Square Enix Member Survey-What qualities do you like most about Lightning?

Aya Brea is 10x the video game woman that Lightning is.

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Dark Schala said:
God, Parasite Eve 1 was so good. Aya was fantastic.
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I also blame it on the fans who watched Aya's shower scene in YouTube too much and demanded more sexy Aya thus we got clothes-ripping Aya with a near-sex shower scene.
 
Dark Schala said:
Shadow. They brought him back from the dead in Sonic Heroes because people resonated with the character so much, and then gave him his own game called "Shadow the Hedgehog" which played differently from some other Sonic games because you now had access to guns and crap... and you had different ending to pursue, etc.
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So if FF13 is Sonic Adventure 2, 13-2 is Sonic Heroes, and Lightning Returns is Shadow the Hedgehog then things do not bode well for Final Fantasy XV.

To be honest, Lightning bores me. She just not interesting as a character. I don't hate her, not really. I just don't care. Well, she has a nice gunsword thing, which is pretty neat in that over-designed kind of way. But I stopped playing FF13 because I really didn't care what was going to happen to the characters, or the world for that matter. The only real compelling story was Sahz and his attempt to get his son back.
 
In all seriousness:

Lightning's best quality is probably her appearance.

Her outfit provides a lot of dark/light scale value and has just enough conflicting color tones to make her appear to be strong. The creases and folds of the outfit are hard and the textures also match this. Her haircut is feminine in design and she has a pinkish tone to the hair that contrasts very well with her tan jacket.

Of course, she has a typically ideal build. No oversized breasts, cleavage, or excessive make-up. She has slender legs and some sort of miniskirt to make them appear longer. Although slender, she wears an arm-band and a sports-sleeve to make her biceps look strong. Her eye shape and color along with her brow make her look assertive.

Her over-all design is good; it has hit a some sort of objective checklist for a "beautiful, young lady".

But like the game, she's mostly all style and no substance.

ArtGAF, did I hit the mark?
 
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Even Serah knows it!

Syril said:
I was reading somewhere that the English translation is partly to blame for that, mainly for translating a lot of his sarcastic remarks as "Whatever." I have a feeling Neku from The World Ends With You is probably closer to how he was supposed to come off.

I think it's pretty telling that the other characters have their personality traits exaggerated when they make crossover appearances, but Squall is actually toned down.
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I played the game in another language more faithful to the original Japanese script (he said "Sorry" instead of "Whatever" for example") and he still terrible.

Squall is awful for appealing all the 11 years old angsty teenagers, but at least SE didn't try to shove him in your throat like this.
 
I also don't get the franchising of FFXIII. I suppose it was successful, but did it reach the monumental success and acclaim of the previous titles? Are they trying to force another FFVII by ramming it down our throats? Why Square? WHY
 
Forkball said:
I also don't get the franchising of FFXIII. I suppose it was successful, but did it reach the monumental success and acclaim of the previous titles? Are they trying to force another FFVII by ramming it down our throats? Why Square? WHY
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They have said they wanted XIII to be the next VII from the outset. Compilation and all.
 
Forkball said:
I also don't get the franchising of FFXIII. I suppose it was successful, but did it reach the monumental success and acclaim of the previous titles? Are they trying to force another FFVII by ramming it down our throats? Why Square? WHY
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Right - they just don't get it. People want to escape into a fantasy world where they feel and see the impact. They want to be challenged by that world in a meaningful way. They want to relate to characters. FFXIII did a poor job of this, but SE must have invested so much into the assets that they have to break even by cramming.

They were hoping that lightning would strike twice.
 
Forkball said:
I also don't get the franchising of FFXIII. I suppose it was successful, but did it reach the monumental success and acclaim of the previous titles? Are they trying to force another FFVII by ramming it down our throats? Why Square? WHY
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I think they are mainly doing it because XIV 2.0 is taking up most of their HD resources.

So they decided to pump out cheaper XIII sequels to have some sort of Japanese side HD output while that mess sorts itself out.
 
we.are.the.armada said:
In all seriousness:

Lightning's best quality is probably her appearance.

