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I apologize in advance but I need to vent.

- I'm in a job I hate but the money is good. The company isn't that bad just 3 people who shape the company to their will and screw everyone else over.

- I'm living with an ex-colleague of mine who constantly smokes pot, complains about her diseases but doesn't help herself, has a new boyfriend every 2 months
and I'm afraid my shit will get stolen one day. She would rather die then clean the house, leaves pans and pots to rot, which grow mold after cooking food but
I'm moving out to live on my own in half a month.

- I think I'm in love with one of my colleagues even though I know it's a stupid idea (she's a very good friend and I have a tendency to fall in love quite fast plus
I'm not sure if I'm over my ex yet and my colleague hasn't shown any sign of affection in return)

- I keep coming home after work, having a couple of drinks so I can go to sleep so I don't worry about anything that's happening. I'm pretty sure this is a bad habit but I can't help myself.

Any advice gaf?
 
I'm pretty sure if I died at this point no one would care. I think it would be for the better, too.

Feel about the same way right now.
Still in the back of my mind, I'm sure people will be extremely sad/pissed if I were to die right now.

Try not to think about it and go on and do something else.

Hey depression Gaf, I am having a bad day.

Pretty much everything that is bothering me is financially related. We used to make good money, but my husband was fired and we had to move cross country and rent a house way too expensive for us in order to survive. We lost our home. Lost a massive amount of income. And now because he works across the border in another state, we somehow owe state taxes for the first time in our lives. To the tune of 1000 dollars. And it's fucking breaking us. Car payment, (for a car we got before he was fired), rent, electric, ect...I am to the point where I want to sell everything we have just to catch a break, but then we'd have nothing. All of this stuff we got while we were doing alright. I actually dreamed about faking my accidental death so that my family could collect life insurance. I can't work cause we can't afford daycare. I am going to start school in the spring, if I can get enough in loans to cover everything and daycare, cause otherwise, I am screwed. To top it all off, we have tons in medical bills, even though we have insurance through his work, that we can't possibly pay. My husband is getting diagnosed with Parkinson's. I tore my Achilles tendon. My youngest son broke his arm. It all fucking piling up and I seriously feel like I am drowning.

So yeah. Just wanted to get that off my chest. I have to play happy and keep a smile on my face for my kids, but inside I just want curl up in a corner and die.

I'm not sure what advice I can offer since I'm not well on financials myself.
I don't know if you're serious about faking your death, but please avoid that. Your children and I'm sure your husband will be devastated if you vanished from their lives. You are worth more than life insurance collections.

My parents and I don't get on good terms, but if one of them to fake their death and vanish from our life, I would not know how to live with myself.
Just remember, you're not alone in your situation, your husband is with you in this hard time.
Also about going back to school, just remember to apply for financial aid if you can. They have interest free loans and grants to offer.
Good luck.
 
Feel about the same way right now.
Still in the back of my mind, I'm sure people will be extremely sad/pissed if I were to die right now.

Try not to think about it and go on and do something else.

The thought is always in the back of my mind and just waits for an opportunity to come out. I really have nothing to do, and even if I did, it's not like I have anyone to do it with. I'm really just alone.
 
Switching to another medication? I switched from Zoloft to Prozac back in the fall of 2010 with no problems.

Speaking of meds, I'm about to switch from Cymbalta (60mg but was on 120mg for a long while) to Lexapro.

prozac was outdated back when I was 16
didnt know it was still so widely used
 
prozac was outdated back when I was 16
didnt know it was still so widely used

Sadly, we haven't really made any major advances over Prozac. It's still a good medicine. We're still largely at the point where we try you on a bunch of antidepressants and see what sticks. Hopefully that'll change in the next few years.

I just bumped my Effexor to 225mg. I've been a little out of it, explaining my absence from the thread.

Jubei - stick in there. I figured they wouldn't send you to ECT right away. My only question is, are you completely honest with your therapist? do you tell him/her that you're acutely suicidal? Or do you downplay it?
 
Pretty sure I deserve to die. Ugh. I fucking hate myself. Seriously, seriously deserve it. I feel so bad for my parents having to put up with me.

I need to get my ass to school so I can forget for a few hours.

What makes you think you deserve to die? That's a pretty extreme view to hold. You don't have ANY redeeming qualities? You're guilty of heinous crimes? I'd bet that, rather, you're just depressed, and your brain is sabotaging you. There are a near infinite reasons to live and even the tiniest kindnesses you do can touch peoples' lives in a huge way. Go out of your way to just be a little bit more friendly, a little nicer to others. hold doors for people, pick up things people drop, when someone looks like they're having a bad day, do something nice for them. Leave random nice notes under people's doors. Go out of your way to randomly, anonymously brighten people' days. Live outside the confines of your own head. It can do wonders for you.
 
