Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Brought a Ruger 10/22 today...itis very fun and no issues with brass ejections. I deeply regard waiting so long. I can now stockpile thousands of rounds of ammo for 100 bucks.
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Poindexter
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I bet. Its the perfect size for concealed carry and gorgeous to boot!
Nope on the failures. Its damn reliable. I shoot thousands of rounds through it before it starts to give any failures and a quick cleanup solves it. Its also reliable through mud, dust and rain.
No opinions? Gunvault? I'm just looking for something to keep out kids or randoms, nothing to keep out thieves.
So good. 10/22's are awesome. My friend has one and we've unloaded epic amounts of rounds on the cheap many times. .22's in general are awesome because of that. Don't go all "tactical" and try and AR your 10/22 though; don't be that guy.
edit, in our experience the aftermarket banana clips will jamb rounds, avoid those.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I thought I posted that for keeping out kids the Gunvault Deluxe is very good.
Nah for me the stocks and stuff is money I could spend on Ammo, Reloading stuff, or another gun. For magazines I made sure to get a Ruger BX25 when I bought it. No jams yet with Winchester bulk. A scope is the most I could ever see me getting since my eye sight kind of sucks at distance.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Saw this posted on The High Road Message Board. Pretty neat original advert and shows how it was marketed to hunters.
BattleMonkey
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$189.50!
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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You should see the ads for surplus guns back in the day...it would make you cry.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Sweet don't put too much into an AK...it is an AK aftet all. You can always just get an RPG. lol
Oh Garand less learned never take down the bolt. Getting thr ejector spring is like the chasm in TDKR. lol
I lost it when trying to get it back in. Luckily just ten bucks to replace
Also also the cosomo I removed...was grease that should be there so there wss no need to break it down. lol Still I do know now how to de assembly and reassembly so it will be a lot easier in the future...and one should always know how to break down their weapon fully. Its something I've avoided in the past. Mostly because my wife hates the cleaning smell and mess with parts. lol Still spring aside the experience is a positive one.
Oh Garand less learned never take down the bolt. Getting thr ejector spring is like the chasm in TDKR. lol
I lost it when trying to get it back in. Luckily just ten bucks to replace
Also also the cosomo I removed...was grease that should be there so there wss no need to break it down. lol Still I do know now how to de assembly and reassembly so it will be a lot easier in the future...and one should always know how to break down their weapon fully. Its something I've avoided in the past. Mostly because my wife hates the cleaning smell and mess with parts. lol Still spring aside the experience is a positive one.
I am looking at either getting an Arsenal SGL-21. Or just buying a Saiga sporter and doing the conversion myself.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I would just get the Arsenal, the conversion for the Saiga is not hard, but it's more than building an AR and the cost in the end comes close to an Arsenal, plus you always have to worry about stupid part counts.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Anyone here own a Henry Lever Action 22 and have any thoughts on it?
Grandfather has a Golden Boy with the octagonal barrel, but I've never shot it. Know they're pretty well regarded as being fun, though.
Lionheart1827
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I've never tried one, but when I'm done with my chemotherapy, I'm looking into getting a Marlin 336c. I've been wanting to get a lever gun for so long, its one of the few types I dont have.
I also want to get a bolt gun with iron sights. They dont really make those kind of guns unless you look for mil surplus, and I dont really want to go that route.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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That's what I've heard too, I'm thinking I'm going to get one in the next week or so.
Well I think I speak for all of gun GAF when we I say we hope your chemo is done as fast as possible and with little interruption to your life as possible, I've had some Marlin 336's in the past and they are great great guns. I highly recommend them.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Manos must be setting records for GAF bans.
That or a 629 Stealth Hunter are about the only revolvers I feel I must shoot one day.
Certainly getting up there.
My dad and I have been thinking of getting a gun, for protection/prevention. However, we primarily want something that my mom, small woman, can handle. Where should we start, what kind of gun should we look for, and other tips welcomed. (Live in Texas if that matters.)
Thanks for any advice.
Thanks for any advice.
Glock 27 would be my choice.
http://www.glock.com/english/glock27.htm
You can also look at the M&P Shield.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...4_750001_750051_780153_-1_757781_757781_image
They are both sub compacts. So I would go to a gun store with her and see if it's the right size. Depending on how big her hands are she might be able to use a Glock 19 or a 23. Both are compacts and a little bigger than the 27 and the Shield.
