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[Chet Rippo]

KAMIYAAAAAAAA!
I take this as a confirmation!
Also:

:O

There we go. Now don't disappoint me.

 

[Carbonox]

Doubt it. The name is pretty silly, you know.

Wii u be quiet about the name?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Of course. That is what being painfully anti-consumer does.

No optical out. No ethernet. Horrible online structure. System updates and peripheral announcements centered entirely around pushing Nintendo products and nothing else.

But then, those facts about Nintendo and how many consumers it chases off is exactly why we'll never see a Nintendo led one console future. They're the republican party of video games in that they don't want consumers questioning what Nintendo obviously knows is best for them (read: best for Nintendo's bottom line).

If your name was designed to describe your posts, you forgot the C.

 

[Angel Whispers]

I'm liking the idea someone suggested of a training mode on the screen. Have it accessible at any time and maybe do something funny like Bayo pulls out a 3DS and starts playing on the main screen while you're on the pad screen and I'm in.

Perhaps playing Angel Attack mini-game on the GamePad would be an option, too, using the stylus for precision. Could even have a high scores chart .

 

[Drek]

There we go. Now don't disappoint me.

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Of course. That is what being painfully anti-consumer does.

No optical out. No ethernet. Horrible online structure. System updates and peripheral announcements centered entirely around pushing Nintendo products and nothing else.

But then, those facts about Nintendo and how many consumers it chases off is exactly why we'll never see a Nintendo led one console future. They're the republican party of video games in that they don't want consumers questioning what Nintendo obviously knows is best for them (read: best for Nintendo's bottom line).

Look at my iPhone. No HDMI out. Too few buttons. Proprietary charging port that's different than the standard that everyone else uses.

How painfully anti-consumer.

Whatever Apple does, they do what's best for Apple's bottom line.

 

[Azure J]

If your name was designed to describe your posts, you forgot the C.

Goddamn.

 

[Drek]

If your name was designed to describe your posts, you forgot the C.

Hell of a counter argument. Maybe next time you'll at least use a vintage grade school playground retort or something with a bit more panache. Lord knows you can't argue against what I said on it's actual merits.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

Because it would be epic. I want to play through in the Shiek costume - or Zero Suit Samus.

 

[Varjet]

I know who the enemy is. Starts with the letter 'C'.

Didn't know their HQ was some flying castle, interesting.

 

[Canis lupus]

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

Well Nintendo costumes are in TTT2 WiiU and Namco is making the next Smash Bros.

 

[jdforge]

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

Why not? Surely such an inclusion would be an unlockable extra bonus. It's just a bit of fun.

 

[Forever]

Hell of a counter argument. Maybe next time you'll at least use a vintage grade school playground retort or something with a bit more panache. Lord knows you can't argue against what I said on it's actual merits.

What merits?

 

[Drek]

Look at my iPhone. No HDMI out. Too few buttons. Proprietary charging port that's different than the standard that everyone else uses.

How painfully anti-consumer.

Whatever Apple does, they do what's best for Apple's bottom line.

Your point?

Apple isn't the only phone manufacturer and never will be. Ask them how their obtuse anti-consumer shit played for DECADES in the PC sector.

Go ask Dow Chemical what it takes to be the dominant force in a sector for generations. It takes knowing your consumer's needs and meeting all of them before someone else can, not forcing your paradigm and assuming no one else can ever out design you.

 

[JoeInky]

What merits?

It has no ethernet, man. NO ETHERNET!

Fucking Nintendo and their damned bottom line.

Oh hey I'm a member, when did that happen.

 

[Bulzeeb]

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

why not, just look at Tekken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJAOaPiz5M&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Drek]

What merits?

Literacy not your strong suit? I figured I spelled my point out rather clearly.

Anti-consumer practices/walled garden market places never lead to long term market dominance was the core point, FYI, if you need it spelled out a second time.

 

[Risette]

Hell of a counter argument. Maybe next time you'll at least use a vintage grade school playground retort or something with a bit more panache. Lord knows you can't argue against what I said on it's actual merits.

Company does whatever is in their best interests to maximize profit? You don't say.

There's nothing to argue.

 

[Alien Bob]

Go ask Dow Chemical what it takes to be the dominant force in a sector for generations.

What the fuck?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Hell of a counter argument. Maybe next time you'll at least use a vintage grade school playground retort or something with a bit more panache. Lord knows you can't argue against what I said on it's actual merits.

Your analogy was so pained and stretched that I figured I would not write too much to keep you from hurting yourself further.

 

[Forever]

Literacy not your strong suit? I figured I spelled my point out rather clearly.

Anti-consumer practices/walled garden market places never lead to long term market dominance was the core point, FYI, if you need it spelled out a second time.