Okay, triple post, but I just wanted to throw it out there that I'm always willing to chat - PM, email, skype, or by phone. Just PM me for the info. I'm a night owl, so don't worry about waking me.

I suffer from depression, am training to be a psychiatrist, my wife is a psych nurse, I've done psych research, and researching psych is my hobby. I'm non-judgmental and I think I'm a pretty good listener. I've spoken with quite a few of you if you need some testimonials.

No one should ever suffer in silence.
 
Has anyone had any experience with getting off of zoloft?
Yes, I dropped it after being on it for 7 or 8 years. Tapered it carefully and the withdrawal symptoms were bearable. Mostly brain zaps, confusion / cloudiness and trouble sleeping. Everything went away in around two weeks.

About par for the course for SSRIs. Just taper slowly and carefully and it won't be bad.
 
Okay, triple post, but I just wanted to throw it out there that I'm always willing to chat - PM, email, skype, or by phone. Just PM me for the info. I'm a night owl, so don't worry about waking me.

I suffer from depression, am training to be a psychiatrist, my wife is a psych nurse, I've done psych research, and researching psych is my hobby. I'm non-judgmental and I think I'm a pretty good listener. I've spoken with quite a few of you if you need some testimonials.

No one should ever suffer in silence.

I'd like to double post to piggy back off of this. I'm some sort of bipolar, having struggled with anxiety, depression, mood fluctuations and panic, especially of the existential variety.

Now that I'm out of school all I do is work my part time job. I'm doing better these days but still get wrapped up in how meaningless everything is. I rarely post but I lurk GAF almost every day so I'll see PMs.

Relationships and real human interaction are what create meaning in our fundamentally pointless existences. I'd be more than happy to talk things out with any of you.
 
I'd like to double post to piggy back off of this. I'm some sort of bipolar, having struggled with anxiety, depression, mood fluctuations and panic, especially of the existential variety.

Now that I'm out of school all I do is work my part time job. I'm doing better these days but still get wrapped up in how meaningless everything is. I rarely post but I lurk GAF almost every day so I'll see PMs.

Relationships and real human interaction are what create meaning in our fundamentally pointless existences. I'd be more than happy to talk things out with any of you.

We should talk and compare notes sometime! I want to make sure we coordinate our MASSIVE kickbacks from the drug companies...
 
Relationships and real human interaction are what create meaning in our fundamentally pointless existences.

id say that understanding how things work is more meaningful than any human interaction. acknowledging how insignificant we all are and seeing the bigger picture is the only thing that keeps me going.
A person that you think has it all, doesn't actually have anything significant on you.
 
id say that understanding how things work is more meaningful than any human interaction. acknowledging how insignificant we all are and seeing the bigger picture is the only thing that keeps me going.

Humans are social creatures. The one huge advantage of talking to others is you can break free of your ingrained thought patterns. We all fall into ways of thinking that we believe are the only possible choices. How often do you present the "only" choices facing you and someone else will say, "why the hell didn't you try this other thing?"

You can be as smart as smart can be, but in order to get outside perspective, you need another person. Even just having another person to listen can be invaluable. Seriously, my offer stands. Ring me up and let's talk.
 
prozac was outdated back when I was 16
didnt know it was still so widely used
From my understanding, it's still quite useful and one of the stronger SSRIs. Since it has been around so long, the long term effects have been studied. Newer isn't always better in the world of medicine.
 
Humans are social creatures. The one huge advantage of talking to others is you can break free of your ingrained thought patterns. We all fall into ways of thinking that we believe are the only possible choices. How often do you present the "only" choices facing you and someone else will say, "why the hell didn't you try this other thing?"

You can be as smart as smart can be, but in order to get outside perspective, you need another person. Even just having another person to listen can be invaluable. Seriously, my offer stands. Ring me up and let's talk.

its not like I haven't tried being sociable
ive just had enough experiences to fortify my belief that im better off by myself

From my understanding, it's still quite useful and one of the stronger SSRIs. Since it has been around so long, the long term effects have been studied. Newer isn't always better in the world of medicine.

I knew it was widely used in the states, but for some reason they stopped using it here.
 
its not like I haven't tried being sociable
ive just had enough experiences to fortify my belief that im better off by myself



I knew it was widely used in the states, but for some reason they stopped using it here.

Seriously, let's talk. I won't judge you - I don't even know you.
 
My freelance, cutt-rate, pseudo-psychiatric program is off to a miserable start. It's hard to attract new patients, even with a trust-inspiring name like "bagels."
 
I hear a lot that people don't want to "burden others" with their problems. It's no burden at all. Helping other people, externalizing my own problems, is about the most therapeutic thing I can think of.


