Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad

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slightconfuse said:
what part made you in disbelief though.
you needed to use the crucible to destroy(or control the reaper) was it the star child's half-assed explanation. or jus the fact it boiled down to choice a,b,c
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The introduction of a magical all powerful irrational reaper creator in the last 10 minutes of the game. The idea that the reapers were just misunderstood artificial lifeforms with bad attitudes, destroying all sentient species in the galaxy so they can prevent artificial lifeforms from destroying all sentient life in the galaxy. The space magic that's unleashed on the galaxy with no explanation, after explaining virtually every other significant phenomena in the ME universe over the 3 games. The destruction of the Mass Relays, stranding all spacefaring species in whatever system they find themselves. All this and it's trigger by simply walking down one of 3 paths. No decision leading up to that point had any impact but by then I was already blown away by the awfulness occurring before my eyes. There were other countless issues with the ending, which just showed how little thought went into it. It wasn't a self contained awfulness, if you accept it, you retroactively destroy Sovereign as a character and other parts of the previous games.
 
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Before I originally uploaded that pic, when I was first watching the episode and saw it, I almost died laughing. Apparently it was just a joke though. Each person got to choose what the text said. Either way, it's still really funny.
 
Felix Lighter said:
The introduction of a magical all powerful irrational reaper creator in the last 10 minutes of the game. The idea that the reapers were just misunderstood artificial lifeforms with bad attitudes, destroying all sentient species in the galaxy so they can prevent artificial lifeforms from destroying all sentient life in the galaxy. The space magic that's unleashed on the galaxy with no explanation, after explaining virtually every other significant phenomena in the ME universe over the 3 games. The destruction of the Mass Relays, stranding all spacefaring species in whatever system they find themselves. All this and it's trigger by simply walking down one of 3 paths. No decision leading up to that point had any impact but by then I was already blown away by the awfulness occurring before my eyes. There were other countless issues with the ending, which just showed out little thought went into it. It wasn't a self contained awfulness, if you accept it, you retroactively destroy Sovereign as a character and other parts of the previous games.
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I hate it when people succinctly break down ME3's ending in a single paragraph. It just really hits home how incredibly awful it was.

Still can't believe the writers publicly stated
The Matrix trilogy ending was a reference for them. Did they not notice the reaction to it?
 
CB3 said:
yeah he should really be finishing mass effect on a livestream. That should have been the live show today, infact.
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No, it should have been him finishing Binary Domain on the stream.

Now that I think about it he also wouldn't be able to guess the ending for that one either.
 
I never bothered to play ME3 for whatever reason, despite buying it day one. I finally decided not to bother avoiding spoilers anymore and just finished reading the posts in here boiling down the ending.

I'm now angry and disgusted and I want to eat emotionally.
 
So based on a recent Jeff tweet, looks like I was right and they've spent today planning out their GOTY stuff, which explains no live show.
 
Late, but there is no way in the flying fuck Brad could have any inkling of what the ending of ME3 is.

I'm torn if I think he's going to rage about it, or if at this point it's been "a thing" for so long that he's just going to be meh about it.
 
heh, all this ME3 stuff coming back.

I will say this: I enjoyed that Music Track played during the Infamous Ending.
 
Felix Lighter said:
The introduction of a magical all powerful irrational reaper creator in the last 10 minutes of the game. The idea that the reapers were just misunderstood artificial lifeforms with bad attitudes, destroying all sentient species in the galaxy so they can prevent artificial lifeforms from destroying all sentient life in the galaxy. The space magic that's unleashed on the galaxy with no explanation, after explaining virtually every other significant phenomena in the ME universe over the 3 games. The destruction of the Mass Relays, stranding all spacefaring species in whatever system they find themselves. All this and it's trigger by simply walking down one of 3 paths. No decision leading up to that point had any impact but by then I was already blown away by the awfulness occurring before my eyes. There were other countless issues with the ending, which just showed how little thought went into it. It wasn't a self contained awfulness, if you accept it, you retroactively destroy Sovereign as a character and other parts of the previous games.
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It gets better when you realize that the guys who wrote the ending clearly were thinking more about some vague "meaningful" message than the universe they spent so long building up.

