Halo 4 Story Spoilers and Speculations

Do all your chapters have the legendary logo clear next to them? I had to to go back and replay one mission thanks to that stupid Halo save and quit but that's been around forever...
Yeah, they do. I got the achievement and everything.

Maybe you blinked at the wrong time.
Possibly.

Edit* nope, I just watched the epilogue again, it gave me the normal ending. Does this ending only show up if you solo legendary? If so, maybe that's what it is.
 
Promethean weapon racks killed it for me.

Your ancient, highly advanced race has weapons that can transform and reform and instead of being able to store them on units in little cubes or blink them in, we just hang them on magazine racks.
Its such a small thing, but that bummed me out too. So safe and so uncreative. Even such a small thing was an opportunity to showcase how the Forerunner and their technology is different, alien, working in mysterious ways, but nope. The idea of racks doesn't even make that much sense.
 
Yeah, they do. I got the achievement and everything.


Possibly.

Edit* nope, I just watched the epilogue again, it gave me the normal ending. Does this ending only show up if you solo legendary? If so, maybe that's what it is.

Yep, it only shows on solo legendary, which I noticed today after finishing legendary for the second time.
 
Stuff I've been thinking about:

Who is the man talking to Halsey at the prologue? They make a point of Halsey saying he is not ONI.

Why do they keep referring to cortana's physicality? They do this through the scene where she talks about feeling the suns warmth, the scene where she touches the chief and in hasley's diary entry at the crash site.

She disappears when the composer is active, which is a tool to turn physical forms into digital and vice versa.

Same time, the Didact falls into a slip space field.

My theory is its the Didact talking to Hasley in the prologue, but that is not Hasley, it's cortana. But it is in some alternate reality based in that geas ( can't remember what it was called in primordium). Cortana is being interrogated by the Didact before being consumed by him or changed into physical form for some purpose. The prologue is actually taking part at the end if Halo 4's story.

Probably a load of bollocks.

Well, they talked about the composer turning people from biological to...ditigal? or whatever prometheans are. So maybe Cortana to human?
 
Isn't he dead?

He fell into a slipspace portal, so no.

If you watch the terminals, the Librarian spared him in the hopes he would accept Humanity as the heir to the mantle, I wouldn't be surprised if he sees the error of his ways or something stupid like that down the line. His ending monologue also sounds like he doesn't like that humanity has taken all that should belong to forerunner, but that the "reclamation has already begun, and we are hopeless to stop it." So he seems to accept it at least.

Its such a small thing, but that bummed me out too. So safe and so uncreative. Even such a small thing was an opportunity to showcase how the Forerunner and their technology is different, alien, working in mysterious ways, but nope. The idea of racks doesn't even make that much sense.

How about the guns animated from the wall, or you have a "rack" that's just a solid chunk of metal, and you pull the grip from it and the gun forms from slices off the larger chunk.

Just anything besides a weapon rack.


So what's the point of the legendary ending? Are his eyes like a forerunners now with the giant pupil or can I just not see the whites because of the shadow?
 
If Halo 5 is set on Earth, with just chief and no AI, I will be heavily disappointed.

This is something from the first CG bit of Spartan Ops and not campaign, so I guess I'll tag it just to be safe:
Apparently the Infinity has an AI. Maybe that will be chief's companion in Halo 5?

If Chief gets a new AI (and I hope he does) in Halo 5, I'd like to see him paired up with someone different than Cortana. A more aggressive AI that isn't so motherly, perhaps. Something like Durga from the I Love Bees series would be awesome.
 
Flesh out the prometheans (+ do more to make the watchers more interesting to fight) and add the halo 3 brutes and drones to the covenant and it'd be perfect.

I think unless they pull some other splinter covenant group out of their ass, this is hopefully the last we see of them as enemies for a while.

Fightin side-by-side with the arbiter as battle bros again is whats needed.
 
I think unless they pull some other splinter covenant group out of their ass, this is hopefully the last we see of them as enemies for a while.

Fightin side-by-side with the arbiter as battle bros again is whats needed.

I wouldn't mind one level fighting against the covenant i.e the brutes in reach - but hopefully the days of them being the primary antagonists are long gone after halo 4.
 
If Halo 5 is set on Earth, with just chief and no AI, I will be heavily disappointed.

This is something from the first CG bit of Spartan Ops and not campaign, so I guess I'll tag it just to be safe:
Apparently the Infinity has an AI. Maybe that will be chief's companion in Halo 5?