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Deafening silence

You can't blame me for trying, at any rate.
 
The thought is always in the back of my mind and just waits for an opportunity to come out. I really have nothing to do, and even if I did, it's not like I have anyone to do it with. I'm really just alone.

I think it's important to list questions in your head and act them out if there's any slight truth to them when feeling like this.
If you have given up a hobby some years or months back, try to pick it up and resume it.
You never know, it might give you something to do with your time.
Just some example questions I thought of:

Do you ever want to go to therapy?
Is there a hobby you really want to do but given it up?
Can't you talk to someone online if you can't find anyone near by?
Have you done something nice for yourself today?

Just keep rattling down questions till you can find something you can act on.
 
I think it's important to list questions in your head and act them out if there's any slight truth to them when feeling like this.
If you have given up a hobby some years or months back, try to pick it up and resume it.
You never know, it might give you something to do with your time.
Just some example questions I thought of:

Do you ever want to go to therapy?
Is there a hobby you really want to do but given it up?
Can't you talk to someone online if you can't find anyone near by?
Have you done something nice for yourself today?

Just keep rattling down questions till you can find something you can act on.

Well, I used to enjoy gaming and reading. Sadly, neither interest me now. I like music, and I was trying to learn guitar but I was forced to quit because I would apparently "never learn to play". I used to find that shopping for clothes or shoes would help, but it would only last for a few seconds; then the joy of having new/nice things would wear off really quickly. I don't know; I'm a socially awkward introvert with friends who are never available to do anything unless they have something to gain from it (aside from one who barely even speaks to me anymore :/). My life is just... bleh.
 
Oh man, my social skills are so poor recently.

What's weird is that I don't even seem to enjoy conversation anymore. Like 80% of all conversation is painful, forced and uninteresting to me now. Unless I am drunk. Then talking is as satisfying as it should be.

Needless to say, this makes connecting with anyone fucking difficult. I only hope that by powering through, being the awkward guy in the corner making people uncomfortable, and putting some effort into ask people how their day is, peharps even remebering something about them and asking them how that is going, that I can return to being a normal human being.

Though I've been doing this for two weeks, and I've had no improvement what so ever. Honestly, just having a small beer before a social situation seems to make things noticably smoother.
 
Well, I used to enjoy gaming and reading. Sadly, neither interest me now. I like music, and I was trying to learn guitar but I was forced to quit because I would apparently "never learn to play". I used to find that shopping for clothes or shoes would help, but it would only last for a few seconds; then the joy of having new/nice things would wear off really quickly. I don't know; I'm a socially awkward introvert with friends who are never available to do anything unless they have something to gain from it (aside from one who barely even speaks to me anymore :/). My life is just... bleh.

Who forced you to quit? If you enjoy playing guitar, go for it!
I suck playing the ocarina, but I try not to let my "fail" quality ruin my joy for playing it.
I seen plenty of people that should "never learn to play" on Youtube, but they still enjoy to play. Despite the hate they get daily, they still enjoy what they do and try to keep learning to play their instruments. Even the greatest of musicians start somewhere.

Try not enforce a behavior to make yourself buy clothes or shoes to help you make you feel better. It can be an addiction and it will just tell your brain to feel "I need this otherwise I can't function" sort of thought pattern.

A lot of us are socially awkward (myself included) while I'm not sure the best recommendation for this, I would suggest going/join a club or social gatherings as a starting point. I think at least being around people, it'll give you a sense of how to interact with people. It might be awkward and scary at first (and I don't think this will be solved after one or three gatherings either) but persistence is key. Try to observe when people talk as well, it might give you an idea how to interact with people.
 
So I just got laid off from my job that I'd only been at for 5 weeks. Totally abrupt. Literally as I was walking out the door to go home, my boss said he needed to talk to me. He told me that I'd been a great worker, but he'd just gotten a call from his boss that they were doing a round of layoffs, and, well, I was the newest guy, so I was the first to go.

The depression hasn't quite hit yet, but I know it's coming. I liked this job, they liked me, and it gave me some structure to my day and a reason to get out instead of moping around the house all day. Between the meds and the job, I felt like I'd made a lot of progress... and now that I've lost the job, I worry that I'm going to fall into some bad habits again and take some steps backwards.

I guess I need to start looking for another job, but this whole thing's kinda got me down. I mean, what's the point of working hard and doing my best if this is how I'm thanked? I try to be a good person, not just at my job, but in life in general, so why do bad things still happen to me? Why does it seem like every time I make a little bit of progress, life just decides to boot me right back down?
 
