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[G-Fex]

I think you've all lost it

I don't think most of you had IT in the first place

Marrec makes some sense though

 

[Continuity]

I think you've all lost it

I don't think most of you had IT in the first place

Marrec makes some sense though

Must be easy standing on the sideline tossing judgements left and right without actually participating in the discussion.

 

[G-Fex]

Must be easy standing on the sideline tossing judgements left and right without actually participating in the discussion.

There is no discussion ! The thread jumped the shark then imploded on its on broken record posts and junk

So yes it's easy

 

[Drugula's Wrath XXX]

I didn't say it would be something you'd enjoy. The claim I disputed was that it was no different than other shows aimed at girls.

As evidence, let's take a look at a random bit of Bratz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwyscyBbcx

Or Polly Pocket:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nOuTSZfSGg

Then look at MLP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80t5ArE7lNY

You don't have to like it, but there's an undeniable difference between the shows. Seriously, the first two are downright painful to watch.

I don't remember a single MLP episode in which they sat around talking about their crushes, or any involving an (apparently universal) annoying, scheming mean-girl as in both those randomly selected clips. Though, admittedly, I have only watched part of the first season of MLP, so perhaps that occurs later.

What they've achieved is quite admirable, and I think it really speaks to both the skills and the passion that went into the project.

So its about the same quality just different subject matter, cool.

 

[WarMacheen]

There is no discussion ! The thread jumped the shark then imploded on its on broken record posts and junk

So yes it's easy

There is a discussion but instead of contributing something, anything, you've resigned yourself to call people in this thread, both sides, terrible. You have contributed nothing to this thread other than sideline sarcasm and a holier than thou attitude

 

[Drugula's Wrath XXX]

hey man
Genndy Tartakovsky is a legend

I absolutely love the man. Dexter's Lab is one of the most hilarious shows ever made and Samurai Jack is just amazing in every way. Too bad Sym-Bionic Titan got cancelled, it was damn good and yet had a lot of potential to get better.

I didn't like Hotel Transylvania, and I don't have high hopes for what he does next. Which sucks.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

One common thread is that these guys are always obnoxious dickheads.

 

[marrec]

I absolutely love the man. Dexter's Lab is one of the most hilarious shows ever made and Samurai Jack is just amazing in every way. Too bad Sym-Bionic Titan got cancelled, it was damn good and yet had a lot of potential to get better.

I didn't like Hotel Transylvania, and I don't have high hopes for what he does next. Which sucks.

I think Sym-Bionic Titan was easily his worst show, but it was at least watchable. When it was canceled I said "at least he can go do something else now."

 

[Drugula's Wrath XXX]

he worked on the show, but Craig McCracken made PPG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_McCracken

he also made Fosters home for imaginary friends, and is married to Lauren Faust, the one who rebooted MLP.

in fact Craig helped design the S2 villain Discord.

Isn't he working on some Disney cartoon to air in 2013?

I think Sym-Bionic Titan was easily his worst show, but it was at least watchable. When it was canceled I said "at least he can go do something else now."

And guess what we got? A terrible Adam Sandler movie.

 

[Shiv47]

I must admit to being puzzled by the love for the show among anyone over the age of 10; I watched it with my 8-year-old daughter for the first time recently, and it's a perfectly fine show - for kids. It does the usual "believe in yourself/friendship is important/etc" stuff, and the stories aren't brain-meltingly stupid. My kids also watch live action Disney sitcoms like Austin and Ally, Jessie, and ANT Farm, and those are offensively moronic. MLP is a cut above that shit. Not that it's much of an endorsement.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

urgh

'see hasbro, look at all this other crap, we are your fanbase and we have money and little girls dont'

wtf mouthbreather. Little girls have fathers, who met women and mated with them.

fucking bronies.

 

[marrec]

And guess what we got? A terrible Adam Sandler movie.

