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Guise, I asked a pages back but still need to know. What info do I need to preorder if I want to switch from AT&T to a Verizon family account?

Do I just buy through the Verizon account then cancel my AT&T when it arrives? And can I switch numbers easily?

So many questions and preorders might be tomorrow ffffffffff


Can you not just create your new Verizon account tomorrow and pre-order the iPhone as your starting device? It doesn't seem that complicated to me.

Just whatever happens, remember to end the at&t one AFTER you're set.
 
Hard to believe the conference will be over in less than 24 hours. And then the inevitable backlash will begin for the next 2 weeks.

Feels like it's still far away. Sucks I'll be in a class from 11 - 2.
 
I kinda dig Paradoxal's style. When the usual drive by posters come through to fuck up a thread, they probably aren't expecting someone to go batshit on them.
 
Guise, I asked a pages back but still need to know. What info do I need to preorder if I want to switch from AT&T to a Verizon family account?

Do I just buy through the Verizon account then cancel my AT&T when it arrives? And can I switch numbers easily?

So many questions and preorders might be tomorrow ffffffffff

When switching carriers the new carriers will ask the old carrier for the phone number in order to transfer it. If you cancel the ATT on your own behalf you might lose your phone number.
 
i want to replace my aging iphone 4s

El oh el. This guy.

Is the undo function improved and easier to use in iOS 6? Because if it isn't they should just cancel the event tomorrow, dissolve the company and liquidate their assets, returning the money to their shareholders. I feel that would be the appropriate response for this gross oversight.


I don't think it will be called iPhone 5 because technically this will be the 6th iPhone going along with the 6th version of their OS. Next generation iPhone or "new iPhone" are far more likely.

Looking forward to any announcements regarding GameCenter.
 
Why is the top bezel so friggin huge? Seems like a waste of space. Would look so much better is it was slimmed down, either by simply making it smaller and taking away from the overall size, or by increasing the screen size so it's taller and taking up more of the overall phone.

It's like the 4G thing. Or any one of the many features iPhones include so much later than other phones. It only makes sense.

I think Steve would have done it by now. May he rest in peace.
 
Why is the top bezel so friggin huge? Seems like a waste of space. Would look so much better is it was slimmed down, either by simply making it smaller and taking away from the overall size, or by increasing the screen size so it's taller and taking up more of the overall phone.

It's like the 4G thing. Or any one of the many features iPhones include so much later than other phones. It only makes sense.

I think Steve would have done it by now. May he rest in peace.
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Your post is bullshit, because of the strawman in your 1st statement, something that I don't believe at all. However, I do think someone with a 100% negative posting record on a product/company is a troll, especially when he insists on posting in threats related to those /products companies and continually harrassing people in those threads. I tried to find 1 positive Apple post in his last 50 posts or so, and couldn't. All negative. That implies nothing to you? I guess I could also spend my time posting in threads about shit I hate, but I don't get the psychology behind it. I never once directed a post at him in this thread, yet he's been on my case each time. I'm sick of it.
Yeah, he clearly hates Apple stuff, given all the shit he owns and paid good money for. Persecution complex.

I haven't seen him being particularly negative about Apple stuff. Your posts are readable by anyone on here - he was probably responding because your posts about record-breaking sales, customer satisfaction, legendary build quality and mocking, hubristic journos being proven wrong made you sound like a paid PR bot.
 
Your post is bullshit, because of the strawman in your 1st statement, something that I don't believe at all. However, I do think someone with a 100% negative posting record on a product/company is a troll, especially when he insists on posting in threats related to those /products companies and continually harrassing people in those threads. I tried to find 1 positive Apple post in his last 50 posts or so, and couldn't. All negative. That implies nothing to you? I guess I could also spend my time posting in threads about shit I hate, but I don't get the psychology behind it. I never once directed a post at him in this thread, yet he's been on my case each time. I'm sick of it.

relax, it's ok if someone is allowed to a negative opinion on something related to Apple. I have a shit ton of Apple products myself, I'm pretty much knee deep in the Apple eco system, but when I say something negative about Apple I get called a troll
 
Outsource it to paradoxal. Just make sure working conditions are humane or i'll be mad!

