Nihilistic: "It is not our call to put Zombies Mode in BO: Declassified."

Iacobellis

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https://twitter.com/nihilisticinc/status/254278069446135809

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Good going, Sony.
 
What did I just read
Someone bomb Activision and tell them on twitter to put Zombies in there. Oh dear I think its too late.
 
Of course Sony or Activision could demand that Zombies are in the game. But then they'd have to delay the game to get them in, and the game looks rushed as it is.
 
If Sony cared they would have been all-in for it, then asked Activision. It is Sony's platform, mainly it is their call.

It's Activision's brand, i'm sure it's more up to them than it is up to Sony.

Anyway, it must be going gold soon, surely? Only a month left until release.
 
I note that they basically confirmed that Sony is (at minimum) sharing the drivers' seat with Activision.

No .. it's more that Sony asked for it's franchise to be on the Vita, Activision said yes but you develop it. Final sign off is still Activision.
 
So... this seems to further confirm what many of us have suspected since Gamescom: this is effectively a first-party title that Activision is merely publishing. Otherwise, why would Sony have any control over the game's feature set?
 
mmh, sounds like some producer at Activision has taken the OCP approach and is like "WHO CARES IF IT WORKS" it will sell enough copies anyways, why bother! :D
 
Good going, Sony.

not that i know anything for a fact, but based on the rumours i've heard, the reason i expect it *is* more on Sony that need to make this happen is because i imagine what needs to happen is this:

Sony need to pump more funds into the project for Nihilistic to make a Zombies mode. i bet all Activision have to do is give them a green light to do so.

right, because as we know Sony is bankrolling this project yes? that matches up with the rumours doesn't it?
 
What is wrong with OP or does he just have selective reading? Why would Sony purposely not want a developer to add value to a product. It's obviously Activision's call since they're the publisher and IP holder.
 
What is wrong with OP or does he just have selective reading? Why would Sony purposely not want a developer to add value to a product. It's obviously Activision's call since they're the publisher and IP holder.

unless we think Nihilistic are lying in that tweet Sony are in a position to prevent it. now consider *why* that might be. all the rumours suggest that Sony are basically bank rolling the Vita port. if they didn't budget for a zombies mode, Nihilistic aren't going to have the staff to make one.

i mean, that's only my theory, but Sony's name wouldn't even be in that tweet if they didn't have the ability to prevent Zombies going in. that 'AND' wouldn't be an 'AND' if they didn't have the ability by themselves. again, not saying that's a fact, cause i don't know...

but it sure seems logical.
 
So... this seems to further confirm what many of us have suspected since Gamescom: this is effectively a first-party title that Activision is merely publishing. Otherwise, why would Sony have any control over the game's feature set?
Which is why Gearbox and Rovio where pushing for the same thing for their games.
 
unless we think Nihilistic are lying in that tweet Sony are in a position to prevent it. now consider *why* that might be. all the rumours suggest that Sony are basically bank rolling the Vita port. if they didn't budget for a zombies mode, Nihilistic aren't going to have the staff to make one.

i mean, that's only my theory, but Sony's name wouldn't even be in that tweet if they didn't have the ability to prevent Zombies going in. that 'AND' wouldn't be an 'AND' if they didn't have the ability by themselves. again, not saying that's a fact, cause i don't know...

but it sure seems logical.

Seems to me Sony would have to give it the go ahead from a budget POV, but it's Activision's IP so they'd have final say on whether it goes in the game or not.
 
Adding zombies would push the release back or make it become DLC. If it's DLC no one will want to buy it once they get a whiff of the quality of the full game.
 
Seems to me Sony would have to give it the go ahead from a budget POV, but it's Activision's IP so they'd have final say on whether it goes in the game or not.

right. that's what i said. if Sony were prepared to put the money up for zombies mode, their name wouldn't be in the tweet. so i deduce they weren't. if it had been half decent I'm sure Activision would have had no problem signing off on it given how the rest of the project is looking.
 
I understand the platform is Sony's but what control would they have over this game? Activision should be the only one making these calls, right?
 
right. that's what i said.

You said Sony would have the ability to do it by themselves, but i doubt they would.

E: You edited it now :P Maybe Activision think Zombies being in there would tarnish the Zombies brand or something. Or they're planning on releasing a standalone Zombies game? :P
 
Is it possible that it's Treyarch that is blocking it? Isn't Zombies mode kind of their baby and they may not want to let another studio take a stab at it, and I doubt Activision wants to piss them off now that they're the A-team for CoD.
 
I understand the platform is Sony's but what control would they have over this game? Activision should be the only one making these calls, right?
Sony is developing the game under license from Activision (and likely bankrolling the project), Activision is publishing. Nihilistic got the call to develop from Sony.
 
Sony is developing the game under license from Activision (and likely bankrolling the project), Activision is publishing. Nihilistic got the call to develop from Sony.

Has this been confirmed? I know this was an assumption around E3 time because Sony published the last couple Nihilistic games, but they are an independent studio.
 
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