Oof, I know. I'd rather have him working on new stuff then focusing on Titan though, I don't think it had the potential to produce stuff on the level of Samurai Jack.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Lol oh god.
I have no words for this nonsense.

 

[Smellycat]

Over 1500 posts for this video?? Did I miss something??

 

[marrec]

Over 1500 posts for this video?? Did I miss something??

Apparently you missed the waves upon waves of seething hatred that gushed from the internet's collective mind as this video was being uploaded. 16 pages of teeth gnashing and eye clawing anger mixed with a bit of navel gazing and a bit of questioning the anger and a dash of creepers.

Basically NeoGAF.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

I admire these guys for not giving a damn. I'm the first to point out at how invasive and crazy the "Brony" trend has got, but I'm 19 and line up for every new Pokemon and Animal Crossing game that comes out. I'd be pretty pissed if some guy decided to film me whilst I was picking it out.

 

[RedNumberFive]

Apparently you missed the waves upon waves of seething hatred that gushed from the internet's collective mind as this video was being uploaded. 16 pages of teeth gnashing and eye clawing anger mixed with a bit of navel gazing and a bit of questioning the anger and a dash of creepers.

Basically NeoGAF.

Agreed.

Both sides should probably relax. Bronies can go back to combing Stickerdoodle's hair, while the rest of us can resume being well-adjusted adults.

 

[Drugula's Wrath XXX]

I admire these guys for not giving a damn.

Smells more like attention whoring to me.

 

[Parallax]

I think Sym-Bionic Titan was easily his worst show, but it was at least watchable. When it was canceled I said "at least he can go do something else now."

"Easily his worst" is still far ahead of the class. But damn at that response to its cancellation, though.

 

[demidar]

Smells more like attention whoring to me.

Well this thread was started by a hater. Everyone else on OT was pretty much ignorant before this. *shrug*

 

[Dark Phoenix]

urgh

'see hasbro, look at all this other crap, we are your fanbase and we have money and little girls dont'

wtf mouthbreather. Little girls have fathers, who met women and mated with them.

fucking bronies.

Haha, did someone actually say that? wtf...

Wait, I can believe that.

 

[marrec]

"Easily his worst" is still far ahead of the class. But damn at that response to its cancellation, though.

I just didn't think it had the possibility of getting good, and I'd rather have him tap into that same creative place that gave us Samurai Jack then spend a few more years on a completely watchable but overall mediocre cartoon.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

I admire these guys for not giving a damn.

They're probably sweating like crazy due to how nervous they are to be there.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

They're probably sweating like crazy due to how nervous they are to be there.

That and because half of them probably have not bathed in a while.

 

[FStop7]

Apparently you missed the waves upon waves of seething hatred that gushed from the internet's collective mind as this video was being uploaded. 16 pages of teeth gnashing and eye clawing anger mixed with a bit of navel gazing and a bit of questioning the anger and a dash of creepers.

Basically NeoGAF.

Flip flops are serious shit, bro.

 

[Boss Doggie]

For a second I thought this was an old thread.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Stop that. STOP IT.

Kid's cartoons can be fuck awesome. I haven't watched enough MLP to levy a judgement but I still watch Rocko's Modern Life when it's on. So many grown up jokes.

Cow and Chicken was also a fantastic show around the same time, lots of writing for older audience too that you didn't understand anything of when you were a kid.

 

[Slayven]

MLP friendship can not take on a galaxy.

 

[Boss Doggie]

MLP friendship can not take on a galaxy.

 

[Parallax]

Gen said he would be bros with everyone....

But touching the mans pomp is a no no

 

[Kano on the Phone]

Or...



Or...



Or...



I mean, that first part of your sentence is pretty stereotypical of how a lot of sub cultures are viewed. I'm glad you're in a position to judge an entire group of people based on how a lot of the posters in this forum have been judged in the past.

