached roughly 17% of the NDS base.
PixyJunket
Member
The real stinger to that was that they didn't even bother with the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, which would have required little to no localization effort.
God, I hate Square-Enix. Unless Dragon Quest is involved, but I think that's just Hori being Hori.
Well, Mass Effect did 1.3 million in its first NPD month.
I mean, that's not off the charts, but it is still quite possibly the highest retail number this year since Diablo 3 had a large digital slant.
Max Payne 3 did about 440K for comparison.
Ugh. Will be fascinating to see. I *think* Nintendo could get some traction with some developers and publishers that literally cannot afford to take another full leap. But I've been wrong a lot this last generation so who knows.
It was released in early 2007 in Japan, and was announced before Wii was even released.
'During the month of August, Xbox 360 held five of the top 10 U.S. console game titles including: Darksiders II, NCAA Football 12, Sleeping Dogs, Transformers: Fall of Cybertron and Call of Duty: Black Ops II. (Source: NPD Group, August 2012)'
MEGATON!! Black Ops II was on retail for the 360 in August and no one noticed
MEGATON!! Black Ops II was on retail for the 360 in August and no one noticed
it really didn't seem like that long ago that numbers just shy of a million for a AAA release were heralded as "underwhelming" and "not meeting expectations".
atleast THQ can throw "#1 best selling title for august" to their baying shareholders, as pyrrhic a victory as it may be.
atleast THQ can throw "#1 best selling title for august" to their baying shareholders, as pyrrhic a victory as it may be.
So Vita did not see an increase over July, which puts it under 47K for the month. Okay.
I hope PSASBROKJF does real well, but I'm not sure it will crack the top 10 either. It does come out in November...
BassForever
Member
Well then... :|
I feel the risk here is that it's essentially trying to reconstruct the retail middle tier that exploded and seems to have been rejected by consumers already.
I mean, I think Nintendo is far better off trying to sign as many publishers as they can digitally since those are games that still seem to succeed with lower production values and publishers seem far more willing to take risks with them.
Quite a few of the major successes this year (Minecraft, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Trials Evolution) have all been digital only or digital heavy titles, so I imagine publishers are more willing than ever to try this.
I believe that Square and Enix still operate like two different companies to Nintendo.
Wow, Vita is almost dead
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I believe it's tied to the first sentence of the statement (the Vita wasn't around back last year).
“Of the platforms that were on the market last August, none realized a year-over-year sales increase. However, compared to July 2012, the 3DS and the PS3 both experienced unit sales increases in August.”
Although it could very well be less.
They didn't bite this generation though, when Nintendo offered them a way out of this AAA death spiral. Instead, most devs continued on with the arms race.
Heh, yeah. I suppose.
I guess this is how big FF fans feel. I like FF, but I've never really loved it. KH however is a franchise I love, and it's extremely frustrating to see Square just destroy the franchise like this when they could have easily prevented such a fall.
Seriously, not even a HD Collection! A disc just containing KHI, II, and Birth by Sleep would have really been satisfying. Especially if it was the Final Mix versions, people would have been over the moon to get those. Or at the very least BbS could have been put on PSN.
Instead....nothing.
I'm pretty confident that it will get there when the total global numbers are counted, but I don't think it will be enough for there to be a sequel. They will probably start on something that doesn't require as many resources with a better return on investment.
And what is up with the betrayalton posts regarding the game, they were going to give every horseman a different feeling game gameplaywise....heck it was rumored that DS3 would be a third or first person shooter.
That looks really awesome for Kingdom Hearts.
That NSMB2 number also looks pretty good considering it was out for only 11 days. I wonder if it can carry any of that momentum into September. Or, more importantly, November.
Out of curiosity, how does everyone think the top 5 will look like in November? I'm thinking:
1. Black Ops 2
2. Halo 4
3. Assassin's Creed 3 (Am I underestimating AC?)
4. NSMB 2 (probably a 3DS XL bundle on Black Friday)
5. NSMB U?
Am I missing any other huge titles in November? Just Dance? Do the sports games usually get a huge bump? Is 2 Marios cracking the top 5 in the cards?
That NSMB2 number also looks pretty good considering it was out for only 11 days. I wonder if it can carry any of that momentum into September. Or, more importantly, November.
Out of curiosity, how does everyone think the top 5 will look like in November? I'm thinking:
1. Black Ops 2
2. Halo 4
3. Assassin's Creed 3 (Am I underestimating AC?)
4. NSMB 2 (probably a 3DS XL bundle on Black Friday)
5. NSMB U?
Am I missing any other huge titles in November? Just Dance? Do the sports games usually get a huge bump? Is 2 Marios cracking the top 5 in the cards?
shinra-bansho
Member
Possibly. And it wouldn't be surprising at all. Although, as noted above I omitted the first part of the paragraph, which may exclude Vita from the overall statement.
True, but I think the overall atmosphere is a lot different.
Expect it to be all but dead by the time the PS4 comes out. At best it will be a Playstation Mobile device with buttons.
AC3, Halo 4, Black Ops, NFS, Hitman will make up top 5~, Resi Evil 6 may sustain in Nov, not to mention the various 3DS and WiiU games, Just Dance 4 ect. I think you've already won that bet.
Playstation all stars
We have to see whether it gets bundled and how its marketed
in the sony tgs thread, new ps3 model is hinted
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
What's the stats on some of Xseeds games? Do we know? Can see where TLS ranks
I'd like to think that too, I'm just not confident in Nintendo's ability to seize the moment or developers' ability to correct course.
grimshawish
Banned
I think November could hurt, Christmas will be okay but 2013 should see it find its feet again.
NSMB had such great legs cause its an easy pick up and a good pick up. NSMB2 could benefit if the WiiU is a better success too.
My main worry is that the problems in the handheld market are not solely in the handheld market, but we'll (hopefully) have the tests of that soon.
No ones tried anything on 3DS. No one. They haven't tried or asked for ideas. Even if they did they'd be too stupid to take ideas that wouldn't work anywhere else and use them on the 3DS; they'd just port their bro-games.
WiiU has Ubisoft as it stands; but thats more about not making the mistakes made with the Wii. Now, other devs aren't saying 'no'. Which is better than for the Wii and 3DS. So theres some sort of hope.
How would you have known it would sell well back then?