"Nintendo cares about its bottom line" is not an argument of merit, and wrapped up in provocative language and bizarre comparisons to the Republican party it amounts to nothing more than a troll.

 

[Drek]

Company does whatever is in their best interests to maximize profit? You don't say.

There's nothing to argue.

Of course, but that being the overriding, heavy handed, and abundantly clear top priority of Nintendo's has made it so that a large portion of the core gamer audience will never support a Nintendo only console industry.

So what exactly was your point? Because it sure didn't address my post in any meaningful way.

 

[Supermanisdead]

Hope it includes a copy of Bayo 1. Nintendo and Platinum are good enough people to do that, right???

 

[Drek]

Your analogy was so pained and stretched that I figured I would not write too much to keep you from hurting yourself further.

Brilliant. Once again showing that logical debate and you are as capable of commingling as oil and water.

"Nintendo cares about its bottom line" is not an argument of merit, and wrapped up in provocative language and bizarre comparisons to the Republican party it amounts to nothing more than a troll.

My argument wasn't that Nintendo cares about it's bottom line, that is obvious. So does Valve. But then Valve is actively working to put readily accessible doors into their walled garden, further opening it up, while Nintendo is slow to move towards anything (online market places for example) that might reduce their control within said garden.

Not to mention that technical features and the like are treated in much the same way Mitt Romney treats economic plans. "We'll let you know when we want to let you know, until then trust us" isn't exactly a pro-consumer way to market your product.

 

[EloquentM]

I like you drek. You're a great joke poster.

 

[Riposte]

Hmm, you can't have a wired connection with WiiU? That is lame if true. Won't be my go-to choice for fighting games at least.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Hope it includes a copy of Bayo 1. Nintendo and Platinum are good enough people to do that, right???

That seems more of a Sega call, they own Bayo and published 1.

Given how easily some have said getting code to run on Wii U is though it would be nice if it was up on the E shop or something.

 

[Penguin]

If Nintendo is publishing the game, is there really anything but a 0% chance that this game will not be exclusive?

Has a Sony/Microsoft published game ever ended up on a competing console?

I can't think of any.. Nintendo example.. I mean look at the mess around Goldeneye... and I know people prefer the original, but look at Twin Snakes..

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Your point?

Apple isn't the only phone manufacturer and never will be. Ask them how their obtuse anti-consumer shit played for DECADES in the PC sector.

Go ask Dow Chemical what it takes to be the dominant force in a sector for generations. It takes knowing your consumer's needs and meeting all of them before someone else can, not forcing your paradigm and assuming no one else can ever out design you.

They're obviously failing as a business and nobody loves them.

 

[Risette]

Of course, but that being the overriding, heavy handed, and abundantly clear top priority of Nintendo's has made it so that a large portion of the core gamer audience will never support a Nintendo only console industry.

So what exactly was your point? Because it sure didn't address my post in any meaningful way.

How is anyone supposed to address your post in a "meaningful" way?

 

[JoeInky]

Hmm, you can't have a wired connection with WiiU? That is lame if true. Won't be my go-to choice for fighting games at least.

You can get a USB-Ethernet adapter, you can generally get them for around a tenner if I remember correctly.

 

[D_prOdigy]

Literacy not your strong suit?

This sort of rudeness is rare on here, because people who argue like this tend to not stick around unbanned.

 

[zroid]

The Wii U will support 802.11n, so there's that, at least.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Of course. That is what being painfully anti-consumer does..

I'll take this version of 'anti-consumer' over shutting down a legitimate online business that hampered my ability to order import games and cheap replacement parts for older consoles.

It's a corporation, it's ALWAYS about the bottom line.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Bayo in Smash makes sense. Why the hell would people want Nintendo mascot costumes in Bayo2?

 

[IrishNinja]

Your analogy was so pained and stretched that I figured I would not write too much to keep you from hurting yourself further.

funny you say this before he brought in dow chemical

...has made it so that a large portion of the core gamer audience will never support a Nintendo only console industry.

...how could you possibly know this, and why would anyone want that anyway
or are you implying that they want a monopoly, where their benevolent competition would not?

ps your recent posts are on about MS' practices in everything but gaming. i don't think these things are as analogous as you do.

 

[HYDE]

Because it would be epic. I want to play through in the Shiek costume - or Zero Suit Samus.

Forget that...I want Platinum to do Ninja Hyde and Shiek.

Find Shiek on the gamepad ala Waldo.

Jokes aside. I am suffering inside at the thought of how awesome a Ninja Shiek game would be.

 

[Supermanisdead]

Will we finally see someone truly fill out Princess Peach's costume?