Why did the Normandy crash land on a Garden of Eden jungle planet? Why is it so triumphantly framed when they have no idea what the fuck is going on? How did your squadmates who disappeared on the ground suddenly get up on the ship? Wait, won't Tali and Garrus starve since they can't eat the same food? Wait, what about the multi-species fleets around Earth? Aren't they stuck there for decades or centuries now, orbiting a nearly ruined planet? How can the choices about entire species' fates even matter if they can't even travel across the galaxy any more to make those choices meaningful? Why does the Catalyst have more options if your fleet if bigger? Why does Destroy kill all the Reapers, but also the geth, but not EDI who is made out of Reaper software? How come Destroy can't distinguish between different types of synthetics, but Control does, just affecting Reapers? How does Shepard jumping into a laser beam send his/her "essence" across the galaxy to make everyone into cyborgs? Wait, why does the Catalyst call Shepard partly synthetic, when "synthetic" in Mass Effect specifically means artificial intelligence, not mechanical bodies, and only a few hours before EDI told Shepard that his/her mind is totally organic? When the Reapers consider synthetic life as a threat, do they just mean robot people? What about clones or genetically engineered races? Because they just talk about robots. How does turning everyone into cyborgs stop the threat of robots taking over and killing everyone? Can cyborgs not make robots now? Because otherwise the same philosophy of creations overthrowing creators stands. What, did all the metal in the galaxy turn into meat or something, like how all the life in the galaxy has wires on it now? Why does Joker's hat have circuits on it? Why does EDI have circuits on her skin, she was already a robot, did she become a double robot? If the mass relays all blew up and Arrival says that's like a supernova, did you just kill everyone in the galaxy near a relay? If not, why not? Was it a special controlled explosion triggered by the color-coded laser beams? Why? Why does Shepard never question anything the Catalyst says? Why does the Catalyst still act as though synthetic and organic life are incompatible if you guided EDI and Joker to fall in love, and brought the quarians and geth peace? Why did Sovereign and Harbinger not seem to know anything about this "preserving organic life" motivation in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2? They seemed to think it was all about destruction or Reaper reproduction. If the Reaper AI lives in the Citadel, why does Sovereign have to open up the Citadel's relay in ME1 to let the other Reapers in? Why didn't the Reapers just modify the Citadel to stop the Crucible from attaching? What, they didn't know about it? They're a race that specializes in taking over people's minds, they never found out about it in over a billion years? Why were there two power terminals connected to the Reapers on board the Citadel all this time? Did nobody know what they were? Or study them? Why is this old space grandpa in the future telling this graphic tale of sex and violence to his grandson? Is Shepard space Jesus now? Was the whole trilogy a very inappropriate bedtime story? Why did they decide to have the farewell message be a pop-up asking you to buy DLC?


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy /plinkett


And then the Extended Cut tried to answer these questions with a mixture of
the Catalyst outright saying, "Oh, that's not important and there's no time to explain," implying that the Catalyst is insane so that's why its motivations make no sense, outright retconning the relays blowing the fuck up and instead showing them sort of falling apart with little explosions so they could be repaired like a month later so galactic society goes right back to normal.
 
I hope Brad reads EmCeeGramr's post after he finishes the game.
There is too much awful to digest as it's happening but I think that covers most of the holes.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
It gets better when you realize that the guys who wrote the ending clearly were thinking more about some vague "meaningful" message than the universe they spent so long building up.

Why did the Normandy crash land on a Garden of Eden jungle planet? Why is it so triumphantly framed when they have no idea what the fuck is going on? How did your squadmates who disappeared on the ground suddenly get up on the ship? Wait, won't Tali and Garrus starve since they can't eat the same food? Wait, what about the multi-species fleets around Earth? Aren't they stuck there for decades or centuries now, orbiting a nearly ruined planet? How can the choices about entire species' fates even matter if they can't even travel across the galaxy any more to make those choices meaningful? Why does the Catalyst have more options if your fleet if bigger? Why does Destroy kill all the Reapers, but also the geth, but not EDI who is made out of Reaper software? How come Destroy can't distinguish between different types of synthetics, but Control does, just affecting Reapers? How does Shepard jumping into a laser beam send his/her "essence" across the galaxy to make everyone into cyborgs? Wait, why does the Catalyst call Shepard partly synthetic, when "synthetic" in Mass Effect specifically means artificial intelligence, not mechanical bodies, and only a few hours before EDI told Shepard that his/her mind is totally organic? When the Reapers consider synthetic life as a threat, do they just mean robot people? What about clones or genetically engineered races? Because they just talk about robots. If the mass relays all blew up and Arrival says that's like a supernova, did you just kill everyone in the galaxy near a relay? If not, why not? Was it a special controlled explosion triggered by the color-coded laser beams? Why? Why does Shepard never question anything the Catalyst says? Why does the Catalyst still act as though synthetic and organic life are incompatible if you guided EDI and Joker to fall in love, and brought the quarians and geth peace? Why did Sovereign and Harbinger not seem to know anything about this "preserving organic life" motivation in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2? They seemed to think it was all about destruction or Reaper reproduction. If the Reaper AI lives in the Citadel, why does Sovereign have to open up the Citadel's relay in ME1 to let the other Reapers in? Why didn't the Reapers just modify the Citadel to stop the Crucible from attaching? What, they didn't know about it? They're a race that specializes in taking over people's minds, they never found out about it in over a billion years? Why were there two power terminals connected to the Reapers on board the Citadel all this time? Did nobody know what they were? Or study them? Why is this old space grandpa in the future telling this graphic tale of sex and violence to his grandson? Is Shepard space Jesus now? Was the whole trilogy a very inappropriate bedtime story? Why did they decide to have the farewell message be a pop-up asking you to buy DLC?