So I just got laid off from my job that I'd only been at for 5 weeks. Totally abrupt. Literally as I was walking out the door to go home, my boss said he needed to talk to me. He told me that I'd been a great worker, but he'd just gotten a call from his boss that they were doing a round of layoffs, and, well, I was the newest guy, so I was the first to go.

The depression hasn't quite hit yet, but I know it's coming. I liked this job, they liked me, and it gave me some structure to my day and a reason to get out instead of moping around the house all day. Between the meds and the job, I felt like I'd made a lot of progress... and now that I've lost the job, I worry that I'm going to fall into some bad habits again and take some steps backwards.

I guess I need to start looking for another job, but this whole thing's kinda got me down. I mean, what's the point of working hard and doing my best if this is how I'm thanked? I try to be a good person, not just at my job, but in life in general, so why do bad things still happen to me? Why does it seem like every time I make a little bit of progress, life just decides to boot me right back down?

I know it seem like it's just you, but it happens to the best of us. The assholes reap the rewards while the meek get stepped on and tossed out. All I can tell you is to keep moving forward no matter what.
 
So I just got laid off from my job that I'd only been at for 5 weeks. Totally abrupt. Literally as I was walking out the door to go home, my boss said he needed to talk to me. He told me that I'd been a great worker, but he'd just gotten a call from his boss that they were doing a round of layoffs, and, well, I was the newest guy, so I was the first to go.

The depression hasn't quite hit yet, but I know it's coming. I liked this job, they liked me, and it gave me some structure to my day and a reason to get out instead of moping around the house all day. Between the meds and the job, I felt like I'd made a lot of progress... and now that I've lost the job, I worry that I'm going to fall into some bad habits again and take some steps backwards.

I guess I need to start looking for another job, but this whole thing's kinda got me down. I mean, what's the point of working hard and doing my best if this is how I'm thanked? I try to be a good person, not just at my job, but in life in general, so why do bad things still happen to me? Why does it seem like every time I make a little bit of progress, life just decides to boot me right back down?

Word on that. I went through a depression or two in my life. At the bottom of the bottom, i thought to myself 'if I can achieve goal x then I'll be happy', spent several years patiently building up to that goal and got super close but didnt make it, and i became complete flaming wreckage. Utterly collapsed in on myself and could barely get out of bed. I went through that cycle twice actually over about a 10 year period.

I used to think why couldn't those in charge just let me have achieved goal x? My life probably would be a lot simpler and depression free if it had happened that way.

I think I'm more or less out of that cycle now and accepted my current reality for the most part. Took me quite awhile though, and their were other factors that kept me from getting to that point.

I guess what I want to say is hold on. Keep pushing. Make a goal, a long termish goal or even short team, and let that push you through. It worked for me anyway.
 
Who forced you to quit? If you enjoy playing guitar, go for it!
I suck playing the ocarina, but I try not to let my "fail" quality ruin my joy for playing it.
I seen plenty of people that should "never learn to play" on Youtube, but they still enjoy to play. Despite the hate they get daily, they still enjoy what they do and try to keep learning to play their instruments. Even the greatest of musicians start somewhere.

Try not enforce a behavior to make yourself buy clothes or shoes to help you make you feel better. It can be an addiction and it will just tell your brain to feel "I need this otherwise I can't function" sort of thought pattern.

A lot of us are socially awkward (myself included) while I'm not sure the best recommendation for this, I would suggest going/join a club or social gatherings as a starting point. I think at least being around people, it'll give you a sense of how to interact with people. It might be awkward and scary at first (and I don't think this will be solved after one or three gatherings either) but persistence is key. Try to observe when people talk as well, it might give you an idea how to interact with people.

It was my mom; she isn't exactly the most supportive person out there, and despite what I told her, she didn't care. She also insisted that I would never be any good at it because I'm not white (we're brown), which made no sense to me 'cause c'mon, Jimi Hendrix wasn't white. She didn't care.

The shopping nearly did become an addiction, but now I only buy things that I want, not because of stupid impulse "I need to have it" moments. Shopping just really isn't that much fun anymore. I used to go in to stores and look around, but now I'll only go if I want/need something, and then only if I know exactly what I want.

I would join a club or something, but I have the problem of school (not to mention there are no extra curricular activities in pretty much any Ontario high schools right now). I'm currently in my last (hopefully last) year of high school and my grades are really fucked up right now. I normally do pretty well and never accept anything below 80, but since I've been feeling like shit going back to last July, my motivation has slowly disappeared and I stopped trying/caring. Now it's only September, but I need to start applying to universities in November and I have no chance of getting in to any program I want at this point which is disheartening and makes me care even less about trying. I want to become a doctor in the future as I do sincerely want to help people (I really want to do Doctors Without Borders) but I honestly don't think I'll ever make it there. This whole situation sucks. I know I'm fucked, I know I need to try to bring my marks up, but the motivation just isn't there anymore. The worse I do, the shittier I feel; the shittier I feel, the less I try/the less I care.