I'm still guessing we'll either get a new, Cortana-like A.I., or we'll get the voice of the Librarian keeping us company after she mentored the Chief's "mutation".
 
Cortana will not return. At least not in the form we're used to. (I'm not suggesting she'll be humanized).

Put yourself in the Chief's shoes for a minute. What would you want to do after taking your amour off on earth?
- Inform Halsey? probably
- Live a long and prosperous life by the beach? Hell no.
- Get a new Cortana? Nope.
- Go chasing after the Didact? No, Chief would think he's dead.

The only starting encounter I can think of is the Forerunners coming to Earth. Therefore the Chief will know that the Didact isn't dead.

Chief will be screwed without Cortana though. It doesn't seem like they've left much room for a sequel... Very odd.
 
Put yourself in the Chief's shoes for a minute. What would you want to do after taking your amour off on earth?

This is a Spartan II we're talking about. All they know how to do is wage war. Of course he's going to want to be back in the mix of things. It has been said in the books that Spartans get jumpy when they're NOT fighting, because fighting is their norm. Its like they say in the intro with Halsey, some may call them sociopaths. And there's an incredible amount of room for a sequel. Other shield worlds? One of the Covenant home planets? Human colonies? The great thing about 343 is that I feel like they're actually willing to take us new places. Halo 4 almost serves as a series reboot.

I think unless they pull some other splinter covenant group out of their ass, this is hopefully the last we see of them as enemies for a while.

I doubt that they're completely gone. We'll still fight them here and there, but I think the focus will be on them less and less for Halo 5 and 6, as more and more of the Prometheans and/or Forerunners is fleshed out and revealed to us.
 
And there's an incredible amount of room for a sequel. Other shield worlds? One of the Covenant home planets? Human colonies? The great thing about 343 is that I feel like they're actually willing to take us new places. Halo 4 almost serves as a series reboot.
What you're describing sounds like a Halo Location Generator, not a direct sequel. There's no story reason to go to any of those places next. Or anywhere, really.
I also don't know where your confidence in 343 as a tour guide comes from, when this game takes you to the ball-shaped Halo we've been expecting for five years (which is perfectly fine and in theory more than enough) and then back into Earth's orbit... and then back inside the same ball, "six months later".
 
I really didn't care for how they used the Covenant in this game. They're just... there. No explanation, they're just there to be enemies. I was thinking at the very least we'd get an explanation after what happened in Halo 3, even just a brief line or two on it, but no, nothing.
 
Cortana will not return. At least not in the form we're used to. (I'm not suggesting she'll be humanized).

Put yourself in the Chief's shoes for a minute. What would you want to do after taking your amour off on earth?
- Inform Halsey? probably
- Live a long and prosperous life by the beach? Hell no.
- Get a new Cortana? Nope.
- Go chasing after the Didact? No, Chief would think he's dead.

The only starting encounter I can think of is the Forerunners coming to Earth. Therefore the Chief will know that the Didact isn't dead.

Chief will be screwed without Cortana though. It doesn't seem like they've left much room for a sequel... Very odd.

I think Chief will get a new AI. He has to. It could be a Cortana clone but then he'll encounter the 'real' cortana and shit'll get tense brah.
 
so, what was the big deal about blue vs orange prometheans? i keep expecting something, ala the librarian's forces vs the didacts, but i completed the game and never noticed each "class".
 
I youtubed the ending and it was a little confusing.
Master Chief sets off a nuke, then gets teleported into cyberspace, survives the explosion and then is back floating in space. Could someone explain what happened?
 
I youtubed the ending and it was a little confusing.
Master Chief sets off a nuke, then gets teleported into cyberspace, survives the explosion and then is back floating in space. Could someone explain what happened?

Cortana teleports the Chief at the moment he detonates the nuke.

so, what was the big deal about blue vs orange prometheans? i keep expecting something, ala the librarian's forces vs the didacts, but i completed the game and never noticed each "class".
I don't think there was anything more to that other than to display that the Didact wasn't in control while he was imprisoned in his Cryptum.
 
What you're describing sounds like a Halo Location Generator, not a direct sequel. There's no story reason to go to any of those places next. Or anywhere, really.
I also don't know where your confidence in 343 as a tour guide comes from, when this game takes you to the ball-shaped Halo we've been expecting for five years (which is perfectly fine and in theory more than enough) and then back into Earth's orbit... and then back inside the same ball, "six months later".

