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[KevinCow]

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I go out like once a week. Don't know if I should consider myself a hermit, but I don't have the beard.

I go out about once a week too - to help pick out groceries, as I'm the main cook in the house. Though if you don't have a beard you can't really consider yourself a hermit, now can you?

 

[User 100115]

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

You can't give up man. I know I am just repeating stuff I've already told you, but it takes time. And if you aren't really in a place to be dating, mentally and emotionally, it's going to take even longer, cause people can tell it seems. Try not to get angry, try to use it for motivation. You can beat this bastard of a disease into submission, and then go on to be an amazing person much better for what you have gone through.

 

[RionaaM]

can we form a depression band?!

I play some shitty bass, so I'm totally in if you're OK with that

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

Don't give up, please. Life won't get better overnight, but if you put some effort, I'm sure you can make some improvements, and it'll slowly change for the better. I know it's a stupid thing of me to say, but maybe try not to think that much about girls? Focus on yourself, what can you do to improve your self-steem, and maybe women will then start looking at you.

I'm probably the least qualified person to tell you all this, because I'm the biggest failure in the world when it comes to girls. But I recently realised that no girl will be attracted to someone like me, who hates himself and his life. They just don't want someone to bring them down. And so I'm trying to feel better with myself, to find some self-worth. I decided to start the gym soon (one of these days...), give more attention to playing the bass (as I said before, I suck, but it's fun), and if I'm in the mood, play some games or watch a movie or something. Does it suck to be lonely? Yes, of course. But I don't want that to make me feel even worse. As a smart GAFfer said in the dating-age thread: you shouldn't want a girl so you can have a good life. You should want to make your life good first, and after that find some girl and bring her to it. That's what I'm aiming for right now, and perhaps you should try it too.

Anyway, I wish you the best man. And don't be silly, that Wii U isn't going to play itself!

Nothing much, just feeling pretty lonely on my birthday. I'll get over it. It's just affecting me a bit right now.

Don't know if you read it, but I'll quote myself:

I don't know if you'll be fine with this, but I feel like the right thing anyway: Happy birthday Charles! Hope your medical condition has gotten better.

Oh, and if you're a PC gamer, I think you could probably like a Steam game as a birthday gift. Just PM me with your ID, and a game you want (I don't have too much spare money, so I'd appreciate it if you choose a $5 game as most. Maybe you'd like to wait for the autumn/winter sale to get more money's worth.)

The offer is still up, if you want it

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I just had some birthday chocolate cake for 1. Isn't that pathetic? lol.

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

Just stick around. There's no real reason to just give up entirely. Many of us feel that way at some point in our lives and it sucks, but there's still interesting stuff. You lose nothing by sticking around, you lose everything if you don't.

Don't know if you read it, but I'll quote myself:

The offer is still up, if you want it

Hey thanks! very nice of you

 

[Prez]

Anxiety, anger etc.

It happens a lot when my depression gets to it's lowest point.
My immune system also lowers so I might get a fever from some stupid virus or something.
And now I'm feeling light headed as well.

Have you got your blood tested recently? You might have a deficiency that's making your problems worse than they already are. I just found out I have mild hemolysis (red blood cells breaking down earlier than normal). I'm now taking folic acid and I'll see what it does. It won't solve my problems, but it might make things a little less tough which is always welcome.

 

[User 100115]

I just had some birthday chocolate cake for 1. Isn't that pathetic? lol.



Just stick around. There's no real reason to just give up entirely. Many of us feel that way at some point in our lives and it sucks, but there's still interesting stuff. You lose nothing by sticking around, you lose everything if you don't.

Hey, I haven't said it yet, but Happy Birthday man How are you feeling today, health wise?

It's my sisters birthday today too! Only awesome people are born on the 19th of November, apparently.

 

[Empty]

today was bad. found it really hard to motivate myself to do anything, just felt incredibly hopeless. not just important things but cultural escapism stuff too. for example i started watching twin peaks on netflix and wanted to watch more but ended up only watching one episode over the entire afternoon instead following the path of least resistance and refreshing gaf and twitter all day. oh well, at least tomorrow i have to attend class which forces me to do something and leave the house and i have table tennis in the evening. hopefully it'll be better.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Hey, I haven't said it yet, but Happy Birthday man How are you feeling today, health wise?

