Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad
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It kind of spoils the nature of the ending, although perharps not more than that. I think it's way more fun to go into the ending without any expectations except what the game gave you personally and I wouldn't want to rob anyone of that possibility. If this were 2024, then sure.
Empty Space
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Xander51
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Yes it has been denied. Vehemently.
Empty Space
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Probably, but the further down the rabbit hole people can take Brad the better.
Ehhhh, I think without any context it doesn't matter either way.
Basileus777
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A comic about the 5 stages of grief and ME3's ending is a spoiler? How? It gives away nothing unless you've lived in a cave somewhere and didn't know some people didn't like the game's ending.
I remember Julian Murdoch (from Gamers With Jobs) thinking it had to be indoctrination. I never found out what came of that. Anyone know?
Maybe, but you still have to wonder what the hell they were thinking.
Jake Tower
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In the context of the original endings, indoctrination theory still makes the most sense.
They were insane~!
Jeff's right, but when a large proportion of your audience is desperate for you to declare that it was all a dream you know you've fucked up hardcore
no spoilers there btw
Basileus777
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I bet Brad isn't as down on it as we'd like to hope. We'll hear a lot about how Leviathan justified it.
If this was some Marsellus Wallace briefcase shit where the creator actively encourages speculation, then yeah. But if the creators say no, further discussion is very much just grasping at straws IMO.
Typographenia
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Which ending, Brad? I need to know.
No one is super down on it the very first time they experience the ending. However the rage builds up as you start thinking about how far they dropped the ball.
Basileus777
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Authorial intent doesn't necessarily have to matter at all.
Yeah, which makes me dislike Jeff's reaction though. It still makes more damn sense than anything Bioware came up with in that damn extended ending. Plus, there still is not a good enough explanation why at the end of
the destroy ending, Shepard is still seen waking up underneath London rubble
No it didn't. It made as much sense as Marauder Shields being the final boss.
Sleeplessnights
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Now I really want to know what is in Leviathan that makes the ending a little better. I will get From Ashes and Leviathan when they're on sale at some point I guess, but I just can't imagine.
Yup, he's already there.
And Leviathan doesn't really justify it, it just explains some backstory. And even if it DID justify the ending, it's still unacceptable as it came out nearly 6 months after the game came out, and it was paid DLC. If he gives it a pass because of that I will be legitimately angry.
Just Youtube the ending of Leviathan; there's a crazy info dump that provides crazy fiction backstory and ties in to the events running up directly to the ending if you know what I mean. It's fucking insane it was DLC. It's super interesting, but coming out post-release and as paid DLC is a slap in the face.
From what I recall didn't Tarantino say it didn't really matter what was actually in the briefcase?
probably be one of those DLC rants. they totally ripped it out.
It gives origins to the threat in the game.
The Wizard
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https://twitter.com/bradshoemaker/status/277584627974156288
I wonder if he's watched the two other endings yet.
I wonder if he's watched the two other endings yet.
slightconfuse
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seems the dLC has changed him
Empty Space
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It makes at least one of the endings pointless.
EmCeeGramr
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Brad, now that you've seen it, please view this video comparing the endings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA
edit: Oh Christ, people are already trying to convince Brad of that "people just wanted a happy storybook ending!" horseshit.
edit: Oh Christ, people are already trying to convince Brad of that "people just wanted a happy storybook ending!" horseshit.
You can make it make sense, but aside from that if they had actually intentionally leaned into that it would have at least made the end-game super interesting. Better than what we got at least.
In the OG game ending it kinda did. But not anymore.
eot
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Hey Brad, you should watch this, even though it's from before the extended cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs
totally worked for the original endings.
pieatorium
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Something like that iirc, just a plot device. Any valuable thing that could be in a breifcase wouldn't make a difference
If you start discarding authorial intent just because you don't like the outcome of something, you may as well start making up parts of the story in your head and call it canon.
The worst part about the indoctrination theory is that it gives Bioware way too much credit, which they absolutely don't deserve. It never made sense.
Oh God: (spoilers)
http://i.imgur.com/AWqYl.png
It's early 2012 all over again.
Oh God: (spoilers)
http://i.imgur.com/AWqYl.png
It's early 2012 all over again.
Sleeplessnights
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After release DLC is really crazy, I hope less developers and publishers go with that. I held out on playing any of Mass Effect 2 until everything was out, playing Lair of the Shadow Broker and Overlord as part of the main campaign was totally worth it but I can't imagine going back to it if I had finished the game before.
Felix Lighter
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The thing you have to realize is there is no making sense of the ending. It is a illogical disaster and its better to realize that sooner than later. It's best to accept that and then try to pretend it never happened.
is funny because
Indoctrination theory
people would rather have no real ending instead of the nonsense they gave us.
Not this shit again.
I agree it's an interesting concept, but it doesn't fit without forcing it to do so. It would have been a lazily shoehorned twist all the same to me.
Taste the rainbow.
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