PrivateWHudson
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That would be great. Give them a full 8 hour day in a board room/situation room setting and let them show us what they really can do. Lay out their plan to fix this mess.
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That would be great. Give them a full 8 hour day in a board room/situation room setting and let them show us what they really can do. Lay out their plan to fix this mess.
I hope whatever gets specific answers out of each of them about what they plan on doing to fix some of our problems if elected. Really hope there's at least one about the War on Drugs directed at each of them as much as everybody thinks it's exclusively a stoner question.
2am I think.
Dreamcaster
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Edited questions is asinine. I'm waiting for one of these town halls where someone gets their question approved and then goes completely off script.
The Lamonster
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It's not up to Obama. He will do well. He's proven that when he does slip up during a campaign, he rights his wrongs and comes out ahead.
And Romney will deliver a great performance once again. No one should expect otherwise. But it's not up to Romney either.
The outcome of this debate will be decided by the media. The same media that called the Biden/Ryan match a "draw" when it clearly wasn't. Assuming Obama and Romney both do well, which way will the media go? They love an underdog. They love a tight race. However, where does the race even stand right now? Electoral college favors Obama. Popular vote favors Romney. Obviously the election is decided by the EC but shouldn't the popular vote results be more important to networks like CNN because that's who their viewership is?
A big problem with "objective" networks is that they give too much validity to republicans without a plan. Instead of trying to be fair and balanced, they should be reminding viewers that one side has a plan and the other side is blowing hot air.
Candy Crowley is employed by CNN. I do not expect a fair match like the one moderated by Martha Raddatz. Do not expect a CNN employee to call out a republican for not being specific enough. CNN/NBC/ABC anchors and pundits will decide this debate, not the candidates or the braindead undecided electorate.
And Romney will deliver a great performance once again. No one should expect otherwise. But it's not up to Romney either.
The outcome of this debate will be decided by the media. The same media that called the Biden/Ryan match a "draw" when it clearly wasn't. Assuming Obama and Romney both do well, which way will the media go? They love an underdog. They love a tight race. However, where does the race even stand right now? Electoral college favors Obama. Popular vote favors Romney. Obviously the election is decided by the EC but shouldn't the popular vote results be more important to networks like CNN because that's who their viewership is?
A big problem with "objective" networks is that they give too much validity to republicans without a plan. Instead of trying to be fair and balanced, they should be reminding viewers that one side has a plan and the other side is blowing hot air.
Candy Crowley is employed by CNN. I do not expect a fair match like the one moderated by Martha Raddatz. Do not expect a CNN employee to call out a republican for not being specific enough. CNN/NBC/ABC anchors and pundits will decide this debate, not the candidates or the braindead undecided electorate.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Surprised to see a bump in Romney's numbers considering all the lies, and his standing positions, flip flopping, etc..
Yup, the same media who railed Biden for being too offensive, where Romney was 10x worse the previous debate. The "news" in this country is such a joke.
AlteredBeast
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That is only true if you consider the facts......
I am both being facetious and telling you straight.
It's due to Obama looking weak by not being able to respond. Also I don't think flip flopping is or should be a big deal. Opinions and goals of politicians should be allowed to change up until they're elected.
SnakeswithLasers
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If they have it their way, you can substitute 'election' for 'debate.'
It's a 'who watches the watchmen' scenario with the modern media.
My prediction:
Obama will still be his chill/laid back/non-confrontational Huxtable self that white American supposedly feels comfortable with. That said, his performance won't be nearly as awful, and both candidates will get brownie points from overpaid political pundits who don't know a thing about actual policy or what people outside the Beltway think, for their ability to connect to the audience. The general consensus will be that it's a tie, or a slight Romney victory, due to the expert spin of conservative media outlets, and the limp-dicked journalism of CNN. Polls will remina tight, with Obama holding narrow edges in key swing states.
Obama will still be his chill/laid back/non-confrontational Huxtable self that white American supposedly feels comfortable with. That said, his performance won't be nearly as awful, and both candidates will get brownie points from overpaid political pundits who don't know a thing about actual policy or what people outside the Beltway think, for their ability to connect to the audience. The general consensus will be that it's a tie, or a slight Romney victory, due to the expert spin of conservative media outlets, and the limp-dicked journalism of CNN. Polls will remina tight, with Obama holding narrow edges in key swing states.
My prediction: Tie.
Town hall debates suck. Most questions are pointed at one candidate. If each candidate doesn't fuck up a question, they'll both do fine. Obama will probably still lose points in the polls, and Romney will too because people will be undecided again.
Tomorrow night is going to be boring unless one of my fellow student's ask something completely off base or just blatantly attack one candidate. Which may actually happen because Hofstra has some really clueless students in the Political Science department.
Town hall debates suck. Most questions are pointed at one candidate. If each candidate doesn't fuck up a question, they'll both do fine. Obama will probably still lose points in the polls, and Romney will too because people will be undecided again.