It's my sisters birthday today too! Only awesome people are born on the 19th of November, apparently.

Thanks! Yeah lol, many member's birthday is today too. Interesting

I've been feeling well, much better than before for sure.

today was bad. found it really hard to motivate myself to do anything, just felt incredibly hopeless. not just important things but cultural escapism stuff too. for example i started watching twin peaks on netflix and wanted to watch more but ended up only watching one episode over the entire afternoon instead following the path of least resistance and refreshing gaf and twitter all day. oh well, at least tomorrow i have to attend class which forces me to do something and leave the house and i have table tennis in the evening. hopefully it'll be better.

Sometimes it's really hard being motivated. Some days are just like that, just refreshing gaf, yeah it'll get better. Playing table tennis will probably take your mind off it.

 

[Sub_Level]

You know what makes me happy? Freakin' Thanksgiving.

It is almost impossible for me to get depressed this week. And all those leftovers for the weekend.

After your thanksgiving meal, I'd recommend taking a walk around your neighborhood or a nice part of town. Get some wine and have drinks with family and friends! Play board/card/video games! And if all else fails/you don't live in the US, watch a good movie!

 

[Collete]

We'll work through this, Oomi. You're an incredible person and I love you to death. I want to do anything I can to help!

Gah, that sucks. When I get super anxious I try the distraction route: a long walk, lotttts of music, ect. Is there anything in the past that you've tried that has worked?

Thanks guys...
I don't know if there's anything to be worked through though...
Not really an incredible person either...
Sorry I haven't been really responsive...
But I thank you however for trying to help.

Anyways.
Fiction: In the past I used to play TF2 to drown my sorrows away. But alas, Valve updated the game odd and the game now crashes every single second.
So now I can't really do anything.

 

[Az987]

When I'm really depressed it always helps to try to focus the energy onto something else. Writing poetry or even just in a journal helps me a lot. I don't know how to write poetry so I usually just write in a journal just to get my feelings and thoughts out of my mind and it makes me feel much better.

Doing some kind of art work helps too; even though I don't have any art training so most of my stuff looks pretty awful but when I was in the hospital I got the idea to take a pencil and scribble one continuous line intersecting with itself on a piece of paper until there are a bunch of separate random shapes connected and then I'll take colored pencils and color each one individually. The final product looks pretty neat and it distracts me for a pretty long time.

Exercise is one of the best things for the anger part of depression. I don't have a punching bag but sometimes I just want to punch something so I tied a pillow to a support post in my basement the other day and just whaled on it.

Reading about people with mental illness helps me a lot too. Memoirs, history books, basically anything about real people. Lincoln's Melancholy made me feel a lot better about myself because it showed me I can still accomplish something even though I have this affliction. There are a lot of great leaders throughout history who had some kind of mental illness and went onto accomplish great things.

This isn't really directed at anyone specifically I'm just listing some of the things that have helped me through the years.

My depression started around 11 years old and I'm 26 now so this shadow has been following me around for a while. I know for a lot of us it will never be completely better but I'm sure for some of you it will and for those of us who it will never go away for there can still be days of peace... cherish those days.

 

[Leeness]

I just had some birthday chocolate cake for 1. Isn't that pathetic? lol.)

I had no birthday cake this year and sat in my pjs alone and did nothing. Lol.

Happy birthday. You have cake!

 

[User 100115]

Thanks guys...
I don't know if there's anything to be worked through though...
Not really an incredible person either...
Sorry I haven't been really responsive...
But I thank you however for trying to help.

Anyways.
Fiction: In the past I used to play TF2 to drown my sorrows away. But alas, Valve updated the game odd and the game now crashes every single second.
So now I can't really do anything.

You are an incredible person.

Want me to see if I can find out if there is something you can do on your end to fix the crashing issue? I am usually pretty good via google fu if you want to tell me the error you are getting or what have you.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Thanks guys...
I don't know if there's anything to be worked through though...
Not really an incredible person either...
Sorry I haven't been really responsive...
But I thank you however for trying to help.

