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NPD August 2012 Sales Results [Up3: Sleeping Dogs]

DEADEVIL

Member
Overestimating Halo imo. I think its coming to an end now and the market has changed. Its been stretched out a bit too much too with spin offs that weren't of the quality needed.
AC3 should be above Halo with probably some of the games Duck mentions being above it too.


NSMBU? God knows. Could be anywhere but Number 1 there.


Boy will YOU be in for a suprise in November. Halo 4 will easily be the top selling game of 2012 not named COD. It probably won't even be close.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Here's last year:

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, WII, PC)** Activision Blizzard 8.99 million (Less than 100K on Wii, even less on PC Retail)
2. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)** Bethesda Softworks - 2.8 million
3. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)** Electronic Arts
4. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft - ~1.26 million
5. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360) Ubisoft
6. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)** Electronic Arts
7. Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (PS3)** Sony - 700k
8. Saints Row: The Third (360, PS3, PC)** THQ
9. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (WII) ** Nintendo
10. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)** Warner Bros. Interactive

The biggest games this Fall that you didn't mention are Resident Evil 6, Borderlands 2, NBA 2K13, Madden 13, Medal of Honor: Warfighter, Need For Speed: Most Wanted, Skylanders Giants, World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria, Pokemon Black & White 2, and Epic Mickey 2.

Far Cry 3, a bit of a wild card, won't be out until December.

Resident Evil 6 - I don't think it's going to do as well as Capcom expects. Probably top 10, not top 5.

Borderlands 2 - Maybe top 10.

NBA 2K13 - Very good chance of getting top 5. I can see it bumping a Mario out of there.

Madden 13 - See above.

Medal of Honor: Warfighter - Maybe top 10.

Need for Speed - Maybe top 10.

Skylanders - These sell like gangbusters, don't they. Probably top 10.

World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria - I know there's still a pretty huge WOW community, but I wonder if they'll buy physical copies. Not sure it'll crack top 10 by November, all the WOW fanatics will probably have it by then.

Pokemon B2/W2 - A DS game in the top 10. In November 2012. It's happening :lol

Epic Mickey 2 - Maybe top 10.

Revised predictions:

1. Black Ops 2
2. Halo 4/Ass Creed 3
3. Halo 4/Ass Creed 3 (I'm certain they will be fighting amongst each other for 2 and 3)
4. New Super Mario Bros 2 (I'm expecting gangbusters from Black Friday bundles)
5. Madden 13

6-10, in no particular order:

NSMB U, NBA 2K13, Pokemon B2W2, Just Dance 4, Skylanders: Giants.
 

Duxxy3

Member
I don't understand why people keep saying "bring on next gen". So that what, hardware can be scarce and new games based on new tech can sell sub a million units at the launch?

This gen has lots of great games, but gaming fans just don't seem to care. Though I think DSII's numbers are close to the firsts in terms of sales the first month.

But new hardware isn't going to magically spark people's interest again.

I think it will spark developer interest more than mainstream consumer interest. Especially if the prices of the ps4/xbox720 are $350-$400.

Boy will YOU be in for a suprise in November. Halo 4 will easily be the top selling game of 2012 not named COD. It probably won't even be close.

Diablo 3 and maybe Mists of Pandaria.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
I mean it was to be expected wasn't it?

There were zero retail releases and the only release on the Vita of note for August was Sound Shapes which is neither a system seller nor exclusive to the Vita itself.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
(I'm expecting gangbusters from Black Friday bundles)

I feel I should note hardware bundles aren't counted, and the figure bundles for Skylanders aren't counted as well.

It's part of the reason Skylanders doesn't chart that much despite selling a ton.
 

Xenon

Member
I don't expect Vita to anything but decline in sales until they release a system selling game which has not happened yet. I wish LBP Vita would be that game, but I doubt it.

fake edit: It will pick up for Christmas of course.
 
Given their second lowest month, and the fact that you can't buy part of a Vita, there aren't that many numbers to guess!

Well that's depressingly low then. But I'm part of Sony's woes. I sold my Vita this week. So there's a vita in someone new's hands, but it won't show up on anyone's tally.
 
Brotherhood did about 1.14M launch month from what I can find? Not sure about Revelations?

Has the franchise grown to the point where it's doing something like 3M+ launch months?
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
You sure about that?

Well, it comes out in September, so it would have to have at least fairly sizable legs.

That said, it is a majorly marketed follow-up to a highly successful co-op game, so that could be quite possible.

Brotherhood did about 1.14M launch month from what I can find? Not sure about Revelations?

Has the franchise grown to the point where it's doing something like 3M+ launch months?

AC3 is a big wildcard. It's pretty safe to bet Ubisoft is spending $100-$150+ million marketing it this time around given how much they raised the development budget.

This one is also U.S. centric.
 

AniHawk

Member
kingdom hearts did pretty well.

nsmb2 didn't do too badly, but the 3ds xl definitely bombed. i think nintendo will do okay with sales constantly between 200k and 250k, but all this sub-200k stuff is awful for them. nsmb2 should be $34.99, the 3ds should be $99.99, and the 3ds xl should be $129.99.
 
But new hardware isn't going to magically spark people's interest again.

The stretching of this gen will make it difficult, but it will. History has shown this again and again. We don't even know what the new consoles features will have!

They do need something a bit more catchy than graphics (it'll take too long for a 'new' art style to take over, those 'tech demos' had awesome shading but everything else was blergh).

But really people are basing it on history, evidence and just how the tech industry works overall.

Boy will YOU be in for a suprise in November. Halo 4 will easily be the top selling game of 2012 not named COD. It probably won't even be close.

Well I won't be 'surprised', I'll just be wrong. Its just something I feel around the game, different from last time. I could be wrong, could be right - there are other more important things going on than to be surprised at Halo 4's sales in that month!
 

Ricker

Member
Wow...people aren't buying console games anymore =(... I mean 247k for Darksiders II across all 3 platforms...wow,this is bad.
 

Kazerei

Banned
KH DDD Mark of Mastery was a different SKU, but you'd think Nintendo would include that...

Edit: oh wait, so KH DDD vanilla was #2 on the individual SKU list at 180,000, but KH DDD MoM added to that
 

Tookay

Member
Not sure Western developers other than Ubisoft, who looks to be a great supporter will bite beyond token ports, but Japanese studios may have no other choice, they barely are keeping up with rigors of making games on current machines, and Wii-U will most likely be the king console in the home country.

I agree that Western devs will probably downport their a good chunk of their PS4/X720 games to the Wii U because they'll actually be able to scale their engines this time (though there will be some omissions I'm sure) and throw in a "test game" or two, but I'm not so sure Japanese developers will follow through with console development on any platform much more than they already are.

I think with them, the choice is largely binary, with mobile/handheld on one side of the spectrum and next-gen consoles on the other. The Wii U is caught in between both sides. I think what we've seen this generation is a gradual abandonment of the tech arms race from Japanese developers, and as they fall away from HD development, they'll pass Nintendo completely on the way down.

Unless something magical happens with Konami's Fox engine or SE's new engine, that is. But their problems seem to be more than just development-based; structurally, their outdated business culture might be more detrimental.
 
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