We went to installation 03 as well.
 
This game's storyline has firmly entered comic book retcon territory.

I look forward to increasingly random flailings to create new ultimate dooms in the coming Halo games.
 
I really didn't care for how they used the Covenant in this game. They're just... there. No explanation, they're just there to be enemies. I was thinking at the very least we'd get an explanation after what happened in Halo 3, even just a brief line or two on it, but no, nothing.
Explanation is in the expanded fiction (books). I agree they should have explained it better in the game, however.
 
Explanation is in the expanded fiction (books). I agree they should have explained it better in the game, however.

I thought that was one of the things that 343 was supposed to do, incorporate the expanded fiction into the game. Didn't turn out that well.
 
What you're describing sounds like a Halo Location Generator, not a direct sequel. There's no story reason to go to any of those places next. Or anywhere, really.
I also don't know where your confidence in 343 as a tour guide comes from, when this game takes you to the ball-shaped Halo we've been expecting for five years (which is perfectly fine and in theory more than enough) and then back into Earth's orbit... and then back inside the same ball, "six months later".

343 actually made Halo 4 a space epic. After Halo: CE, there wasn't any direction either. All that happened was we discovered alien races and a strange alien world and blew it up. There was no hint as to where things were going. But the story unfolded. There's plenty of places to go. As mentioned before, I think we'll get a hint as to where we go next in Spartan Ops. Will humanity try to contact the Arbiter to team up against the Prometheans? That would give us reason to touch down on Sanghelios and help The Arbiter clean up his civil war for a mission or two. And there's no way that The Didact is gone. He is still very much a threat and will be back. You can bet on it. Also, there are very likely other living Forerunners somewhere. This is the reclaimer trilogy. While humans are known as reclaimers, it seems to me that The Didact views his mission as the true reclamation, as we see in the end. That he will reclaim the mantle for the Forerunners. If you think 343, one of the most well funded development studios of all time, doesn't have a plan in place for this trilogy, you're kidding yourself.
 
I'm assuming everyone in here has finished campaign, right?

I'll tag this just in case:

Is the Didact dead?
Apparently not. Someone in this thread said he fell into a subspace portal that was powering the Composer instead of a fiery ball of death, but I have no idea where that was mentioned myself.
 
lol at anyone thinking Cortana is gone. They made it a point to build the entire game about their relationship. Requiem is still in tact and the Librarian had direct contact with her. Something will come of this leading to her coming back.
 
Watching the Terminals again, and I noticed The Didact doesn't have his fangs until we see him on Requiem. Is this inductive of it being the Bornstellar Didact?
 
why wasn't there a fucking boss battle with the didact? that would have been the icing on the cake.

The QTE caught me totally off guard. After climbing up I thought it was setting up a final showdown with him.

"Press A to Plant Grenade."

That's the boss fight? And the grenade doesn't even blow up correctly. We spend the entire game seeing the pulse grenades do one thing, and then this one conveniently blows like a frag. If it did its normal explosion, Didact would just grab it and toss it aside.



I'm just now entering this thread. Is the consensus they really killed Cortana?
 
The QTE caught me totally off guard. After climbing up I thought it was setting up a final showdown with him.

"Press A to Plant Grenade."

That's the boss fight? And the grenade doesn't even blow up correctly. We spend the entire game seeing the pulse grenades do one thing, and then this one conveniently blows like a frag. If it did its normal explosion, Didact would just grab it and toss it aside.



I'm just now entering this thread. Is the consensus they really killed Cortana?

I don't think she's dead. She split like crazy, so it's possible there's "pieces" of her in the rubble that ONI might snag.

Two things I see happening. One she aluded to. Another cortana is made, and it's "not right." And another scenario is that cortana is remade with whatever they can salvage from the station.
 
Watching the Terminals again, and I noticed The Didact doesn't have his fangs until we see him on Requiem. Is this inductive of it being the Bornstellar Didact?
Bornstellar Didact is the one who had control of the composer at the end of Primordium. So yeah. It is him. But we will be 100% sure when Silentium comes out.

I'm just now entering this thread. Is the consensus they really killed Cortana?
The majority see her to come back. I do too. She is way too important for the whole franchise.
 
I'm assuming everyone in here has finished campaign, right?

I'll tag this just in case:

Is the Didact dead?

Apparently not because
343 has said that he will be returning in future games as the main antagonist. I don't see how that's possible though, where did he go when he fell then? Just out into space and he's waiting for the rest of the Decepticons to revive him or something?