Okok ill stop but seriously dude. It's like you're making up scenarios in your head then writing a rant about it at every post when no one's even saying anything bad about Apple in this thread.

Why not, just to close this whole topic of whether or not you're an anti-Apple troll that just wants to cause trouble. These are all your Apple related posts on the most recent page of your post history. All of them. I didn't skip any. Let's see the ratio of negative to positive comments.

Personally I think iOS 6 is a pretty crappy update for a new version release. I don't think it adds a single useful feature to my iPad.

Ok, so iOS sucks. No useful features.
Positive: 0
Negative: 1


Apple sure has changed yet people still believe them to be the underdog and Google/MS the evil corporate giants.

Apple is evil, not a fan of the company itself, policies, or business practises.

Positive: 0
Negative: 2


samsung to be retroactively sued for making 7" tablet

Regarding rumors of a mini iPad, mocking suggesting Samsung will be sued, impliying Apple's lawsuits are frivolous and baseless, even though the recent verdict proves otherwise

Positive: 0
Negative: 3


Google over Apple. Yup, good list.

Regarding a list of most innovative companies. Clearly thinks Apple isn't innovative, and giddy about their position below Google. Shocking.

Positive: 0
Negative: 4


"I love streaming to my Apple TV. All I have to do is install a transcoder on my computer, then stream it to my iOS device so I can airplay it to my Apple TV! See, it just works."

Mocking Apple TV, and implying the ease of use that Apple products are known for is actually a lie, using the common 'See, just works' troll line.

Positive: 0
Negative: 5


I disagree. If you're the most profitable company on the planet, you have the influence and resources to do something.

Regarding Foxconn, implying Apple doesnt care and has done nothing about the labour situation, although all the facts show that Apple in fact is doing the most out of any company that deals with Foxconn, with real monthly reports to prove it, and based on real, positive changes the FLA has announced that Apple has implemented. Consequently, its the 1st time in history a tech company hires such an independant body for an audit, not to mention gives full access to factories to media etc. He pushes false meme that Apple doesn't care and has done nothing, which is a blatantly lie, looking at the actual facts and reality compared to everyone else. Fucks given about Samsung's labor situation, in which they OWN their own factories: Zero. Shocking! Objectivity at work here folks.
(you can wiki Samsung to see how much influence they have, and how many industries they control- they even have a weapons division for Christs sakes, since we're talking about 'influence', the bullshit qualifier that he uses)

Positive: 0
Negative: 6


It's just a phone. Jesus.
Christ you never give it up do you. It's just a phone.

Responding to posts where I show that internet/techsite opinions/comments have little to do with what happens in reality when it comes to sales and customer satisfaction. This observation apparently enrages him.

Positive: 0
Negative: 7


And now, for the positive comment.


Oh wait, nevermind, that didn't exist. That was just the first page, which includes negative comments and spite on every aspect of the company and not a single positive one. I didn't pick and choose. If I kept going past the 1st page the number would have no doubt gotten to double and triple digits, with the top # remaining as is. Yet this is someone who will pretend to be open-minded about what will be shown off tomorrow, and not that he's already made up his mind about what he will say and how "dissapointed" he will be. He's attacked me constantly in this thread, and when confronted pretends to be a neutral observer who owns 28,293,023 Apple products. If this isn't the definition of a troll, what is? Is he forced to like Apple? No. But if he doesn't, why post incessantly in this particular thread? Yet people paint me as a fanatic, who happens to be posting in a thread about an upcoming keynote from a company I like, and products I'm excited about? Ok.
 
Why is the top bezel so friggin huge? Seems like a waste of space. Would look so much better is it was slimmed down, either by simply making it smaller and taking away from the overall size, or by increasing the screen size so it's taller and taking up more of the overall phone.

It's like the 4G thing. Or any one of the many features iPhones include so much later than other phones. It only makes sense.

I think Steve would have done it by now. May he rest in peace.


I can't stand the top and bottom bezel being as large as they are with respect to screen size, either, but its needed for surface area to shove all the megahertz inside while maintaining a slim profile.