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy /plinkett


And then the Extended Cut tried to answer these questions with a mixture of
the Catalyst outright saying, "Oh, that's not important and there's no time to explain," implying that the Catalyst is insane so that's why its motivations make no sense, outright retconning the relays blowing the fuck up and instead showing them sort of falling apart with little explosions so they could be repaired like a month later so galactic society goes right back to normal.
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Hahahaha, I never fucking considered that the space grandpa was telling his grandson about all the sweet alien sex that Shepard had, what a fucking mess!
 
Felix Lighter said:
I hope Brad reads EmCeeGramr's post after he finishes the game.
There is too much awful to digest as it's happening but I think that covers most of the holes.
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Hell, I just read it, and all those horrifying universe-wide outcomes of that ending came flowing back into my brain.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
It gets better when you realize that the guys who wrote the ending clearly were thinking more about some vague "meaningful" message than the universe they spent so long building up.

Why did the Normandy crash land on a Garden of Eden jungle planet? Why is it so triumphantly framed when they have no idea what the fuck is going on? How did your squadmates who disappeared on the ground suddenly get up on the ship? Wait, won't Tali and Garrus starve since they can't eat the same food? Wait, what about the multi-species fleets around Earth? Aren't they stuck there for decades or centuries now, orbiting a nearly ruined planet? How can the choices about entire species' fates even matter if they can't even travel across the galaxy any more to make those choices meaningful? Why does the Catalyst have more options if your fleet if bigger? Why does Destroy kill all the Reapers, but also the geth, but not EDI who is made out of Reaper software? How come Destroy can't distinguish between different types of synthetics, but Control does, just affecting Reapers? How does Shepard jumping into a laser beam send his/her "essence" across the galaxy to make everyone into cyborgs? Wait, why does the Catalyst call Shepard partly synthetic, when "synthetic" in Mass Effect specifically means artificial intelligence, not mechanical bodies, and only a few hours before EDI told Shepard that his/her mind is totally organic? When the Reapers consider synthetic life as a threat, do they just mean robot people? What about clones or genetically engineered races? Because they just talk about robots. If the mass relays all blew up and Arrival says that's like a supernova, did you just kill everyone in the galaxy near a relay? If not, why not? Was it a special controlled explosion triggered by the color-coded laser beams? Why? Why does Shepard never question anything the Catalyst says? Why does the Catalyst still act as though synthetic and organic life are incompatible if you guided EDI and Joker to fall in love, and brought the quarians and geth peace? Why did Sovereign and Harbinger not seem to know anything about this "preserving organic life" motivation in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2? They seemed to think it was all about destruction or Reaper reproduction. If the Reaper AI lives in the Citadel, why does Sovereign have to open up the Citadel's relay in ME1 to let the other Reapers in? Why didn't the Reapers just modify the Citadel to stop the Crucible from attaching? What, they didn't know about it? They're a race that specializes in taking over people's minds, they never found out about it in over a billion years? Why were there two power terminals connected to the Reapers on board the Citadel all this time? Did nobody know what they were? Or study them? Why is this old space grandpa in the future telling this graphic tale of sex and violence to his grandson? Is Shepard space Jesus now? Was the whole trilogy a very inappropriate bedtime story? Why did they decide to have the farewell message be a pop-up asking you to buy DLC?