Halcyon
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I shot a handgun for the first time the other day. It was a 1911 of some make. I was shocked by the feeling and sound of it as it fired. Was much more powerful than I imagined.
I actually shot well the first few clips but then I started anticipating the recoil and I was having a tough time.
I finally got it more straightened out though. Now I want a gun. I think id like something with a little less power as I don't plan on shooting anything but targets.
I actually shot well the first few clips but then I started anticipating the recoil and I was having a tough time.
I finally got it more straightened out though. Now I want a gun. I think id like something with a little less power as I don't plan on shooting anything but targets.
Yeah, the SW Shield is a good choice, the Glock is good too but has some idiosyncratic ergonomics. If you will only be getting one gun, that's fine. 9mm is plenty powerful for defense but should still be manageable for your mom. Look around your area for gun ranges with rentals and go try a few guns, even if you can't find your exact model that you want, you can try out a few different rounds and see which are okay for your mom.
If you want to go with a rifle, an AR15 is hard to beat. Very little recoil, light weight, and with good defense rounds it is damn effective too. AR's are not complex, but there are a myriad of options which can be intimidating.
A .22 pistol is a great way to learn to shoot, and if you will only be target shooting it is all you need unless you want more shits and giggles. Bonuses are that ammo is cheap and the guns are generally cheaper too.
Ruger, Browning, and SW all make good .22's, something like a Ruger 22/45 would be a great way to start.
http://www.ruger.com/products/2245Target/models.html
Halcyon
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Thanks I'll definitely look into that. I don't really have a lot of money to spend on it anyway.
That being said I was just browsing and I think if I wanted to go all out id get a Springfield xdm 9mm. Based almost entirely on the fact that it's what I used in resident evil 4 lol.
Looking for some advice from some of you. I'm getting ready to pickup a 9mm and I've narrowed it down to the following 3. I've yet to rent/fire each, thats the next step but prior to that curious what people think is the best of these?
S&W M&P 9 (standard)
Glock 19 (gen 3)
CZ 75 SP-01 (steel)
I'm in CA so I dont have access to gen 4 Glocks, well rostered. No VTAC M&P, and no Phantom CZ to have comparable weight. Regardless, based on about 1 year of research I'm thinking right now the M&P is probably the best gun for me, but I'm tempted to buy the CZ and mod it a bit to make it a gentleman's gun.
Uses : Home defense, but mostly range gun to shoot with both my dad and father in-law. Bonding time etc..
Thoughts?
S&W M&P 9 (standard)
Glock 19 (gen 3)
CZ 75 SP-01 (steel)
I'm in CA so I dont have access to gen 4 Glocks, well rostered. No VTAC M&P, and no Phantom CZ to have comparable weight. Regardless, based on about 1 year of research I'm thinking right now the M&P is probably the best gun for me, but I'm tempted to buy the CZ and mod it a bit to make it a gentleman's gun.
Uses : Home defense, but mostly range gun to shoot with both my dad and father in-law. Bonding time etc..
Thoughts?
CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical hands down!
The CZ's going to shoot more nicely than the polymer guns but the latter two will be easier to maintain. I'd rent/fire each to see if they speak to you first, but my blanket recommendation for people getting their first nine is a Glock. Is this your first gun period?
ChiTownBuffalo
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I'm voting CZ. Glocks are great, but sounds like you kinda want something different.
Oh, keep in mind that the CZ is going to weigh about the same as a 1911. And the slide is always going to be stiff, even in CZ's that are broken in, stiff slide action.
Last edit, if you don't need that rail space, check out a CZ 85.
Oh, keep in mind that the CZ is going to weigh about the same as a 1911. And the slide is always going to be stiff, even in CZ's that are broken in, stiff slide action.
Last edit, if you don't need that rail space, check out a CZ 85.
Setre
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Went to the gun show with my brother yesterday and bought a 1952 Smith & Wesson 22. double action revolver. We went to the range and shot it and it worked except that the ejector rod was a little stiff. I partially cleaned it last night before the cheap cleaning kit I bought from Walmart broke on me. Plan to go back to the range today after work and see if lubing it up helped any.
MisterNoisy
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For a range gun, I'd strongly recommend the CZ. I've run over 10K through my plain-Jane -75B and despite adding a fair number of other handguns to my collection since I bought it, it's still my favorite to shoot. Top-drawer ergos and accuracy, and dead nuts reliable. Even first-time shooters love it.