Edit: holy shit paradox. For someone who hates apple thread shitting, you sure as hell aren't helping duder. Let it go man. Let it go.
 
since when does the front matter? The front is a screen. Every phones front looks just about the same. I can't even imagine in my mind what could be different in the front. Also, technically the front is different. Camera on top of speaker, and bigger screen and smaller home button.

Yeah, the front has little reason to change ever, plus it's a rather iconic part of the phone - 3:2, 3.5inch screen large top and bottom frame with rounded corners, with a small round indented button with a white outline of an app. The OG, 3G and 3GS all had the exact same front panel, 4/4S had a very minor addition of the front facing camera, and the 5 is the most radical change to the front of the iPhone ever. New 16:9 screen, smaller frame, smaller home button, new camera/sensor/speaker layout.

It is likely just as disadvantageous for Apple to make an iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone, as it is for Chevrolet to make a Corvette that doesn't look like a Corvette. It is smart to stick to what is known to work.
 
Damn, I sure wish the event was held 7 hours ago instead of 17 hours time from now. I'm at home waiting for people to come do some compulsory bullshit fire safety test. I could be checking out everything now instead of having to do it at work tomorrow.
 
I can't stand the top and bottom bezel being as large as they are with respect to screen size, either, but its needed for surface area to shove all the megahertz inside while maintaining a slim profile.


Edit: holy shit paradox. For someone who hates apple thread shitting, you sure as hell aren't helping duder. Let it go man. Let it go.
Well he did prove his point.
 
Well he did prove his point.

That's all I wanted to do, and as I said, will be my last word on the matter. I just feel the need to call people out on their bullshit once in a while based on facts, when they deny it. Instead of people saying 'HOLY SHIT', I hope instead they actually read the content and realize that I've more than backed up my sentiment.
 
I'm glad Paradoxal is here to take the time to call a spade a spade.
I agree. I'm tired of the obvious haters who claim being impartial yet the collective evidence proves otherwise.

It's the equivalent of I'm not racist I have a black friend / I own a bunch of Apple products but I hate everything about the company and will tirelessly tell you how much everything they bring out sucks
 
We fairly sure it will launch next Friday then? My Droid X is on its last legs.

Also, I wont be around a Best Buy if pre-orders are this Friday. Anyone have experience ordering online through Verizon through Best Buy? They just ship you the phone, or can you do in store pick up?
 
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I think "completely new design" is far too strong a compliment. This is more an iteration. 3GS-4 was a completely new design. I was hoping for more along those lines.

But the whole of the back of the phone is different. 3G/S and 4 both use the same design from the front.
 
Indeed called the iPhone 5. Metal bezel top and bottom, same glass back in both white and black, 4" Screen. Didn't hear it from me
 
They are not gonna livestream this either are they? Liveblogs->(A couple of hours later) Stream is a terrible way to experience a product launch.
 
Why not, just to close this whole topic of whether or not you're an anti-Apple troll that just wants to cause trouble. These are all your Apple related posts on the most recent page of your post history. All of them. I didn't skip any. Let's see the ratio of negative to positive comments.



Ok, so iOS sucks. No useful features.
Positive: 0
Negative: 1




Apple is evil, not a fan of the company itself, policies, or business practises.

Positive: 0
Negative: 2




Regarding rumors of a mini iPad, mocking suggesting Samsung will be sued, impliying Apple's lawsuits are frivolous and baseless, even though the recent verdict proves otherwise

Positive: 0
Negative: 3




Regarding a list of most innovative companies. Clearly thinks Apple isn't innovative, and giddy about their position below Google. Shocking.

Positive: 0
Negative: 4




Mocking Apple TV, and implying the ease of use that Apple products are known for is actually a lie, using the common 'See, just works' troll line.

Positive: 0
Negative: 5




Regarding Foxconn, implying Apple doesnt care and has done nothing about the labour situation, although all the facts show that Apple in fact is doing the most out of any company that deals with Foxconn, with real monthly reports to prove it, and based on real, positive changes the FLA has announced that Apple has implemented. Consequently, its the 1st time in history a tech company hires such an independant body for an audit, not to mention gives full access to factories to media etc. He pushes false meme that Apple doesn't care and has done nothing, which is a blatantly lie, looking at the actual facts and reality compared to everyone else.

