Gallup: R 52-O 45 Time to Worry?

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Given the amount of terrorist attacks that have killed Americans on Obama's watch, it's no surprise they have turned on him. Romney may be weird but he's serious and will keep us safe.
 
Romney's a moderate, no matter what he says otherwise. He's just slightly worse at lying than most politicians. His potential Supreme Court nominations are much more threatening than he is.
 
Romney's a moderate, no matter what he says otherwise. He's just slightly worse at lying than most politicians. His potential Supreme Court nominations are much more threatening than he is.

Romney is whatever he has to be to win votes. If being ultraconservative in office is beneficial to him he will do it. Romney has no true political stance besides getting more money and power for Romney
 

Kusagari

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Romney's a moderate, no matter what he says otherwise. He's just slightly worse at lying than most politicians. His potential Supreme Court nominations are much more threatening than he is.

Nobody cares if Romney is actually a moderate in his real opinions (if he has any).

Do you really think Romney will stand up to a Republican Congress against batshit insane bills?
 

Guevara

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Yeah there's no difference between Obama and Romney... unless you're gay or poor or a woman or an immigrant or just believe those people should have basic rights and protections.
 

genjiZERO

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It's amazing how Matt Stone and Trey Parker have managed to convince people they are capable of informed commentary.

Because they make great commentary. In this situation it seems apt to me. I'm voting for Obama (because I live in a swing state - if I didn't I'd vote for Jill Stein), but I'm not happy with him. His policies don't represent my interests and values. I'm literally only voting for him because he's not a Republican.
 

aparisi2274

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GAF,

Romney is up by 7% in the latest Gallup. I'm really starting to worry now. I've never been much into politics until the past couple of years. I'm liberal leaning and a democrat. I'm reasonable though so I can stomach a moderate Republican in the White House. Romney terrifies me though. I've never seen such a slimey in your face politician with lies that spill out of their mouths as easily as Romney. His entitled and manic behavior also concerns me.

Please put me at ease. Is the Gallup poll a fluke???

The poll measures likely voters, with the latest results spanning interviews from Oct. 10-16. The poll would not yet have factored in voters' views after the second presidential debate, which was held Tuesday.
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Don't fret. Reuters, TIPPS, and RAND all have leads for Obama. All swing about four points toward him on average this past week. Gallup is the only one going the other way.

Even the one time polls showing Obama leading. Look at gallup's region breakdown. Obama up all but the South.
 
Also, if you're concerned and this really is important to you, go volunteer. If you're in a swing state or even close to one, you can probably find a way to get out to a campaign office that needs you. I went out to Nevada last weekend (I live in California) and spent a couple days knocking on doors and making calls for the Romney campaign - and I know the Obama campaign is trying to get people to do the same thing, too, because I'm signed up for their emails (I was a reluctant, last-minute supporter in 2008). It's mind-numbingly boring and not terribly rewarding (mostly just identifying supporters and giving them mail/early vote info, general GOTV stuff at this point), but every little bit helps. It's like giving yourself an extra vote for every net vote that occurs because of you.
 
Are you suggesting that those polled are just now realizing the President is black?
I managed a restaurant in the south four years ago and heard a conversation where a guy actually said he wasn't worried about Obama becoming president because he figured Obama'd be dead inside a year anyways.

Maybe they're even madder at the uppity way he's still breathing?
 

Patryn

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Gallup's internals have been showing Obama up everywhere except the South. He's losing horribly in the south, which isn't surprising. As long as that keeps up, I'm not really going to panic. He wasn't going to win the south, and the electoral college makes it so that even if all those southerners go try and vote him out it won't matter. Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin matter.

Yeah, doesn't Gallup have Romney up by a ridiculous amount in the South, but Obama narrowly winning everywhere else, and that Southern margin is just killing Obama overall?
 

Clevinger

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The truth is that there is no difference between the candidates. They are two boxes of soap powder with identical content but different boxes. Hope this helps.

the truth is this post and a bag full of dogshit are the same. they have different containers, but are filled with identical intellectual content
 

Diablos

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How likely is it that Florida will go Romney?
Pretty damn likely.

The Obama camp needs to take everything out of FL and NC - they are gone. They'd be better off spreading those resources out in VA and CO.

Romney's a moderate, no matter what he says otherwise. He's just slightly worse at lying than most politicians. His potential Supreme Court nominations are much more threatening than he is.
A "moderate" who will repeal the national version of his own health bill, make the Bush tax cuts look liberal, act like a manchild when dealing with foreign affairs (particularly the middle east), eliminate tax deductions that lots of families depend on, and yes, appoint Bork-like justices to the SCOTUS.

He is not a moderate. He was forced to be in Mass. because he had to work with a deep blue legislature.
 

Tim-E

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Pretty damn likely.

The Obama camp needs to take everything out of FL and NC - they are gone. They'd be better off spreading those resources out in VA and CO.