Her outfit provides a lot of dark/light scale value and has just enough conflicting color tones to make her appear to be strong. The creases and folds of the outfit are hard and the textures also match this. Her haircut is feminine in design and she has a pinkish tone to the hair that contrasts very well with her tan jacket.

Of course, she has a typically ideal build. No oversized breasts, cleavage, or excessive make-up. She has slender legs and some sort of miniskirt to make them appear longer. Although slender, she wears an arm-band and a sports-sleeve to make her biceps look strong. Her eye shape and color along with her brow make her look assertive.

Her over-all design is good; it has hit a some sort of objective checklist for a "beautiful, young lady".

But like the game, she's mostly all style and no substance.

ArtGAF, did I hit the mark?
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Im not ArtGaf, but it sounds reasonable to me.
 
MagiusNecros said:
But alas fans could not see the thunder. Thus sending SE into a jolt. Shocking I know?

I better stop bolting out all these puns.
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Haha, the chances of being struck by lightning in the USA is like 1/700,000. So if the game sold, I dunno, a couple million... then uh... a couple of people really like Lightning. Fuck it, I dunno I'm saying.
 
MGrant said:
Fran, Ashe, Agrias, Lucca, Schala, Faris. I could go on, but these characters actually show emotion, are cool, are useful to the plot beyond being a Mary Sue or a main romantic interest, and exhibit development that actually engages the player. I wish I could say the same for Lightning, but maybe I'm missing something, or maybe it's just different strokes.
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I'd say that the type of character she is and the way she acts in the game appeals to me more than all the other female characters in FF games (I notice I forgot to put the FF part in that first post I wrote in this thread, not that it changes much, I know people mostly wouldn't agree with me on this).
 
MagiusNecros said:
I think it's more XIII basically sold on name recognition.
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I know right! Don't get me wrong, I like FF13, I beat it 3 times - but the entire time I was playing it, I thought to myself, "If they named this game something else, people might like it". Final Fantasy has big shoes to fill and fans have a preconception forged over years.

They should have made it a new IP, called it Pulse or something, and just left it at that. Hell, they could have called FF13-2 Chrono Pulse after making a few slight changes.
 
To be fair, what's the real audience SE is targeting with this question? This just brings back the whole "teens as the main target of the franchise" that keeps coming up.
 
She is perfect in every way. No wonder they gave her three games. Your favorite characters wish they had many good games and as much charisma as her.
 
Esura said:
It could be argued that every FF post VII sold on name recognition.
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And then the overhype, and 2006 announcement kick in, and then post release the whole "blame on western thinking" sets in, then we have a sequel no one really wanted, with handpicked scenes to make it greater then it was, fans gave it a 2nd throw, and yet look at what they were given.

It reminds me of a play I went to see a couple days ago. It was terrible. Crude and ill-conceived.

XIII had promise but it's poor execution and lackluster mechanics and writing make it suffer.
 
Glad to see that I'm not the only one finding Square's obession with Lightning creepy.

I'm beginning to suspect that behind closed doors at SE she's being genitically engineered from Gackt X-chromosomes.
 
Boerseun said:
Just like Final Fantasy fans have been sacrificing their happiness for the sake of Square Enix's bottom line.
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Nice one.
The comments on that page is not helping. Only positive and no negatives. Haha!

Lightning is hot, as shallow as that may sound. All flash and no substance?
SE is obsessed with her for no reason.

So many other female leads that stand out easily above her like Terra, Aya, Agrias and Celes.
 
LuuKyK said:
She is perfect in every way. No wonder they gave her three games. Your favorite characters wish they had many good games and as much charisma as her.
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I think that good characters are good because of their flaws and how we as an audience can relate to those. The problem with Lightning is that this is never established because we're shown that her cantankerous nature is somewhat baseless prior to the events that send her on her character arch. If you compare this to say, FFIV's Cecil, then you start to see that a simple game from 1991 presented its main character to the audience in a more ideal way for the medium than FFXIII did. Which is a shame because I like FFXIII and I like Lightning.
 
My positive comment was approved.

The writers' obsession with a Mary Sue type of character. Liking Lightning requires a fine taste on fanfiction writing, which is fitting for a product marketed to those who are yet too young to have developed their taste.
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