Anyways.
Fiction: In the past I used to play TF2 to drown my sorrows away. But alas, Valve updated the game odd and the game now crashes every single second.
So now I can't really do anything.

The whole thing sounds awful man. I hope you get better. It must really suck. You sound like a good person and that's enough.

I had no birthday cake this year and sat in my pjs alone and did nothing. Lol.

Happy birthday. You have cake!

It's not a competition

 

[Collete]

You are an incredible person.

Want me to see if I can find out if there is something you can do on your end to fix the crashing issue? I am usually pretty good via google fu if you want to tell me the error you are getting or what have you.

I'm really not though, but I thank you for the compliment.

It's called "hl2.exe" crash, it happens quiet commonly nearly every update. But this is the first time I really had a real problem with it.

The whole thing sounds awful man. I hope you get better. It must really suck. You sound like an good person and that's enough.

Thanks...I'm not really that good of a person, but thank you.
I don't think I'll get better...I hate entering this state I am in now....


Presently, I'm really depressed, I can't even be nice anymore.
I want to buy my best friend a nice Christmas present this year (I rarely ever get money to buy anyone anything nice, and this year I tried to change that), but even then I can't find a decent price for the item.
Prices are inflated because of Christmas...I should have plan ahead but dang...
I can't do anything right.

 

[Leeness]

It's not a competition

Just saying, you done good

Also Oomikami, I never know what to say but <3 to you.

 

[User 100115]

I'm really not though, but I thank you for the compliment.

It's called "hl2.exe" crash, it happens quiet commonly nearly every update. But this is the first time I really had a real problem with it.



Thanks...I'm not really that good of a person, but thank you.
I don't think I'll get better...I hate entering this state I am in now....


Presently, I'm really depressed, I can't even be nice anymore.
I want to buy my best friend a nice Christmas present this year (I rarely ever get money to buy anyone anything nice, and this year I tried to change that), but even then I can't find a decent price for the item.
Prices are inflated because of Christmas...I should have plan ahead but dang...
I can't do anything right.

Hey, I like you a ton, which means you are a good person.

And here, maybe this will help you with the crashing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFZ8nU56VSc

I would test it myself but I don't have that game. Yikes, I don't even have steam anymore since my last HD crash....grr

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Thanks...I'm not really that good of a person, but thank you.
I don't think I'll get better...I hate entering this state I am in now....


Presently, I'm really depressed, I can't even be nice anymore.

Yeah it can be tough. I don't know you, but you don't seem like an evil person either

 

[sphinx]

I sometimes confuse being oversensitive with being depressive...maybe is the same thing

I was today at the gym, lying down watching the ceiling, making a pause between the sets of crunches and sometimes I'd want to cry cause I'd begin thinking about ... stuff..I don't know, whether I've been a good person, whether I am actually worthy of the chance I've been given to live life and other ideas that cross my mind.. at some point a tear rolled. I can't explain very well.

I feel guilty because all things said, I am all right and shouldn't feel bad and other people have it worse, if anyone heard me in real life saying this I am typing, they'd laugh at me and my first world problems as they call it. So I try to be occupied and forget, and it works, until something else triggers another wave of feelings and so on...

sorry If this post annoys anyone, I have high respect and sympathy for other people's problems, but the internet is so harsh that I can't find a place to write and feel that there is a bit of compassion, I thought I could post and vent out here.

 

[Uchip]

god damnit
they hired more pretty girls at my local subway
now I cant get sandwiches

 

[Collete]

Also Oomikami, I never know what to say but <3 to you.

Aww thanks. But I don't know why people like me, I never done any good to anyone.
My advice is really dumb and any time I try to help someone, it never comes across that way =\

Hey, I like you a ton, which means you are a good person.

And here, maybe this will help you with the crashing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFZ8nU56VSc

I would test it myself but I don't have that game. Yikes, I don't even have steam anymore since my last HD crash....grr

Oh yeah, I saw that, I'm kind of scared doing that in genereal.
Mainly because I already tweaked my game quiet a bit to customize my needs.
However I think I should try it tonight. Thank you for the affirmation.
Well TF2 is free, feel free to join us on TF2 GAF server

Yeah it can be tough. I don't know you, but you don't seem like an evil person either

You people are being too nice to me.
I don't see why people think I'm not evil....
I don't get it.