Sorry for this rambling post.
 
It was my mom; she isn't exactly the most supportive person out there, and despite what I told her, she didn't care. She also insisted that I would never be any good at it because I'm not white (we're brown), which made no sense to me 'cause c'mon, Jimi Hendrix wasn't white. She didn't care.

The shopping nearly did become an addiction, but now I only buy things that I want, not because of stupid impulse "I need to have it" moments. Shopping just really isn't that much fun anymore. I used to go in to stores and look around, but now I'll only go if I want/need something, and then only if I know exactly what I want.

I would join a club or something, but I have the problem of school (not to mention there are no extra curricular activities in pretty much any Ontario high schools right now). I'm currently in my last (hopefully last) year of high school and my grades are really fucked up right now. I normally do pretty well and never accept anything below 80, but since I've been feeling like shit going back to last July, my motivation has slowly disappeared and I stopped trying/caring. Now it's only September, but I need to start applying to universities in November and I have no chance of getting in to any program I want at this point which is disheartening and makes me care even less about trying. I want to become a doctor in the future as I do sincerely want to help people (I really want to do Doctors Without Borders) but I honestly don't think I'll ever make it there. This whole situation sucks. I know I'm fucked, I know I need to try to bring my marks up, but the motivation just isn't there anymore. The worse I do, the shittier I feel; the shittier I feel, the less I try/the less I care.

Sorry for this rambling post.

If she's not forcing you to quit because of the noise your guitar makes, I still say continue to play the guitar. Don't play the guitar to get her acceptance. Try to play for yourself and enjoy doing so. (Also being white and being good at guitar does not relate at all...no one cares if a person is blue so long as they can play the guitar well.)

Why do you think you stopped enjoying to window shop?
Try to get back into just looking around like you used to.
You may not need said item but if it's something you used to enjoy, window shopping doesn't hurt.
Might discover something new and get a peaked curiosity about some items.
(Very true if I go Asian grocery shopping and carefully look down the aisles. I always discover something unique and interesting.)

I know some people down here in the US start off in community colleges at first to get over "required courses" that is mandatory for every college student (regardless what you go into). Then after those two years, they transfer to a tier one university and get in the program they desire. Is there any chance you can take that route?
It sounds like you have done well except recently this past time; would it really have impacted getting in your desired program just because you screwed up a year?
I know it's disheartening to get dumb grades. You tend to feel like crap and not bother to try. I'm in a university myself where an exam is worth 50% of my grade for the entire course, and if I fail, I know I'm screwed. Still, at the end of the day, you have to accomplish for yourself (as stupid as that sounds, it is true) and if you screw up, it is not the end of the world. Keep going and do what you can to fix the problem.
You want to become a doctor, but isn't there something else tied to being a doctor that you wanted to personally accomplish? (Ex: (pulling this one out of my head) finding a cure to breast cancer to help a loved one) That can lead to a motivation factor to pick yourself up.
Don't apologize for rambling by the way.
 
If she's not forcing you to quit because of the noise your guitar makes, I still say continue to play the guitar. Don't play the guitar to get her acceptance. Try to play for yourself and enjoy doing so. (Also being white and being good at guitar does not relate at all...no one cares if a person is blue so long as they can play the guitar well.)

Why do you think you stopped enjoying to window shop?
Try to get back into just looking around like you used to.
You may not need said item but if it's something you used to enjoy, window shopping doesn't hurt.
Might discover something new and get a peaked curiosity about some items.
(Very true if I go Asian grocery shopping and carefully look down the aisles. I always discover something unique and interesting.)

I know some people down here in the US start off in community colleges at first to get over "required courses" that is mandatory for every college student (regardless what you go into). Then after those two years, they transfer to a tier one university and get in the program they desire. Is there any chance you can take that route?
It sounds like you have done well except recently this past time; would it really have impacted getting in your desired program just because you screwed up a year?
I know it's disheartening to get dumb grades. You tend to feel like crap and not bother to try. I'm in a university myself where an exam is worth 50% of my grade for the entire course, and if I fail, I know I'm screwed. Still, at the end of the day, you have to accomplish for yourself (as stupid as that sounds, it is true) and if you screw up, it is not the end of the world. Keep going and do what you can to fix the problem.
You want to become a doctor, but isn't there something else tied to being a doctor that you wanted to personally accomplish? (Ex: (pulling this one out of my head) finding a cure to breast cancer to help a loved one) That can lead to a motivation factor to pick yourself up.
Don't apologize for rambling by the way.