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy /plinkett


And then the Extended Cut tried to answer these questions with a mixture of
the Catalyst outright saying, "Oh, that's not important and there's no time to explain," implying that the Catalyst is insane so that's why its motivations make no sense, outright retconning the relays blowing the fuck up and instead showing them sort of falling apart with little explosions so they could be repaired like a month later so galactic society goes right back to normal.
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Sigh. God damn it. You forgot the nebulous
chaos/order /wankingmotion bullshit, but
aside from that... God fucking damnit.
 
One thing that drove me crazy about the ending that I don't see get mentioned:

When you see all the light beams traveling around galaxy and color explosions/waves happening relay to relay... from where are you watching this and how? Is that even an observable event? If you stood x many light-years away from our galaxy this is what you would see in real time?
Stupidest visual in the series I think.
 
Riposte said:
One thing that drove me crazy about the ending that I don't see get mentioned:

When you see all the light beams traveling around galaxy and color explosions/waves happening relay to relay... from where are you watching this and how? Is that even an observable event? If you stood x many light-years away from our galaxy this is what you would see in real time?
Stupidest visual in the series I think.
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Let's not even mention that some of the explosion seems to have diameter's of like 10% that of the galaxy's diameter, that's a BIG ASS EXPLOSION, and it would take it several hundred years of 'exploding', turning the galaxy into a hellish nightmarescape of constant ultra-supernovas for the next many generations to come.
 
The ME3 ending thread might be my least favorite thread ever. It was just a swirling vortex of horrible negativity.
Just like the ME3 ending.
 
Not sure if this has been posted already, but did you guys see this in the GB Comments section?
@Pixeldemon said:

@Kohlstream said:


They should livestream Brad experiencing the ending just to have his reaction on film.

Oh god, please do this!

This is the best idea any comment has ever had
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We must make this happen. Go to work GAF.
 
I am starting to wish I just jumped into ME3 instead of playing through 1 just so I can listen to the GOTY podcasts and this upcoming video.

I have made it this far without knowing what the ending to 3 is so if Brad fucking spoils it randomly on next weeks bombcast I'm going to be pissed. Will have to keep my eyes out before hand. Also I guess unfollowing brad on twitter might be smart.

Since I am replaying through 1 and 2 + all the DLC + breaks in between games I dont plan of playing ME3 until sometime next February or march, lets say around the time of the release of some kind of Mass Effect 3: Complete Edition.
 
funkystudent said:
I am starting to wish I just jumped into ME3 instead of playing through 1 just so I can listen to the GOTY podcasts and this upcoming video.

I have made it this far without knowing what the ending to 3 is so if Brad fucking spoils it randomly on next weeks bombcast I'm going to be pissed. Will have to keep my eyes out before hand. Also I guess unfollowing brad on twitter might be smart.

Since I am replaying through 1 and 2 + all the DLC + breaks in between games I dont plan of playing ME3 until sometime next February or march, lets say around the time of the release of some kind of Mass Effect 3: Complete Edition.
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We're 9 (?) months out, there's likely to be spoilers on the podcast. If not next week for sure on the GOTY podcasts, they usually say up-front that it's spoiler town for any games they're going to talk about.

Also given the way they're talking about this upcoming DLC for ME3, I don't think we'll see a complete edition by then, it doesn't seem like the DLC may even be out by then.
 
It'll be pretty weird to have an in-depth ME3 discussion on the Bombcast now that it seems like so long ago. I just hope they understand the fan reaction enough to dissect what exactly was wrong with the ending.

There are two ways that this could go: 1) Brad doesn't get what's so terrible with the ending, and the rest of the crew tries to explain/contextualize it with the pre-EC ending. 2) Brad dislikes the ending and passionately tears into it (there will be lots of groaning).

It'll be interesting to hear which choice Brad initially takes.

Since he will have played Leviathan prior to experiencing the ending, at least he'll be prepared with a relatively decent expositional build up. I'm still bitter that Leviathan wasn't originally a part of ME3.
 
SailorDaravon said:
We're 9 (?) months out, there's likely to be spoilers on the podcast. If not next week for sure on the GOTY podcasts, they usually say up-front that it's spoiler town for any games they're going to talk about.

Also given the way they're talking about this upcoming DLC for ME3, I don't think we'll see a complete edition by then, it doesn't seem like the DLC may even be out by then.
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GOTY podcasts won't go up for another three weeks. They'll just be recorded next week.
 
Experiencing the Mass Effect 3 ending is like going through the 7 stages of grief.
 
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