 

[MYE]

god damnit
they hired more pretty girls at my local subway
now I cant get sandwiches

What do you mean?

 

[Uchip]

What do you mean?

it reminds me that im permanently fucked up
and that im just going to get older and more fucked up
im not sure how they would feel about me wanting to throw up at the sight of them

 

[Leeness]

Aww thanks. But I don't know why people like me, I never done any good to anyone.
My advice is really dumb and any time I try to help someone, it never comes across that way =\

I'm the same, don't worry. I just don't fall to these lows that you do, so I feel bad that I can't help you.

 

[scar tissue]

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

Same here. Fuck dating. Girls see me as an asexual buddy (best case scenario) or just a generally undesirable weirdo - mostly thanks to my social anxiety. Although my depression and ADS certainly don't help.
And yeah, I'm pretty angry too. Angry about the stuff that made me become like this, angry at myself for not being able to change anything significant, angry at girls for not giving me a chance and angry at the world for being full of superficial assholes.

I might hire an escort sometime, so I'm at least technically no longer a virgin. Or I might chicken out.
Paying for sex is probably the most pathetic thing anyone can do, dunno if I could still look at myself after that.
OTOH, you never know what happens tomorrow. I could die or get paralyzed or whatever, and then I'd never have experienced sex. That's even worse.
Dunno what the best course of action is. They're all going to end with disappointment anyway.

On a related note, I pondered about suicide again today. Back when I had no friends, I liked to think that if I hit breaking point, I could always off myself, because no-one apart from my parents would care anyway (and fuck my parents, they made me the mess I am today).
Now, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do it. Not when three or four people would be genuinely devastated, along with 10 or 15 more who would also care a great deal. I'm trapped with no way out. Fuck.

I just had some birthday chocolate cake for 1. Isn't that pathetic? lol.

Happy birthday. I've had at least two "solo birthdays" too.

 

[Collete]

Yeah it can be tough. I don't know you, but you don't seem like an evil person either

Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, Happy Birthday!

Here's the birthday gif:

I'm the same, don't worry. I just don't fall to these lows that you do, so I feel bad that I can't help you.

Don't worry about it.
I'm starting to believe I'm part of the 2% of depressed people that can't be treated.

Try not to feel bad, it's not your fault.

 

[Az987]

I sometimes confuse being oversensitive with being depressive...maybe is the same thing

I was today at the gym, lying down watching the ceiling, making a pause between the sets of crunches and sometimes I'd want to cry cause I'd begin thinking about ... stuff..I don't know, whether I've been a good person, whether I am actually worthy of the chance I've been given to live life and other ideas that cross my mind.. at some point a tear rolled. I can't explain very well.

I feel guilty because all things said, I am all right and shouldn't feel bad and other people have it worse, if anyone heard me in real life saying this I am typing, they'd laugh at me and my first world problems as they call it. So I try to be occupied and forget, and it works, until something else triggers another wave of feelings and so on...

sorry If this post annoys anyone, I have high respect and sympathy for other people's problems, but the internet is so harsh that I can't find a place to write and feel that there is a bit of compassion, I thought I could post and vent out here.

I get that way a lot but I do my best to hold it back. When How to train your dragon came out in theaters, I went and saw it with my 2 nephews and I started feeling really emotional and on the verge of tears at the part where the dragon comes back to help the main guy.

I was thinking ahh shit, I can't start crying in a little kid movie with my 10 and 12 year old nephews here! I'll never hear the end of it.

Don't worry about it.

And someone somewhere always has it worse than someone. Everyone has their own problems and I'd like to smack whoever started that 'first world problems' bullshit. Just because someone in Africa is dying of starvation doesn't mean you as a human being don't have the right to vent over something going wrong in your life because you have food.

 

[Leeness]

Don't worry about it.
I'm starting to believe I'm part of the 2% of depressed people that can't be treated.

Try not to feel bad, it's not your fault.