Tomorrow night is going to be boring unless one of my fellow student's ask something completely off base or just blatantly attack one candidate. Which may actually happen because Hofstra has some really clueless students in the Political Science department.
The Lamonster
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Wonder if anyone will ask about LGBT issues tonight. It would be a refreshing reminder of a clear difference between the candidates and not something Romney will be able to lie about.
BertramCooper
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I would expect one.
Town hall debates usually have a bit more diversity in the questioning. At least from my recollection.
Baraka in the White House
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Oh for sure. But there's a difference between, "after considering X information I'm changing my stance on a policy. Not only that, my party is adopting this policy stance in their official platform," and going from audience to audience paying lip service to whatever you think they want to hear.
NekoFever
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2am, Sky News.
It's one thing to change your mind and another thing to make statements on the debate floor that your campaign takes back in the spin room an hour later.
Obama's no dummy. I'm sure he very well knows what he will and will not be able to get away with as far as how he responds to/interacts with Romney.
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Town Hall format is the worst
i dont expect anything interesting.
its gonna be both candidates repeating their campaign lines, with a lil' personal spin. Unless Candy have some hard follow ups.
i dont expect anything interesting.
its gonna be both candidates repeating their campaign lines, with a lil' personal spin. Unless Candy have some hard follow ups.
Deified Data
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You know, the funny thing about CNN is that GAF thinks it goes too easy on Republicans, while Republicans think they're too soft on Democrats. By trying to be "balanced" they're effectively alienating everyone. All the Republicans I know think they're as liberal as MSNBC, shit you not.
This sums up my prediction nicely.
Prediction:
I will make an epic thread demanding something insanely untrue prior to November 6th.
I think Romney is going to still appear to be his fatherly type of which is going to resonate with more people including women and swing states. If Obama tries to go Joe Biden on Romney he will look like a dick and further dig his grave by basically giving the election to Rmoney/Ryan.
I will make an epic thread demanding something insanely untrue prior to November 6th.
I think Romney is going to still appear to be his fatherly type of which is going to resonate with more people including women and swing states. If Obama tries to go Joe Biden on Romney he will look like a dick and further dig his grave by basically giving the election to Rmoney/Ryan.
I would agree with the outcome, but I think Obama gets the edge from the media this time around.
R-money, baby.
shadyspace
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If he's still adhering to this dumb myth it's his own damn fault.
It is pretty funny.
You mean the first was a joke? Edit: or the last presidential debate, I guess
Well, if you are referring to the specific Republican primary process with having to appeal to some pretty right wing Republicans (ie Iowa, South Carolina) then yes, I have no problem with them walking back some of the social right stuff they have to say to grab those voters.
Im with you. Very irritating. This is basically a "likeable" debate.
Yeah, the moderator in the first presidential debate was the worst I've ever seen :|
gutter_trash
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Candy Crawly is going to ruin the debate. She is really dense
she is one of the blind news people who believed that Sarah Palin would run for President in 2012.
helloooooooooo! Palin only cared about TV shows, books, Sarah Pac and money. Palin played the media for fools and Crawly is the biggest fool of them all.
she is one of the blind news people who believed that Sarah Palin would run for President in 2012.
helloooooooooo! Palin only cared about TV shows, books, Sarah Pac and money. Palin played the media for fools and Crawly is the biggest fool of them all.
thecouncil
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i thought she wasnt allowed to ask follow ups. shes basically just... there.
ThisWreckage
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If Obama tries to be aggressive in a town hall type debate it will backfire on him. It's not the proper environment for him to grow balls.
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Why do they look like cardboard cutouts...
Agent Ironside
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So do they go out and pick the most unattractive moderators they can possibly find? Is this to keep the candidates mind on task?
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Are all the moderator females from the democratic party?!
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Are all the moderator females from the democratic party?!
I definitely have a problem with that. If you're going to kowtow to shit-heals, then you need to take responsibility when its pointed out you have crap on your shoes. I don't think you can just take one position at one point when it's politically expedient, and then take a completely different one later, especially when you're running for the same position. I mean I can see changing positions when you're running a different race at a different time, but they're running for the same presidency this whole fucking time. They really shouldn't be able to tell people they'll support X thing and then later completely disavow that thing.
I guess I'll accept phrasing things a bit differently for different audiences. That's fine, but if you're literally taking different policy positions, then I have a problem.
speculawyer
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Sounds like an Obama win then.
Lv99 Slacker
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Um. Has Jill Stein and her VP been arrested? I think they tried to crash this townhall. So far, the only source on this possible story is RT.
I agree, and in a perfect world it would be great.
But it just doesn't work like that in the early goings.
Thus, it is usually a swing towards the middle, so yeah, not a huge problem with it as a practical matter.
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