I don't think Florida is "gone," but I do think their efforts would be better spent in those two states.
 

pigeon

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Also, if you're concerned and this really is important to you, go volunteer. If you're in a swing state or even close to one, you can probably find a way to get out to a campaign office that needs you. I went out to Nevada last weekend (I live in California) and spent a couple days knocking on doors and making calls for the Romney campaign - and I know the Obama campaign is trying to get people to do the same thing, too, because I'm signed up for their emails (I was a reluctant, last-minute supporter in 2008). It's mind-numbingly boring and not terribly rewarding (mostly just identifying supporters and giving them mail/early vote info, general GOTV stuff at this point), but every little bit helps. It's like giving yourself an extra vote for every net vote that occurs because of you.

I agree with this, except that if you support Romney, your efforts are probably better served making sure Romney doesn't lose Arizona, so I recommend you direct your efforts there.

How likely is it that Florida will go Romney?

It's about even.
 

FuturusX

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The truth is that there is no difference between the candidates. They are two boxes of soap powder with identical content but different boxes. Hope this helps.

What's the equivalent of color blind for political candidates? Apart from stupid.

Given the amount of terrorist attacks that have killed Americans on Obama's watch, it's no surprise they have turned on him. Romney may be weird but he's serious and will keep us safe.

I wish you were a better troll...Trolls serve their purpose, they should always be funny and say something genuinely inflammatory. But you sir...are straight up yawn inducing. Up your game.
 

border

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After the 2000 Bush election, I would love to hear all the sour grapes and whining that might occur in the event that Obama wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote.

At the same time, I'd hate to see it since it would support the delusional conservative narrative that they are this sad and oppressed majority.
 

thekad

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Gallup is the holy grail of pollsters. With only 3 weeks left until the election, you can pretty much wrap this this up. President Romney.
 

Jonm1010

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Pretty damn likely.

The Obama camp needs to take everything out of FL and NC - they are gone. They'd be better off spreading those resources out in VA and CO.


A "moderate" who will repeal the national version of his own health bill, make the Bush tax cuts look liberal, act like a manchild when dealing with foreign affairs (particularly the middle east), eliminate tax deductions that lots of families depend on, and yes, appoint Bork-like justices to the SCOTUS.

He is not a moderate. He was forced to be in Mass. because he had to work with a deep blue legislature.

Why leave Florida?

He's not out of it and he's not out of money?

Ohio on the other hand is pretty locked up.

For the sheer fact that if Obama does continue to campaign for Florida Romney and Ryan must take time away from campaigning in Colorado and Virginia, two places they desperately need even with Florida.
 

Cyan

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Did you ever learn about progressive tax rates?

He might as well just come clean, admit that he was wrong and made up the story.

I mean, there'll still be some mockery, but at least it won't be this ongoing thing that he has to constantly flee from.
 

Rentahamster

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Not time to worry, you doth protest too much.

It would be really funny to see Romney win the popular vote but Obama win the electoral college. Heads exploded everywhere.

Another note - Many of us like to think that Obama is a closet athiest and a closet supporter of gay marriage despite his recent claims, due to his more liberal stances in the past. As we have seen, this is half true given his recent support of gay marriage.

However, Romney is in a similar position, with noted liberal stances advocated in the past, relative to his stated positions now. But everyone takes that at face value.
 
Gallup is the holy grail of pollsters. With only 3 weeks left until the election, you can pretty much wrap this this up. President Romney.

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The truth is that there is no difference between the candidates. They are two boxes of soap powder with identical content but different boxes. Hope this helps.


This is such unmitigated horse shit. People said the same thing about Bush and Gore. How that turn out for you?
 

TheNatural

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Gallup is the holy grail of pollsters. With only 3 weeks left until the election, you can pretty much wrap this this up. President Romney.

Learn the poll differences. It seems like anyone can come up with a poll to indicate something these days:

Gallup has two models working. LV (Likely Voters) and RV (Registered Voters). LV has Romney +7 and RV has Romney +1.

Also in Gallup model Obama is up in every region other than the South. In the South, Obama is -22.
 
It's amazing how much the south hates Obama. I wonder why the south hates Obama so so much more than any other region of the US? I wonder ...
 

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This is such unmitigated horse shit. People said the same thing about Bush and Gore. How that turn out for you?

The people that follow the "both candidates are the same" line of thinking are generally 18-25. Which is to say the don't even remember Bush v. Gore.

The people that said it during the 2000 Election have more than likely wised up.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
It's amazing how Matt Stone and Trey Parker have managed to convince people they are capable of informed commentary.

I went to college with those guys. I've seen them convince people to do an amazing number if things
 

DarkFlow

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Romney scares you when Obama signs thing like the NDAA, want to take away our 2nd amendment, has subpeoned and arrested more journalists than any pres ever ect ect.

No these polls dont matter the election doesnt really matter but scared is the right reaction.

The system has been hijacked and we the people dont matter.

Edit posting on an iphone
Stop listening to right wing radio. Obama has done nothing to hurt guns.
 

zomaha

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i've never been asked to participate in any poll, so naturally they don't reflect america's views properly.
 
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