Unfortunately, I don't even own a guitar. Someone she knew was lending me theirs so I could learn, but she told them not to bother after a while.

I just have so much damned clothes now I really have almost nothing to wear (if that makes sense). I look into my closet and go "blah, why did I buy this again?" It just doesn't really make any sense anymore (then again, nothing in my life makes sense anymore).

And the thing with post-secondary schooling right now is money issues. My family isn't exactly rich, and school costs money. A lot of money. A lot of money for what seems to be really nothing at this point (Bachelor's are becoming worthless in the real world apparently). And to be honest, right now I have no clue what I want to do in university. I mean, I enjoy biology, but the odds of finding a decent paying job with a Bachelor's of Science in bio if you don't make it into grad/professional school? Nada. This saddens me even more (yes I get sad very easily). People tell me I should major in English or literature, since I find writing to be easy, but it doesn't interest me. It seems like nothing really does. I don't know what I want to do.

I really just don't know what to do with my life at this point. I feel as if I'm making a big deal over nothing; it's just something that everyone has to deal with, but it doesn't make me feel better. I feel even worse considering there's people way worse off than me. I really have no sense of self-worth; I don't feel I deserve to live if this is the mentality I have. I honestly do just feel like crawling somewhere and dying.
 
I feel even worse considering there's people way worse off than me. I honestly do just feel like crawling somewhere and dying.

It shouldn't make you feel bad. Little junior in some backwards part of the world dieing of disease and hunger doesn't automatically invalidate your own problems with depression. Perspective is important, but you need to focus on you and not compare yourself to how sad or happy or successful or failed other people are.

As long as you're not hurting anyone else, making YOU feel happy should be a priority. You say that you're having trouble deciding what to do in school. Who the fuck doesn't these days. I'd recommend just making sure you have money from a job or wherever and just trying out different stuff. Money is what keeps you afloat and is what will allow you to be picky. You'll need to save up but it'll be worth it if it's something you're interested in. But this is just one recommendation, there are a myriad of actions you can take at this juncture.
 
It shouldn't make you feel bad. Little junior in some backwards part of the world dieing of disease and hunger doesn't automatically invalidate your own problems with depression. Perspective is important, but you need to focus on you and not compare yourself to how sad or happy or successful or failed other people are.

Thanks. I try to tell myself this but it never really helps.

As long as you're not hurting anyone else, making YOU feel happy should be a priority. You say that you're having trouble deciding what to do in school. Who the fuck doesn't these days. I'd recommend just making sure you have money from a job or wherever and just trying out different stuff. Money is what keeps you afloat and is what will allow you to be picky. You'll need to save up but it'll be worth it if it's something you're interested in. But this is just one recommendation, there are a myriad of actions you can take at this juncture.

It's not just school. There's other shit, too. Shit I don't really want to get into, but yeah.. I have a job right now at a place where I never get any hours, so I never have any money coming in. It blows.
 
Oh man, my social skills are so poor recently.

What's weird is that I don't even seem to enjoy conversation anymore. Like 80% of all conversation is painful, forced and uninteresting to me now. Unless I am drunk. Then talking is as satisfying as it should be.

Needless to say, this makes connecting with anyone fucking difficult. I only hope that by powering through, being the awkward guy in the corner making people uncomfortable, and putting some effort into ask people how their day is, peharps even remebering something about them and asking them how that is going, that I can return to being a normal human being.

Though I've been doing this for two weeks, and I've had no improvement what so ever. Honestly, just having a small beer before a social situation seems to make things noticably smoother.

At some point, you really need to take a chance. On my medical school rotations, I'm very shy, so I come across as "generic, skittish, medical student." The one time I said "fuck it," And really put myself out there, I got a huge response. Is it going to fail? Sure? But I'd rather fail being myself, if it means people get to see the real me, Just hanging back and being timid wasn't getting my anywhere. And you now what? If pofessors don't "get" the real me, then fuck them (within reason, of course).

Thinking about it, the people who genuinely like me, like me BECAUSE I'm quirky and weird and funny. If I try to be the straight-laced prototypical medical student, I can't do it as well as others and it'll make me miserable. I like being known for being a little weird, for asking questions that show I give a shit. And If people don't like it, there are plenty of people who do. I'm, confident in who I am and I frankly don't care what (most) other people think of me. I'm blessed with a wonderful family and a group of friends who are like family to me.

Don't actively try to make friends - be yourself and see what kind of people are drawn to you.
 
Its been so long that 'just being me' is not just being at all.

My personality must be shelled up so deep right now, if it hasn't disappeared entirety.

The thought of having a blank personality feels like it should be liberating. It is not.
 
Its been so long that 'just being me' is not just being at all.

My personality must be shelled up so deep right now, if it hasn't disappeared entirety.