Totally missing the part where something meant for children is being appropriated by people who are too old for it and are hiding behind its message as if it's a shield to engage in something that's actually really creepy ("it's all about friendship, we're actually just pure-hearted friendly outcasts and you're a meanie and you hate friendship if you think that me defining myself by liking something that's for little girls isn't ok") . You can't just go nerd rage about it and completely ignore what makes it so fucked up.

You can draw all the false equivalencies in the world, but it doesn't mean that anyone has to respect what you or anyone else likes if they find it creepy as shit. I mean, people treat NAMBLA members like pariahs, but you shouldn't judge an entire group of people, right?

Yes, that example was hyperbolic and I have no doubt that you'll miss the point yet again, but long story short: you're allowed to like what you like and say what you want about it but everyone else is allowed to LOL at you for it.

 

[RedNumberFive]

Yes, that example was hyperbolic and I have no doubt that you'll miss the point yet again, but long story short: you're allowed to like what you like and say what you want about it but everyone else is allowed to LOL at you for it.

Agreed. I'd also like to request that all bronies stay at least 100 feet away from my children.

 

[scar tissue]

Yeah, bronies are pretty weird. Weirder than most nerd subcultures, which says a lot.
I don't judge them for watching a "kid's show", I'll play "kid's games" (e.g. Super Mario) too.
However, I do not center my life around Super Mario, I'm not part of some weird Mario-centered subculture, and I certainly don't want to have sex with Super Mario characters.
They simply took the whole thing several steps too far, imo.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Pathetic, socially awkward, seldom bathing basement virgins who have completely given up on life and any semblance of adulthood or even humanity in order to immerse in and identify as part of a sexualized magic little girl-horse fandom.

Sounds like an apt Nerd description regardless of fandom.

 

[darkside31337]

Sounds like an apt Nerd description regardless of fandom.

Yeah its a good thing he clarified who he was talking about at the end.

There needs to an updated Nerd hierarchy flowchart.

 

[marrec]

Totally missing the part where something meant for children is being appropriated by people who are too old for it and are hiding behind its message as if it's a shield to engage in something that's actually really creepy ("it's all about friendship, we're actually just pure-hearted friendly outcasts and you're a meanie and you hate friendship if you think that me defining myself by liking something that's for little girls isn't ok") . You can't just go nerd rage about it and completely ignore what makes it so fucked up.

You can draw all the false equivalencies in the world, but it doesn't mean that anyone has to respect what you or anyone else likes if they find it creepy as shit. I mean, people treat NAMBLA members like pariahs, but you shouldn't judge an entire group of people, right?

Yes, that example was hyperbolic and I have no doubt that you'll miss the point yet again, but long story short: you're allowed to like what you like and say what you want about it but everyone else is allowed to LOL at you for it.

You missed the point of my post.

It's ironic that Evilore has chosen to generalize a harmless subculture in such a negative way with the exact same language that a subculture he probably belongs to has been generalized.

There is nothing fucked up about enjoying a TV show just as there is nothing fucked up about playing video games. There IS something fucked up about owning a fuckable Rainbow Dash plushie, just as there IS something fucked up about marrying your DS with a copy of Idol Master in it.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I'm still laughing at the fact that nerds are still berating other nerds.

Gen said he would be bros with everyone....

But touching the mans pomp is a no no

Gentarou has a go signal tho

 

[demidar]

Totally missing the part where something meant for children is being appropriated by people who are too old for it and are hiding behind its message as if it's a shield to engage in something that's actually really creepy ("it's all about friendship, we're actually just pure-hearted friendly outcasts and you're a meanie and you hate friendship if you think that me defining myself by liking something that's for little girls isn't ok") . You can't just go nerd rage about it and completely ignore what makes it so fucked up.

You can draw all the false equivalencies in the world, but it doesn't mean that anyone has to respect what you or anyone else likes if they find it creepy as shit. I mean, people treat NAMBLA members like pariahs, but you shouldn't judge an entire group of people, right?