 

[Drek]

They're obviously failing as a business and nobody loves them.

Wow, talk about a complete inability by an entire group to stay on topic.

Microsoft is painfully anti-consumer, they do quite well. But they do also realize that those practices have cost them market share in what was once a near complete monopoly (PC OS) and has completely destroyed a previous monopoly (web browser). Those practices also sunk their attempt at becoming a legitimate player in the ISP market. Their walled garden design for Zune relegated it to nothing in short order.

Microsoft still makes STUPID amounts of money. But they are quickly becoming unable to control nearly as large a percentage of the industry as they used to. That is consistently tied to anti-consumer choices they've made. The same goes for Nintendo and why a one console industry overseen by Nintendo would never survive. Their business model inherently chases off too large a portion of the market, which makes too much room for a competitor to live in and grow.

 

[Satch]

Bayonetta is probably the only character in the history of ever that would be able to make that outfit likeable for me.




edit: omg bayonetta with an arm cannon weapon omgomgomgoifhgkjndm

 

[Green Mamba]

God I hate those stupid heels.

 

[zroid]

Will we finally see someone truly fill out Princess Peach's costume?

Don't tell Nintendo, but I would pay large sums of money for this, if it were DLC.

 

[Drek]

This sort of rudeness is rare on here, because people who argue like this tend to not stick around unbanned.

Oh, so blunt truth is offensive to you? The only personal attacks in this thread are people unable to give a worthwhile rebuttal to my response to a previous post. I've been nothing but cordial.

I'll take this version of 'anti-consumer' over shutting down a legitimate online business that hampered my ability to order import games and cheap replacement parts for older consoles.

It's a corporation, it's ALWAYS about the bottom line.

Wait, did I argue that some other company wasn't anti-consumer? I'm missing your point here because I'm pretty sure I never did that.

 

[HYDE]

Wow, talk about a complete inability by an entire group to stay on topic.

Microsoft is painfully anti-consumer, they do quite well. But they do also realize that those practices have cost them market share in what was once a near complete monopoly (PC OS) and has completely destroyed a previous monopoly (web browser). Those practices also sunk their attempt at becoming a legitimate player in the ISP market. Their walled garden design for Zune relegated it to nothing in short order.

Microsoft still makes STUPID amounts of money. But they are quickly becoming unable to control nearly as large a percentage of the industry as they used to. That is consistently tied to anti-consumer choices they've made. The same goes for Nintendo and why a one console industry overseen by Nintendo would never survive. Their business model inherently chases off too large a portion of the market, which makes too much room for a competitor to live in and grow.

What does this have to do with Bayonetta? Please get on topic.

 

[Drek]

What does this have to do with Bayonetta? Please get on topic.

I was responding to a previous post in this thread, why not follow the conversation chain, as I was obviously not the person who originally derailed this thread. I'm simply providing clarity as to why someone's hypothetical was impossible.

 

[Beth Cyra]

God I hate those stupid heels.

Agreed.

Zero suit always made sense, who would rub their body on metal? But those fucking heels man, damn they suck.

 

[Azure J]

So many bad suggestions for Bayo costumes. Enough of those tired played out female Nintendo characters. Give me Lyndis, Captain Syrup and for maximum camp factor Rosalina alts in Bayo2. :lol :lol

Re: Zero Suit - It always made sense to me, but the issue was more of the suit becoming more and more geared for fanservice over practicality. That and as per Brawl, it made athletic Samus a choice versus a mandatory design. God I miss fast & brolic ass Smash 64 Samus.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Wow, talk about a complete inability by an entire group to stay on topic.

Microsoft is painfully anti-consumer, they do quite well. But they do also realize that those practices have cost them market share in what was once a near complete monopoly (PC OS) and has completely destroyed a previous monopoly (web browser). Those practices also sunk their attempt at becoming a legitimate player in the ISP market. Their walled garden design for Zune relegated it to nothing in short order.

Microsoft still makes STUPID amounts of money. But they are quickly becoming unable to control nearly as large a percentage of the industry as they used to. That is consistently tied to anti-consumer choices they've made. The same goes for Nintendo and why a one console industry overseen by Nintendo would never survive. Their business model inherently chases off too large a portion of the market, which makes too much room for a competitor to live in and grow.

I never knew I was entire group. Maybe I can get group discounts now!

 

[zroid]

So many bad suggestions for Bayo costumes. Enough of those tired played out female Nintendo characters. Give me Lyndis, Captain Syrup and for maximum camp factor Rosalina alts in Bayo2. :lol :lol

YES

 

[NEO0MJ]

Man, those heels look ugly. Did Tekmo really need to to have her wear them?
Also, just noticed that she had Bayonetta legs in that game.