The thought of having a blank personality feels like it should be liberating. It is not.

I know what you mean. I don't really remember what I'm like, as myself. It's rather hard to just put myself out there, as It feels like I don't really have anything there to put out. A few of my friends understand, or at least pretend to understand why I am the way I am these days. But man, it'd be great to remember how to be fun. I was pretty fun.
 
I know what you mean. I don't really remember what I'm like, as myself. It's rather hard to just put myself out there, as It feels like I don't really have anything there to put out. A few of my friends understand, or at least pretend to understand why I am the way I am these days. But man, it'd be great to remember how to be fun. I was pretty fun.

Ha, you sound a lot like me. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
 
Its been so long that 'just being me' is not just being at all.

My personality must be shelled up so deep right now, if it hasn't disappeared entirety.

The thought of having a blank personality feels like it should be liberating. It is not.

I know what you mean, but I don't think I ever had a personality. I've been just this blank nothing since I was 9 or something.

I have a lot of fake personas, but they're nothing really.

Not gonna lie, until my therapist said it is something that happens, I thought I was a sociopath or something :/
 
Its been so long that 'just being me' is not just being at all.

My personality must be shelled up so deep right now, if it hasn't disappeared entirety.

The thought of having a blank personality feels like it should be liberating. It is not.

It really does suck. I just act differently depending on who I'm around so they think that I actually do care/I'm not boring. One person understands but, meh. I really don't remember how I used to be/feel.
 
Dear Gaf, Think I am beginning to fall back into depression. This happens often around the fall and winter. Currently, I have been studying everyday.. isolating myself for the most part. I dont know..just beginning to feel down alot more these days.. just wanna mention this to someone.
 
Dear Gaf, Think I am beginning to fall back into depression. This happens often around the fall and winter. Currently, I have been studying everyday.. isolating myself for the most part. I dont know..just beginning to feel down alot more these days.. just wanna mention this to someone.

There is a very good chance this is your culprit. Don't overwork yourself. It's very possible to reach your educational goals while getting out, hanging with friends, and doing stuff on the side.
 
It really does suck. I just act differently depending on who I'm around so they think that I actually do care/I'm not boring. One person understands but, meh. I really don't remember how I used to be/feel.

I know about this to an extent, but it destroys you in the long term. You get lost and wonder which one is the genuine you, I try to stop it nowadays.

I have something related I suppose, it's really hard for me to open up to people, I guess people understand that. But also, if I haven't seen someone for a while, I have to re-open up to them, except for like 1 or 2 people. This caused me to burn many bridges in school, since I would see people I knew, but would think I was easily forgotten about over the summer and avoid contact with them. I thought if I said hi they would just be like "Who are you?" or "Wait, you thought..?", I even did it to one girl who initiated the contacts. =( Even good friends, if I haven't seen them for a month or two, I restrain myself at first while talking to them, because I think they won't want to hang around if they see the real me. Does anyone else experience this? Or does it even make sense? I'm getting better with staying in touch and convincing myself that people want to be around me because of me, but sometimes it lingers back in my mind.
 
I know about this to an extent, but it destroys you in the long term. You get lost and wonder which one is the genuine you, I try to stop it nowadays.

I have something related I suppose, it's really hard for me to open up to people, I guess people understand that. But also, if I haven't seen someone for a while, I have to re-open up to them, except for like 1 or 2 people. This caused me to burn many bridges in school, since I would see people I knew, but would think I was easily forgotten about over the summer and avoid contact with them. I thought if I said hi they would just be like "Who are you?" or "Wait, you thought..?", I even did it to one girl who initiated the contacts. =( Even good friends, if I haven't seen them for a month or two, I restrain myself at first while talking to them, because I think they won't want to hang around if they see the real me. Does anyone else experience this? Or does it even make sense? I'm getting better with staying in touch and convincing myself that people want to be around me because of me, but sometimes it lingers back in my mind.

YES. Exactly this. I'm not really close to anyone except one person at school anymore because I have done this. Not really because I would feel I was forgotten, but mostly because I stopped caring about them. I really did stop caring about basically everyone but my best friend at school, and in general, too. :/
 
It shouldn't make you feel bad. Little junior in some backwards part of the world dieing of disease and hunger doesn't automatically invalidate your own problems with depression. Perspective is important, but you need to focus on you and not compare yourself to how sad or happy or successful or failed other people are.

As long as you're not hurting anyone else, making YOU feel happy should be a priority. You say that you're having trouble deciding what to do in school. Who the fuck doesn't these days. I'd recommend just making sure you have money from a job or wherever and just trying out different stuff. Money is what keeps you afloat and is what will allow you to be picky. You'll need to save up but it'll be worth it if it's something you're interested in. But this is just one recommendation, there are a myriad of actions you can take at this juncture.

