US Town Hall Debate |OT| When is the election? What are the names of the candidates?

Status
Not open for further replies.
besada said:
I'd love to see Stein and Johnson in these debates. Talk about letting the cat among the pigeons. It would have zero effect on the chances of a third party to win in the U.S., but I imagine it would be difficult for the real candidates to stay on script in the middle of that chaos. Someone might get confused and say something interesting.
Click to expand...

The absolute theater that can result from bringing up issues like warantless wiretapping, the drug war, marijuana legalization, bank/auto/airline bailouts, campaign finance reform with Obama and Romney actually having to answer for their positions would be sweet.
 
MagniHarvald said:
Let's do this!

pigeon, here's the Daily Beast's stream, Urtak, debate bingo, and live chat: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/16/presidential-debate-dashboard-round-2.html Their coverage starts in twenty minutes.
Click to expand...

Thanks! Edited in.

Shrinnan said:
Either way, he was more aggressive than Romney was, which is what I was responding to. I've seen polls showing a tie or that Biden won, but I haven't counted the polls to determine who technically came out on top but Biden could have won the debate by a large majority if he controlled his mannerisms.

The thing is, I wasn't trying to respond about who won that debate, I was just responding to the aggression angle to the person I quoted (who said the media determined it a tie). There's a way to be aggressive and Biden handled that aspect poorly while Romney did it masterfully.
Click to expand...

Biden did win the debate by a large majority according to the polls, actually. There's only one poll that called it close, it just happened to be the CNN snap poll.
 
Alcibiades said:
The absolute theater that can result from bringing up issues like warantless wiretapping, the drug war, marijuana legalization, bank/auto/airline bailouts, campaign finance reform with Obama and Romney actually having to answer for their positions would be sweet.
Click to expand...

This would be beyond amazing.
 
Alcibiades said:
The absolute theater that can result from bringing up issues like warantless wiretapping, the drug war, marijuana legalization, bank/auto/airline bailouts, campaign finance reform with Obama and Romney actually having to answer for their positions would be sweet.
Click to expand...

If marijuana gets legalized in Colorado, I don't think we'll make it the rest of the decade without the federal position changing.
 
People that vote third party/don't vote (national elections) don't operate in a rational capacity, sorry yo.

"I'm voting green party because democrats aren't left enough, so what if that aids a party even further from my beliefs"

"I'm not voting because I don't like either candidate, surely that also separates me from whatever decisions they make and my protest registered"
 
pigeon said:
If marijuana gets legalized in Colorado, I don't think we'll make it the rest of the decade without the federal position changing.
Click to expand...

I think there is a really great chance for Washington and Colorado, with a small chance for Oregon to do it. It as about time. If it happens in 2 states (+ medical in MA), the others will follow.
 
pigeon said:
Biden did win the debate by a large majority according to the polls, actually. There's only one poll that called it close, it just happened to be the CNN snap poll.
Click to expand...

I made a mistake by using the term polls - I meant media analysis, not polls. The media can control perceptions after a debate and Biden needed to control his mannerisms for the media to call it in his favor by and large based on debate principles. Regular people shouldn't care too much about that, although I've heard arguments that Biden's aggression was a turnoff for the women vote. Still, the VP debates have little impact either way.
 
Snowden's Secret said:
People that vote third party/don't vote (national elections) don't operate in a rational capacity, sorry yo.

"I'm voting green party because democrats aren't left enough, so what if that aids a party even further from my beliefs"

"I'm not voting because I don't like either candidate, surely that also separates me from whatever decisions they make and my protest registered"
Click to expand...

Very black and white thinking.
 
Snowden's Secret said:
People that vote third party/don't vote (national elections) don't operate in a rational capacity, sorry yo.

"I'm voting green party because democrats aren't left enough, so what if that aids a party even further from my beliefs"

"I'm not voting because I don't like either candidate, surely that also separates me from whatever decisions they make and my protest registered"
Click to expand...

People that accept and enable the 2 party bullshit are the ones who aren't operating in a rational capacity, and they've done far more damage to the country than any "wasted" votes have. Sorry, yo.
 
gutter_trash said:
undecideds = morons
Click to expand...

oNsBG.png

never forget
 
besada said:
I'd love to see Stein and Johnson in these debates. Talk about letting the cat among the pigeons. It would have zero effect on the chances of a third party to win in the U.S., but I imagine it would be difficult for the real candidates to stay on script in the middle of that chaos. Someone might get confused and say something interesting.
Click to expand...

When was the last debate with a third party candidate? Ross Perot in '92? I was too young to remember everything back then but I remember him being extremely popular for a third party candidate and probably the closest to a "actual third party" option we've had in years.

BTW A+ title OP.
 
Mudkips said:
People that accept and enable the 2 party bullshit are the ones who aren't operating in a rational capacity, and they've done far more damage to the country than any "wasted" votes have. Sorry, yo.
Click to expand...

that is very cute but system in place makes it impossible right now for a 3rd party reality.

Perhaps 80 years ago yeah but not anymore.
 
You guys better pray for a Romney Gaffe. That's pretty much the only way Obama will decisively win this debate. Romney is too slippery otherwise.
 
I know Obama can do it tonight, but I'm worried that the debate format itself won't be too conducive for gaining the upper hand in a major way. As long as he defends himself and keeps on Romney, then he should be good.
 
Snowden's Secret said:
People that vote third party/don't vote (national elections) don't operate in a rational capacity, sorry yo.

"I'm voting green party because democrats aren't left enough, so what if that aids a party even further from my beliefs"

"I'm not voting because I don't like either candidate, surely that also separates me from whatever decisions they make and my protest registered"
Click to expand...

Awesome notion: Ask a real third party voter, regardless of affiliation, why they're voting third party instead of arguing against a strawman. Or is that the only way you can win?
 
ezekial45 said:
I know Obama can do it tonight, but I'm worried that the debate format itself won't be too conducive for gaining the upper hand in a major way. As long as he defends himself and keeps on Romney, then he said be good.
Click to expand...

Obama's job is to stop the momentum that Romney is getting from his first debate. The next two debates likely won't have much impact as far as increasing momentum either way; only if Romney wins this next one, then his momentum will keep up but once they tie it should stop. I don't expect Romney to pull a win this time.

It's kinda unprecedented that Romney is even getting as much momentum as he is from that first debate. Romney really helped himself out with that one.
 
Shrinnan said:
Obama's job is to stop the momentum that Romney is getting from his first debate. The next two debates likely won't have much impact as far as increasing momentum either way; only if Romney wins this next one, then his momentum will keep up but once they tie it should stop. I don't expect Romney to pull a win this time.

It's kinda unprecedented that Romney is even getting as much momentum as he is from that first debate. Romney really helped himself out with that one.
Click to expand...

It was a huge win and vaulted his campaign into a real contender. I don't have any numbers, but I'm sure it help with fundraising as well.
 
speedline said:
It was a huge win and vaulted his campaign into a real contender. I don't have any numbers, but I'm sure it help with fundraising as well.
Click to expand...

It surely helped his fundraising by quite a bit, I would imagine. If Romney wins this thing, then that debate will be what most assume to be the reason.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

What happens when the majority of content on the internet is AI generated?
2
84
417
I collect VHS tapes replied
  • Locked
Canada's election results are in
8
146
Jaybe replied
TikTok has shut down in the US (UP: TikTok is in the process of restoring service in the US)
2 3 4 5 6
298
14K
phil_t98 replied
What is the point of NeoGAF discord?
18
1K
eddie4 replied
What if the Treaty of Kanagawa never happened?
Opinion 
20
319
kentkouh replied
Top Bottom