Positive: 0
Negative: 6





Responding to posts where I show that internet/techsite opinions/comments have little to do with what happens in reality when it comes to sales and customer satisfaction. This observation apparently enrages him.

Positive: 0
Negative: 7


And now, for the positive comment.



Oh wait, nevermind, that didn't exist. That was just the first page, which includes negative comments and spite on every aspect of the company and not a single positive one. I didn't pick and choose. If I kept going past the 1st page the number would have no doubt gotten to double and triple digits, with the top # remaining as is. Yet this is someone who will pretend to be open-minded about what will be shown off tomorrow, and not that he's already made up his mind about what he will say and how "dissapointed" he will be. He's attacked me constantly in this thread, and when confronted pretends to be a neutral observer who owns 28,293,023 Apple products. If this isn't the definition of a troll, what is? Is he forced to like Apple? No. But if he doesn't, why post incessantly in this particular thread? Yet people paint me as a fanatic, who happens to be posting in a thread about an upcoming keynote from a company I like, and products I'm excited about? Ok.

That's nice but you completely missed where I said IN THIS THREAD. My posts are contained in threads where they are appropriate.

And I guess you missed all the shitting I've done in the Windows 8 thread cause that doesn't help you with your point now does it?

PS: look back further and see how much I've posted in the best of iOS thread, iOS gaming threads, new iPad community thread, and jailbreak thread before apple decided to go sue crazy.
 
Indeed called the iPhone 5. Metal bezel top and bottom, same glass back in both white and black, 4" Screen. Didn't hear it from me

I think you got it backwards.

I don't think anyone's buying your story about your company taking delivery of iPhones today BEFORE the reveal. I'll eat crow if you're right though :P

Edit: But I would be interested in how you get higher on the list than Walt Mossberg, David Pogue, and John Gruber (who will possess them tomorrow afternoon).
 
That's nice but you completely missed where I said IN THIS THREAD. My posts are contained in threads where they are appropriate.

And I guess you missed all the shitting I've done in the Windows 8 thread cause that doesn't help you with your point now does it?

1. Your posts in this thread are exactly the reason I suspected you of being a troll and was proven right. But hey, nice qualifier. Because anything you say in any other thread doesn't count towards making a judgement of whether you're a liar/hater in this thread. How ridiculous.

2. Yes, I did miss that, and no it doesn't 'help' with my point. It's utterly irrelevant to my point, and to yours. It has what to do with anything? If I troll against Apple yet also happen to hate broccoli, that invalidates my trolling? I don't give a shit what you think of Windows 8, I'm not about to dig up your posts on that, because it's completely irrelevant.

You couldn't respond to the damning evidence, so you reply with more..FUD. Well done. My excercise was to test your assertion that you like Apple (where you state you own X Apple products) or at the very least, if you're neutral towards them. The results speak for themselves.
 
1. Your posts in this thread are exactly the reason I suspected you of being a troll and was proven right. But hey, nice qualifier. Because anything you say in any other thread doesn't count towards making a judgement of whether you're a liar/hater in this thread. How ridiculous.

2. Yes, I did miss that, and no it doesn't 'help' with my point. It's utterly irrelevant to my point, and to yours. It has what to do with anything? If I troll against Apple yet also happen to hate broccoli, that invalidates my trolling? I don't give a shit what you think of Windows 8, I'm not about to dig up your posts on that, because it's completely irrelevant.

You couldn't respond to the damning evidence, so you reply with more..FUD. Well done. My point was to test your assertion that you like Apple (where you state you own X Apple products) or at the very least, if you're neutral towards them. The results speak for themselves.

I'm on my phone. I'll reply when I get home. Unlike you, I don't have all hours of the day to search peoples' post history but ill gladly make an exception to reply.
 
Um, did someone notice that the shadow of the 12 in op picture is a 5 ? That means they will indeed call it iPhone 5.
Oh my god, 2,000 posts in and you're the first to notice this! No need go to an eye doctor ever again, your vision is splendid. Perhaps not even human.
 
I think it's more that they like to edit anything out that isn't perfect.

Didn't they stop livestreaming after an event that something went wrong?

Steve yelling at everyone to turn off their wifi rings a bell, don't think it was streamed though, heh. Was obviously not in the video.
 
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