SpaceBridge
Member
So Ubisoft made it to decorate store shelves or for people to play?
Judging Vita before its first Christmas is "preposterous" - Sony
- Thread starter BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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So Ubisoft made it to decorate store shelves or for people to play?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I work with kids up to age 11, and all of them were more hyped for the 3DS XL than they have ever been for the Vita. And if they're gonna be throwing down major money on a system this Christmas, it's going to be the Wii U.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I don't agree on assassins creed. It's a separate game.
Its sad too because the Vita is a great system. Marketing and price need to be in better positions so badly.
I ain't here for for playing sales sis. Most the ppl here STILL saying Vita has no games.
Ch..
Tho in the sales perspective the arguments have a point
They would if they all already owned Wii U's and they were coming out on the same day. To a lesser degree, since NSMB2 isn't a spinoff, which is something Sony needs to learn about with the Vita. Handhelds aren't just a place to put side games any more.
Um... ? Do you think making a game automatically leads to success?
chertipros
Member
the vita has street fighter x tekken this Christmas. that's enough for me 
Mario is a well established brand both on handhelds and consoles. AC? Not so much on handhelds. Its also a problem that ACIII and Liberation come within the same timeframe.
SpaceBridge
Member
It's like some of you want a one handheld future with 0.99 flash games. I don't understand it.
WTF am I reading?
First y'all were saying Vita needs unique games that aren't ports. This is one of those games and now it's not a real game and its a spin off so it doesn't exist?
You are dismissed
AranhaHunter
Banned
What will the excuse be after Christmas?
GoldandBlue
Member
Coming out at the same time with the console version is not doing it any favors. How many people are really going to know it's a separate game all together?
It's a real game, but people aren't going to see it as a game that's on the same level as Assassin's Creed III. By releasing the two games on the same day, they're stupidly putting them in competition with each other and there's a very clear winner and it's not a Vita spinoff.
Please try to wrap your head around it. I put "real" in quotation marks for a reason. Sorry if that blew your mind.
SpaceBridge
Member
It's called cross promotion, and it can work sometimes. Is it risky? Sure, but I imagine Ubisoft knows more about their business strategy and planning than you do.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I ain't here for for playing sales sis. Most the ppl here STILL saying Vita has no games.
Ch..
Tho in the sales perspective the arguments have a point
The thing is a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario
They release good shit, no one takes notice
They release stupid shit, no one takes notice
They release ports of ports, no one takes notice
So they all just lump shit together and come out with "No one takes Notice"
I will never say Vita has no games, but I will say Sony needs to get it's shit together and right the ship, if it wants Vita to be profitable for the foreseeable future
I got a few games eyed for the Vita which is surprising... I have a backlog of 5 games for the damn handheld lol
Just need to buy one of those hand controller attachments
Getting Ass Creed Lib, PSABR (Cross Buy ^_^), and COD for shits n giggles!
Oh well if a website says it's a system seller then it must be true.
I have no doubt that it's good. I doubt the masses will give a shit.
So Epic Mickey 2 has an original "spin off" title on 3DS that releases on the same day as the "real" games that everyone will only care about. Explain that. Does that get a pass? Cross promoting portable spin off games from the console counterparts has been going on for a long time now.
#DoubleStandards
#DoubleStandards
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
It's not even been a year yet... (NA/EU speaking of course)
Then wait till GDC, then E3 2013, then Gamescom 2013, then TGS 2013
Year of the PS3!, now in Vita format
But of course. It's like PSLS who gave Resistance Burning Skies a glowingly positive review stating this:
OH wait.....that game was terrible.
As for AC3L, I have interest in it but it's something I'll get in December after completing AC3.
Mentaiko_Allergy
Member
They got some solid games (despite what some think) but a price drop would have helped. They say they have got the cash for marketing, lets see what they have in store. And yeah, this thread is gonna go to shit real quick like every other vita thread.
GoldandBlue
Member
I uh, never said I knew more than them about their business plan, just throwing my two cents out there.
SpaceDrake
Member
But what are people going to *buy* this Christmas? Assassin's Creed, maybe, but... what else is there for the mass-market? There's plenty of good software coming in English this month alone, but a lot of it (Dokuro, RagOdyssey, P4G) will be hard to sell to a mainstream audience.
Sony(mostly SCEA ATM) is a hot ass MESS
Oh and I better see you getting Persona 4 tbh (add me on PSN tho
)Way to put words in my mouth.
It won't be a system seller either. It might have a better shot by 1) being on a more successful platform, and 2) being completely different from the 3D version (as in, it's not a 3D adventure game, it's a side scrolling platformer) but it's still a side game. I never said otherwise. Hell, I don't think I've ever said anything about Epic Mickey 3DS on a forum up to this point. What the hell?
The point is that there are finally decent games coming for the Vita.
It might be too little, too late.
And it'll be mildly embarrassing to Sony if it's third party titles that end up driving the sales of the console, but then again, Sony opted for the pack-in bundle with Liberation.
Perhaps it realized it didn't have a sales driver of its own so it gave up and went looking for help?
chertipros
Member
does anyone here deny that that game is a spinoff though? do people even talk about that game at all?
dragonelite
Member
I didn't lose until Sony says soo
No, as long noone is talking about Epic Mickey as a title that holds 3DS's success in its hands this Christmas.
I'm not trying to. I was giving an example of the type of game Liberation is. It's a common practice.
Father_Brain
Banned
EM: PoI might well flop, but (a) it's much more distinct, in terms of visuals and gameplay, from its console counterpart than Liberation, and (b) it's aimed at a demographic that demonstrably exists in sizable numbers on dedicated handhelds in the West.
And no one is holding it up as a savior for the 3DS.
GoofsterStud
Member
LOL. I totally read that and imagined (Bender from Futurama) saying that. >.>
Night_Trekker
Member
Exactly.
Sad to watch otherwise streetwise people try to rationalize what we all know is PR spin. Never changes though, does it?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
No, Japan doesn't count I guess.
Didn't hurt the PSP.
AC was handed off to a B team. Mario Brothers on any system Nintendo makes gets an A team.
This thread is the first I've heard of it actually.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Sony needs better PR.
And a whole new Marketing team to boot.
And a whole new Marketing team to boot.
Night_Trekker
Member
I feel like we've been saying this for a long, long time :/
Their refusal to let go of Easter last handheld generation forced Sony to revoke Japan's Christmas privileges.
Live Free or Die
Banned
Totally agree.
NSMB2 was handed off to the Mario School trainees, but the leaders were still good, if a bit stretched having to do NSMB U, too. If there is a B-team Mario game (not named Super Mario Land), it's NSMB 2.
Spiritual sequel to Genesis Mickey Mouse: World of Illusion from what the developers have said. Kind of a hearkening back to the old school Disney side-scrollers, I think.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Castle of Illusion or World of Illusion?
Father_Brain
Banned
Goddamn, the Vita OT.
Some people are just completely incapable of taking any realistic discussion of the sales potential of Vita or Vita Game X as anything other than an attack on their personal taste, no matter how many times that distinction is explained to them.
Some people are just completely incapable of taking any realistic discussion of the sales potential of Vita or Vita Game X as anything other than an attack on their personal taste, no matter how many times that distinction is explained to them.