Well, to be fair... I don't think I'll ever fix my issues either. So... we're the same in that regard too. <3

 

[KevinCow]

On a related note, I pondered about suicide again today. Back when I had no friends, I liked to think that if I hit breaking point, I could always off myself, because no-one apart from my parents would care anyway (and fuck my parents, they made me the mess I am today).
Now, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do it. Not when three or four people would be genuinely devastated, along with 10 or 15 more who would also care a great deal. I'm trapped with no way out. Fuck.

Sometimes I wonder if my friends would even care. Hell, it would probably take them a few months to even notice.

 

[Uchip]

I don't understand the logic behind caring who is effected by suicide
I mean, you're dead so none of that is relevant
you're not going to become a ghost and hover over them while they weep

 

[MYE]

I'm so depressed, I can't even get excited about this shiny new Wii U sitting in front of me, or Playstation All-Stars coming out tomorrow.

And I feel like I've reached a point where when I think about girls, I don't just get depressed, I also get kinda angry. Angry at them for not giving me a chance, and angry at myself for not being someone else who girls might actually be interested in.

I just fucking give up.

I havent been following your story so this is probably useless advice (sorry if thats the case), but have you considered joining a gym? I think I remember you saying you had issues with your weight and a gym is a good way to set up goals that will really keep your mind off things.
Even if you dont have weight problems, join a gym anyway. I'm as lazy as they come when it comes to exercise but believe me there is a certain high you get after a good workout. A burst of confidence and general well being that hangs around you even if you dont physically notice any changes (that takes time). And if you're happy, your self-esteem will rise accordingly.

it reminds me that im permanently fucked up
and that im just going to get older and more fucked up
im not sure how they would feel about me wanting to throw up at the sight of them

I'm missing a backstory here but I'll tell you right now that whatever it is, you are not permanently fucked up.

 

[Collete]

Well, to be fair... I don't think I'll ever fix my issues either. So... we're the same in that regard too. <3

Aww the gif is cute, thanks

I don't know about your issues entirely, however, I do think your view on males is treatable.
There's some hope for you.
There's none for me unfortunately.

I don't understand the logic behind caring who is effected by suicide
I mean, you're dead so none of that is relevant
you're not going to become a ghost and hover over them while they weep

Well, I'm not going into religion and all that jazz but, it's more of if you really want to leave people suffering when you're gone.
You may not recognize it when you're gone, but everyday, every single moment, they'll live with the pain that you're no longer around.

 

[scar tissue]

I don't understand the logic behind caring who is effected by suicide
I mean, you're dead so none of that is relevant
you're not going to become a ghost and hover over them while they weep

Because even though I'm not going to be around to witness it, I'd be causing people I like a lot of grief, which I do not want. Of course it would be irrelevant for me, but I don't want my friends feeling like shit, not even after I stopped caring.
It's really not that hard to understand.

 

[Uchip]

Well, I'm not going into religion and all that jazz but, it's more of if you really want to leave people suffering when you're gone.
You may not recognize it when you're gone, but everyday, every single moment, they'll live with the pain that you're no longer around.

but your wants are insignificant from the point of no return
"dont do it or you'll be sorry!" doesn't apply here

Because even though I'm not going to be around to witness it, I'd be causing people I like a lot of grief, which I do not want. Of course it would be irrelevant for me, but I don't want my friends feeling like shit, not even after I stopped caring.
It's really not that hard to understand.

you're still talking from a living perspective
it still makes no sense to speak using future tense

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I don't understand the logic behind caring who is effected by suicide
I mean, you're dead so none of that is relevant
you're not going to become a ghost and hover over them while they weep

Yeah. The day I died I don't think it'd matter how long it takes them to find me. At that point it wouldn't be the dead person's problem. Just like caring about the stink lol. Very dark ugly thoughts I know.

edit:^Thanks for the birthday words guys.

 

[MYE]

I don't understand the logic behind caring who is effected by suicide
I mean, you're dead so none of that is relevant
you're not going to become a ghost and hover over them while they weep

You would be inflicting pain on those who care about you, and ending a potential happy life full of new people who would love you.

 

[scar tissue]

you're still talking from a living perspective
it still makes no sense to speak using future tense

how about this: I don't want to spend my last waking moment thinking about all the suffering my death is going to cause.