Yes, that example was hyperbolic and I have no doubt that you'll miss the point yet again, but long story short: you're allowed to like what you like and say what you want about it but everyone else is allowed to LOL at you for it.

I had to look up NAMBLA and now I hate you for it. But other than that if they ain't hurting anyone who cares?

 

[vidcons]

The thing with this series and its fandom is that it is, esentially, an escapist fantasy. But instead of being about a world more epic than ours, or more technologically advanced or whatever, is about a world being just... nicer. The show's main attraction its "niceness", as weird as it sounds.

Now think about the type of person who would like (nay, need) this type of escapist fantasy. Social outcasts, unadapted teenagers, people with social issues... in short, people who cannot find social inclusion in the real world embraces a fantasy world where everyone is accepted and nice to each other, which is something far more exotic to them than elves and aliens.

That's why you find some of them giving so much importance to a what it is, in essence, just a slice of life comedy with sugary content on top like Azumanga Daioh. Because for that type of people it offers them one of the very few means to socialize and become accepted. In these cases the series and its fandom acts like a support group rather than a simple hobby. And boy, if you do get defensive and irrational whenever someone critisizes one of your social circles, imagine the reaction when said social circle is your only one. Well, you have had a taste of that in this very tread.

Yup, we bronies in general do need a hefty dose of "sensitivity trainning" (I see what you did here, Evilore) but these type of personal issues predate their fandom and in some cases, are in need of something far more deep and personal than a thicker skin. When I dealed with hardcore fans of the series, I noticed a disproportionate amount of bullied kids, gay teenagers and cases of severe depression on it (read: then again, people with many issues regarding social inclussion). Contrary to what many people expressed in this tread over an utterly retarded quote, rather than conservative the fanbase is, if anything, politically correct to a fault, and tend to share the wholly liberal position of "the public discourse should be forcefully legislated into niceness" (an idea that I personally consider it to be an abhorrent thing).

In short, the whole "this show creates manchildren" is a poster case of people mistaking correlation with causation. This show have normal fans that just enjoys it for what it is, but due to its premise, it also attracts a great deal of socially unadjusted people for whom the show and the fandom have become a mechanism to deal and cope with interpersonal relationships.

About whetever that is a good or a bad thing, it is up to debate, but my personal position is the one that actual psycology promotes: when treating a patient with a phobia, he should be subjected to a controlled and gradual exposition to the object of said phobia, same goes for social anxiety. Rather than isolating these type of individuals, I would dare to say that the effect of that fandom on them has been the very opposite: people that would be otherwise isolated are giving social interaction a try since they have founded an enviroment that they find far less treathening and more controlled than the society at large that they usually operates with. They will have to grow up out of it eventually (and seek for professional help) but it is a necessary positive first step.

...


Jesus, that was a very long post and a very boring morning for me.

wouldn't it make sense that if every time one of these adults squealed over being bullied or dealing with their sexuality or hating life and got a hug they would do it again for that hug? what about when they move past that?

i've seen enough people use the internet to enable them to not improve their lives because they can get their ehugs every time it doesn't work out. wasn't there a poster in girl-age who would whine every day about how it much they sucked and everyone was like "nah you're awesome" until, after months of the cycle, someone called them out on their shit. didn't that poster have some meltdown about how this was unfair or something? seriously, am i not remembering this correctly? maybs

either way, this mlp shit, in the way you're describing the hardcore bronies, which is what everyone should have a problem with and not people who just watch the show, doesn't solve the conflicts. they're clinging to subcultures to escape ever having to grow up.

this could be a huge post about people i've met and weird shit i've read and a whole world of enabling and psychoanalysis. but that's boring and i have two tests tomorrow. tests, you know? ugh. probably going to get an f cause i am so stupid and dad hates me >.<

You missed the point of my post.

It's ironic that Evilore has chosen to generalize a harmless subculture in such a negative way with the exact same language that a subculture he probably belongs to has been generalized.