This. I can't really add much to this but this is great feed back.
Just want to add my two cents worth, always remember, if Canada's universities/community colleges offer financial aid, take advantage for it and apply for it. It helps immensely when getting through college. At the moment I'm only paying around 1,000 dollars this semester because most of my tuition was covered by grants.
(Also, I can agree that not everyone these days knows what they want to do in school, I changed majors myself many times when I thought full sure I wanted to be a web designer...Now I'm aiming to be a writer.)

Unfortunately, I don't even own a guitar. Someone she knew was lending me theirs so I could learn, but she told them not to bother after a while.

And the thing with post-secondary schooling right now is money issues. My family isn't exactly rich, and school costs money. A lot of money. A lot of money for what seems to be really nothing at this point (Bachelor's are becoming worthless in the real world apparently). And to be honest, right now I have no clue what I want to do in university. I mean, I enjoy biology, but the odds of finding a decent paying job with a Bachelor's of Science in bio if you don't make it into grad/professional school? Nada. This saddens me even more (yes I get sad very easily). People tell me I should major in English or literature, since I find writing to be easy, but it doesn't interest me. It seems like nothing really does. I don't know what I want to do.

I really just don't know what to do with my life at this point. I feel as if I'm making a big deal over nothing; it's just something that everyone has to deal with, but it doesn't make me feel better. I feel even worse considering there's people way worse off than me. I really have no sense of self-worth; I don't feel I deserve to live if this is the mentality I have. I honestly do just feel like crawling somewhere and dying.

Is there any way you can scrap up enough money to buy your own guitar?

As I stated above, not everyone really knows what they want to do in a university. I guarantee you, a great portion of high school graduates will not graduate with the same major they say they're going to do.
Don't go to English if you don't want to, just make sure to go into something you actually enjoy. (Salary for a job can be a factor, but ultimately, I think it's best to go to a major you actually enjoy)
Also, let's assume you still want to go through the Bio undergraduate program. If you can't get into graduate school with a Bio major, something my family friends have done was apply to medical schools in India, or go to the Caribbean to complete medical school. I can't give you specifics on either but they are options to consider. And also a point here, it's not the end of line when you think it is.

As Sub Level said, don't feel bad because someone is worse off than you. It rarely can reverse depression/suicidal logic.
While I can only offer you some paths to take, the end is what you decide.
But just know, you have the power to do something at this point in time.
Research on what you can do, what majors you might consider, etc.
Look at that financial aid, just what ever you do, don't just contemplate that you don't know what to do. If that happens, push it out of your mind and do something else.
Act on something.
Good luck.

Dear Gaf, Think I am beginning to fall back into depression. This happens often around the fall and winter. Currently, I have been studying everyday.. isolating myself for the most part. I dont know..just beginning to feel down alot more these days.. just wanna mention this to someone.

There is a very good chance this is your culprit. Don't overwork yourself. It's very possible to reach your educational goals while getting out, hanging with friends, and doing stuff on the side.

I want to add that this also sounds like a symptom of SAD disorder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder
Just thought I mention it, I'm not sure if that's it, but that's what it reminded me of.
 
On top of currently feeling like I have reached a new low for various reasons and my love life currently being in such a complicated and sorry ass state I rather not talk about it, I found out my company is closing and will soon be unemployed and unable to move out during the worst period you could find yourself jobless in my country.
I dont believe in fate or a higher power or whatever, but if by any chance it exists then fuck it for never giving me a brake, EVER.
If none of that exists then fuck bad luck and circumstance because I swear both are ploting shit against me.

"Oh you're feeling a little happy there? Here's this then, motherfucker!!!"

Fuck everything!

edit: Oh and winter is coming to make me feel all happy and bright while I look for a job at a gas station in the pouring rain because college degrees mean shit right now. Perfect timing
 
Man, I thought college was going to be great but it's been pretty shitty so far.

I stayed in town for a girl (mistake one) who went on to briefly leave me for another guy, and I still talk to her on a daily basis (mistake two) because I still want her back. It feels like she's just playing along with it while she keeps her options open.

Every weekend I end up chauffeuring around my only friend left in town because he doesn't have a license, and we usually end up getting ridiculously high (mistake three). I used to love weed but now I just end up feeling depressed as I come down.

I loathe everything about living at home, and as much as I would love to be in a dorm right now at Cal Poly or wherever that opportunity is long gone. I'm stuck being dependent to my parents and working part time is iffy, due to me taking 19/20 credit hours pretty much until I graduate.

In the grand scheme of things I guess I don't have it too bad, but I just end up feeling lonely and trapped on a daily basis. It's no bueno.
 
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