 

[Uchip]

You would be inflicting pain on those who care about you, and ending a potential happy life full of new people who would love you.

you guys really cant grasp the concept of perception or something

how about this: I don't want to spend my last waking moment thinking about all the suffering my death is going to cause.

ive thought about it, but ive also rationalized it
even if I could somehow observe the repercussions, It would please me to watch people suffer
especially my friends and family who were never there for me

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

You would be inflicting pain on those who care about you, and ending a potential happy life full of new people who would love you.

Emotionally speaking of course yes. I myself meant it in the sense of worrying of if they don't find me right away. I've seen people torturing themselves that if they die right now nobody would find them for a while. Like that would matter once they're dead.

 

[scar tissue]

you guys really cant grasp the concept of perception or something

So, according to you, the concept of bequeathing someone something is stupid because why would you care who has your money when you're dead.

Pretty sure you're the one not grasping things here.

 

[Uchip]

So, according to you, the concept of bequeathing someone something is stupid because why would you care who has your money when you're dead.

thats correct, yes

 

[scar tissue]

thats correct, yes

So if I paid you $10, would you make me the main benefactor in case of your untimely demise? Why would you care, after all?

 

[Uchip]

So if I paid you $10, would you make me the main benefactor in case of your untimely demise? Why would you care, after all?

you can have all of my shit if you want to, all $30 in my bank account!
too apathetic and lazy to write a will though

 

[SolKane]

How do you guys cope with depression? I usually spend a lot of time fantasizing, so much that most of my life takes place in a fantasy. I don't interact with people very often, in fact the majority of my socializing takes place on the internet. Since my life is so empty and unfulfilling I find that to cope with my unhappiness I try not to acknowledge reality. It's hard to do that because I know deep down I am very weak and without my cognitive dissonance I might not be able to make it. But it keeps me trapped ultimately because it's hard for me to overcome the fantasy I build around my life. Lately I've been trying to break away and form better habits, because I'm realizing the fantasy does not really sustain me much anymore.

 

[Uchip]

How do you guys cope with depression? I usually spend a lot of time fantasizing, so much that most of my life takes place in a fantasy. I don't interact with people very often, in fact the majority of my socializing takes place on the internet. Since my life is so empty and unfulfilling I find that to cope with my unhappiness I try not to acknowledge reality. It's hard to do that because I know deep down I am very weak and without my cognitive dissonance I might not be able to make it. But it keeps me trapped ultimately because it's hard for me to overcome the fantasy I build around my life. Lately I've been trying to break away and form better habits, because I'm realizing the fantasy does not really sustain me much anymore.

lots and lots and lots of distractions
letting your mind have free reign to think about things is dangerous

 

[Leeness]

Aww the gif is cute, thanks

I don't know about your issues entirely, however, I do think your view on males is treatable.
There's some hope for you.
There's none for me unfortunately.

There's some for you. I have hope you can do it. <3

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

In truth though, it's not hard to see why people would care about the distress their death could cause on others. If someone cared for you they'll be affected and never forget. I may not have much experience in the topic of death, but I know I was highly affected by my mother's death. I called her everyday in the morning (around 10am). The day she died I was playing video games and decided to call her at 1 because I was going to do other stuff. My sister called me at 12:50 and told me she had just died. I was alone and I was devastated. I still dream about that, most of my dreams with my mom today are nice though.

 

[Collete]

but your wants are insignificant from the point of no return
"dont do it or you'll be sorry!" doesn't apply here

Maybe, but I think that if you're going to leave your friends and family unmeasurable amounts of pain and suffering, that it might prevent you from doing it.
If I was a ghost and watched over my friends and boyfriend mourning me, I don't know the amount of pain I would feel.

There's some for you. I have hope you can do it. <3

I don't see it...I never saw it....
But thanks.

 

[MYE]

Emotionally speaking of course yes. I myself meant it in the sense of worrying of if they don't find me right away. I've seen people torturing themselves that if they die right now nobody would find them for a while. Like that would matter once they're dead.

People often dont realize how much they matter to others. Even if it doesnt seem like they do.