There is nothing fucked up about enjoying a TV show just as there is nothing fucked up about playing video games. There IS something fucked up about owning a fuckable Rainbow Dash plushie, just as there IS something fucked up about marrying your DS with a copy of Idol Master in it.

maybe that's the joke

 

[Boss Doggie]

The hilarity is that you are allowed to be laughed at but you're not allowed to counter their laughing.

maybe that's the joke

I dunno, the guy's suspect in previous "MLP scandals" postings and at one point locked a season discussion

 

[marrec]

maybe that's the joke

Maybe, and if so then color me trolled. I'd much rather be trolled then think that Evilore actually believes what he said about a group of people who like a TV show.

 

[Parallax]

I'm still laughing at the fact that nerds are still berating other nerds.



Gentarou has a go signal tho

Nerds have berated nerds since the beginning of nerdom. Sport nerd berating academic nerds, star wars nerds vs star trek nerds, the insular nerd comic battles, hell, even sentai vs power rangers. The battle is forever.

And I'm gonna assume that's fake gen anyway. He's far too angry.

 

[SmokyDave]

Maybe, and if so then color me trolled. I'd much rather be trolled then think that Evilore actually believes what he said about a group of people who like a TV show.

I don't think it's about 'liking a TV show'. It's about taking it much, much further than that.

I'm still laughing at the fact that nerds are still berating other nerds.

Why? Some nerds are nerdier / creepier / weirder than other nerds. Let's not even start on the whole 'geek / nerd' issue.

 

[scar tissue]

Just loving the generalizations here.
Well some bronies are like that so that must mean they all are!

I thought we were past stereotypes?
Since if this was a thread about being Homosexual or of a certain race, none of this would fly at all.

Haha, oh wow

Are bronies born that way?

False equivalence all up in this bitch

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Nerds have berated nerds since the beginning of nerdom. Sport nerd berating academic nerds, star wars nerds vs star trek nerds, the insular nerd comic battles, hell, even sentai vs power rangers. The battle is forever.

And I'm gonna assume that's fake gen anyway. He's far too angry.

But the common thing amongst all these nerds is that they all don't like bronies.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I dunno, I thought it looked more like a default gangster face.

And yes, I guess nerds will never learn to stop.

But the common thing amongst all these nerds is that they all don't like bronies.

Nah. If anything I'm seeing more bronies in other nerd-dom than being hated.

 

[marrec]

I don't think it's about 'liking a TV show'. It's about taking it much, much further than that.

In which case my original post in response to his post stands. Any group who has within it a minority who takes it too far and are weird and fucking strange. There is a thread on NeoGAF dedicated to all things related to Doctor Who. Many rabid fans post in it every day. There are a small minority of Doctor Who fans that I wouldn't allow to watch my dog for fear of his innocence. That does not make me think anyone who watches Doctor Who or posts in the related threads are all sexually depraved weirdos.

 

[Slayven]

Saddest thing I seen all day.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I don't think it's about 'liking a TV show'. It's about taking it much, much further than that.

Why? Some nerds are nerdier / creepier / weirder than other nerds. Let's not even start on the whole 'geek / nerd' issue.

Not really no.

Just because parts of a group goes the deeper end doesn't mean the whole group is. Or are you equating all anime fans to be loli lovers? TMNT fans are furries (scalies)? Trek fans as those weird people with huge foreheads or long ears?

 

[EviLore]

Maybe, and if so then color me trolled. I'd much rather be trolled then think that Evilore actually believes what he said about a group of people who like a TV show.

This has nothing to do with watching a TV show. I watched the pilot out of curiosity after the explosion of popularity here, and it wasn't for me, but it was cute and had elements that could be appreciated by all ages. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for watching it or saying that they enjoyed it, just as I wouldn't for something like Batman: TAS or a shounen anime or The Lion King.

Being a brony is a lifestyle choice.