The Glock and M&P are both nice guns that I'd both put ahead of the CZ if you're looking to carry, but between the three, I'd personally take the CZ every time.
NovemberMike
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Both of these are relatively bad for what he wants. For home defense you generally want a full sized double stack automatic, they are the softest shooters, the most accurate and the highest capacity guns. A 27 or a shield are more for concealed carry, where you're sacrificing comfort and firepower for the ability to hide it.
My recommendations for a full sized handgun would be a used Browning Hi-Power (you can get police surplus stuff that's got a lot of holster wear and very little barrel wear for $400), a Glock 19 or some other random plastic 9mm.
That's what I was basing my response on. How is a Glock 27 bad for a small woman but a Hi Power is good?
NovemberMike
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Smaller gun = harsher recoil, and subcompact Glocks have the same grip diameter as the full sized versions (you can use a 33 round mag in a G26, for example). The BHP has a less aggressive double stack design which makes for a thinner grip and the all steel construction absorbs recoil well. The only real point against a BHP would be the fact that it has an unusually heavy hammer spring which can make cocking it with the hammer down difficult, but it's something that anyone should be able to do if they are holding the gun properly.
BattleMonkey
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With use it can loosen up as well. Sometimes they are stiff when they are newer and with use and through cleanings things will loosen up most likely.
TheContact
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Not sure what the point of owning an AR is but I'd love to have one to hang on the wall or something.
I REALLY want to shoot a sniper rifle, I wonder if my local range has that option
I REALLY want to shoot a sniper rifle, I wonder if my local range has that option
NovemberMike
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1) Finger off the trigger unless you're ready to shoot (gun aimed and everything).
2) Be sure what you're shooting at. Make sure that it's not something that's likely to ricochet or explode, and that you're willing to destroy it.
3) Be aware of what's behind your target. If there's water the bullet will skip, if there's houses in the background then make sure your bullets won't travel that far.
4) Treat the gun as if it's loaded unless you can actively see the empty chamber.
There's no such thing as a "sniper rifle", really. What you're thinking of is basically long(ish) range shooting with a scoped rifle. You can do that well enough with an AR, actual long range shooting (>600m) requires specialized equipment and a lot of skill. You'd most likely be looking at trying a scoped rifle on a 100m range.
MisterNoisy
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I've found that cheap/bulk .22LR ammo often has wax on it that gunks up the cylinder and ejector rod in my revolver too. When I shoot nicer stuff like CCI 100-pack ammo (Mini-Mags, etc), there's never an issue.
NovemberMike
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Good recommendation, but I'd suggest a Browning Buckmark over a Ruger. IIRC the registered part on a MkIII is the upper, so if you decide that you want a different barrel or profile or whatever then you have to legally purchase a new gun, and it creates issues with sending the part around for repairs. In a Buckmark the frame is technically the firearm, which just makes things easier. Other than that Buckmarks and Rugers are fairly similar in terms of cost and quality.
Have you not been shooting much? Your opinion would change after having tried several calibers.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Saw a Delisle Carbine this morning. Quiet as sin. Looks like it used a .45 mag.
Wow.
But $2000.
Wow.
But $2000.
$2000, repro or typo?
ChiTownBuffalo
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Reproduction. I think less than 200 were originally made during the war?
childplease
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So I am buying either a PPQ or a Gen 4 or Gen 3 glock 19.
What generation is the better glock.
What generation is the better glock.
Yeah, some insanely small number. But yeah, it should take a standard 1911 magazine. Does the place have a website, wouldn't mind looking at it.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Valkyrie Arms is the manufacturer?
Funky Papa
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I was wondering if somebody from Gun-GAF knows the regulations for exporting sights and gun accesories and/or allowing foreigners to buy such items in America.
I know that I can't purchase an ACOG without the government's approval (like I'm going to try... and get my ass in some scary list), but I was wondering if the same applies to holsters, plain optical sights and the like. I fly to the States a few times per year and I like to take advantage of the weak dollar whenever I can. Scopes are crazy expensive over here.
I know that I can't purchase an ACOG without the government's approval (like I'm going to try... and get my ass in some scary list), but I was wondering if the same applies to holsters, plain optical sights and the like. I fly to the States a few times per year and I like to take advantage of the weak dollar whenever I can. Scopes are crazy expensive over here.
Xdrive05
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Now that's a fun gun!
But it reminds me of how disappointed I am in not being able to get/find a Ruger 77/44... curses.
Cheers.