Cryptum/Primordium spoilers:
The Didact we fought in this game was actually the essence of the Didact in the body of a Forerunner named Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting. The original Didact appeared to have died, but is apparently still out there somewhere. I'm guessing the next Greg Bear book will reveal where he is, and that could be the way he eventually returns in Halo 5.
 
Apparently not because
343 has said that he will be returning in future games as the main antagonist. I don't see how that's possible though, where did he go when he fell then? Just out into space and he's waiting for the rest of the Decepticons to revive him or something?

Cryptum/Primordium spoilers:
The Didact we fought in this game was actually the essence of the Didact in the body of a Forerunner named Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting. The original Didact appeared to have died, but is apparently still out there somewhere. I'm guessing the next Greg Bear book will reveal where he is, and that could be the way he eventually returns in Halo 5.
Cortana mentioned that she noticed a slipstream at the beginning of the first person shooter part of the final level. Yeah. He is going to be somewhere. And he is talking at the end. He is not dead. So long you do not see his corpse, you can't be sure that he is dead.
 
Honestly, I'm glad they didn't resort to forcing you into a tilted battle against a 12 foot tall bullet sponge on a thin hardlight bridge.

You and me both, all I kept thinking was please don't let this be a boss fight, please don't let this be a boss fight...
 
I'm just now entering this thread. Is the consensus they really killed Cortana?
She might have been recored with the Librarian or something. A lot of people think it would be neat for her to become a sort of future villain.

She needs to be in the game in some shape I think.
Honestly, I'm glad they didn't resort to forcing you into a tilted battle against a 12 foot tall bullet sponge on a thin hardlight bridge.
Yeah, although the QTE was rather uninspired. Hopefully for 5 they just end it in a cutscene or a firefight type battle.
 
They better kill Chief by Halo 6. A third trilogy is not gonna work out.
 
I don't think she's dead. She split like crazy, so it's possible there's "pieces" of her in the rubble that ONI might snag.

Two things I see happening. One she aluded to. Another cortana is made, and it's "not right." And another scenario is that cortana is remade with whatever they can salvage from the station.

I think the librarian has a copy of her.
That the chief will get in halo 5.
But i wouldn't be surprised if the didact will also have a copy of her somehow that he converts to his side. Like a dark version of cortana just so he can know more about human tech and stuff.

just dropping ideas.

They better kill Chief by Halo 6. A third trilogy is not gonna work out.
you know it will be a mmo and by then the franchise will be killed and be a distance memory. I mean everybody can become a spartan 4.
 
343 actually made Halo 4 a space epic. After Halo: CE, there wasn't any direction either. All that happened was we discovered alien races and a strange alien world and blew it up. There was no hint as to where things were going. But the story unfolded. There's plenty of places to go. As mentioned before, I think we'll get a hint as to where we go next in Spartan Ops. Will humanity try to contact the Arbiter to team up against the Prometheans? That would give us reason to touch down on Sanghelios and help The Arbiter clean up his civil war for a mission or two. And there's no way that The Didact is gone. He is still very much a threat and will be back. You can bet on it. Also, there are very likely other living Forerunners somewhere. This is the reclaimer trilogy. While humans are known as reclaimers, it seems to me that The Didact views his mission as the true reclamation, as we see in the end. That he will reclaim the mantle for the Forerunners. If you think 343, one of the most well funded development studios of all time, doesn't have a plan in place for this trilogy, you're kidding yourself.
- Halo 1 at least still had an unresolved war with the Covenant. At the end of Halo 4, we're bullying the remains of the Covenant's special class and cleaning up Requiem of mindless robots. We're at the top of the food chain, there's no real conflict, no goal.
- I'm talking about actual story setup for a sequel. If "there are still some places to go" is a valid premise, then we should be getting Citizen Kane 31 any day now.
- Halo's new Star Warsy simplicity has no room for the Arbiter and friendly, English-speaking Elites, and even less for a civil war your enemies are waging in the novels - one you can't ever resolve because you need those enemies in the sandbox.
- Uh... it's not about not believing that they have plans for the future, it's about not giving us any clues as to where the story is supposed to go now. The way the story is presented makes it look deceptively self-contained.
 
Or they can go with the Star Wars route and revive it in a few years. Chief definitely has to die though. It'd be nice if he fucks Cortana and makes a Chief baby.
 
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