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I find Data incredibly sexy and he is the opposite of orange.

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That's not blue.
 
Ugh, it was a figure of speech. I don't look like nor do I want to look like a Jersey shore douche.

You rate women and men on 10-point scales and call us shallow? You must have a very well-developed sense of irony.

No I don't. I was giving an example to what average women expect a man that has a chance with them to look like.
 
The problem when people start naming actors and models to describe what they find attractive is that well they are actors and models. For once I'd like to see what kinda everyday guys women find attractive.
 
I don't have a narrow view on anything. It's my observation. And from my observation, you can be as confident as Jackie Chan, but if you aren't attractive you might as well stay home.

And I can say that because I've appeared with average looks before women and with 'try-hard' looks before women. Regardles of the clothes, I'm not that attractive. But, women will at least talk to me when I look like a MTV/Jersey Shore douche.

I mean, putting aside all the other dumb things about this post, you realize that you just contradicted yourself, right? When you change your outfit, you change your success level. In other words, it's not just about attractiveness, it's about presentation, and self-confidence is part of that.
 
Meh, no one conforms to every stereotype. Makes it easier for some to group things, though.

I don't like blonde hair, for example. Don't hate it, but it's very stereotypical hot.
 
Then problem when people start naming actors and models to describe what they find attractive is that well they are actors and models.

It is an easy way to get a base on what is attractive to you and being able to share that. I wouldn't look too much into it.

He's too rhoided out now.

There really isn't one thing we all want. I guess for some dudes that makes it harder despite the fact that it means more men have a chance.

He is a big dood. And of course there is going to be variety. I would hope that everyone knows this.
 
I can't think of a race that I haven't seen an attractive woman in. I've never really had a "type" per-se.

EDIT: Also the Rock really is terrible at wrestling. Just wanted to make sure I got that out there.
 
The problem when people start naming actors and models to describe what they find attractive is that well they are actors and models. For once I'd like to see what kinda everyday guys women find attractive.

I agree with you, but the problem is I can't post picture of anyone I've actually dated and/or found attractive without compromising their privacy. I don't feel right posting their personal facebook photos on a public forum without their knowledge.
 
I agree with you, but the problem is I can't post picture of anyone I've actually dated and/or found attractive without compromising their privacy. I don't feel right posting their personal facebook photos on a public forum without their knowledge.
Yeah I understand that. I think that's why I gravitate towards the pics of yourself thread. I find the real world attraction more interesting.
 
Is this gonna turn into a hot men thread?

And for the record, I had the biggest crush on Jackie Chan when I was younger, and it wasn't because of his face. Charisma is so much more important than appearance when it come to attraction.

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For me it was how he moved. He was fast as lightning, but also graceful. And, he always seemed so happy in his movies, made me really like him.
 
Yeah I understand that. I think that's why I gravitate towards the pics of yourself thread. I find the real world attraction more interesting.

How about Jim from the office?
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Yes, I know John Krasinski is an actor but I've always considered him to be pretty average Joe looking and that's what I find appealing about him. He also looks very similar to someone I've been involved with.
 
The problem when people start naming actors and models to describe what they find attractive is that well they are actors and models. For once I'd like to see what kinda everyday guys women find attractive.

But our attraction to actors is the perfect example of what women in this thread are trying to explain. Charisma and confidence (which many actors ooze) is what attracts us most over their appearance. There's plenty of less than attractive actors that are incredibly sexy because of how they portray themselves.
 
I mean, putting aside all the other dumb things about this post, you realize that you just contradicted yourself, right? When you change your outfit, you change your success level. In other words, it's not just about attractiveness, it's about presentation, and self-confidence is part of that.

Self confidence is not tied to presentation. What I'm saying is that from my experience average looking people with lots of initial self confidence are put aside for an attractive guy at a bar, doing nothing bit sitting. You can have all the confidence you want when you walk up to a woman but you'll receive no interest what so ever if you don't look like Brad Pitt.
By the way, It's nice that I'm the supposed dumbass here but I'm certain you people talk about stuff you wouldn't do. I'm talking about how I've experienced most women I've met. It's really nice of you people to give the confident guy a chance, but the girls I've met expect a photomodel to show interest in them.
 
But our attraction to actors is the perfect example of what women in this thread are trying to explain. Charisma and confidence (which many actors ooze) is what attracts us most over their appearance. There's plenty of less than attractive actors that are incredibly sexy because of how they portray themselves.
Yea but then men just see "oh so you want fame and money!" When they ask you what you are attracted to they just wanna here you say "I am attracted to you." And if you don't they will look for some way to fault your taste.
 
Self confidence is not tied to presentation. What I'm saying is that from my experience average looking people with lots of initial self confidence are put aside for an attractive guy at a bar, doing nothing bit sitting. You can have all the confidence you want when you walk up to a woman but you'll receive no interest what so ever if you don't look like Brad Pitt.
By the way, It's nice that I'm the supposed dumbass here but I'm certain you people talk about stuff you wouldn't do. I'm talking about how I've experienced most women I've met. It's really nice of you people to give the confident guy a chance, but the girls I've met expect a photomodel to show interest in them.

Here's your problem. Bars are hook up establishments. Hope I cleared that up for you.
 
I just realized that a lot of what's being talked about in DA and here is about dating someone (duh, but wait). See, that's where charisma comes in handy the most.

But at bars or parties, you naturally don't have as much time to make a case, and many people are looking to dance, fuck or be left alone. Looks help make a case that much faster. That's why so many of the examples here are about dating, rather than seeing a less attractive guy going home with an attractive girl he met same night.

...T's all I got.

EDIT: Send the check to the P.O. box.

EDIT 2: For the record, I started typing this far before hollow's post, but stopped to talk to a friend.
 
Self confidence is not tied to presentation. What I'm saying is that from my experience average looking people with lots of initial self confidence are put aside for an attractive guy at a bar, doing nothing bit sitting. You can have all the confidence you want when you walk up to a woman but you'll receive no interest what so ever if you don't look like Brad Pitt.
By the way, It's nice that I'm the supposed dumbass here but I'm certain you people talk about stuff you wouldn't do. I'm talking about how I've experienced most women I've met. It's really nice of you people to give the confident guy a chance, but the girls I've met expect a photomodel to show interest in them.

In an initial encounter where neither party has spent any meaningful amount of time around each other, looks is all you have to go by.
 
This is entirely false.

Correction, not entirely tied to presentation.

Here's your problem. Bars are hook up establishments. Hope I cleared that up for you.

Bars, clubs, school courtyard, univercity library, whatever.

Anywho, It's 2 am and I have to get up early. Don't dwell too much on my comments cause I have a hard time writing what I mean. So far I, not intentionally and not truthfully, described myself as a x/10 rating jersey shore douche who bases his view on women on the interaction in bars.

I shouldn't have said anything lol. But I had to. Women from my experience are shallow.

*hides*
 
Casual bar hook-ups aren't usually the best way to gauge how women will behave when evaluating someone for long term relationship potential.

If you're mostly looking for a casual hook-up, then well... not sure what to tell you there. I have no experience in that area.

Bars, clubs, school courtyard, univercity library, whatever.

Bars are hardly the same type of area as a university library. Either way, best way to meet someone is through social gatherings or activities and just talking with them and getting to know them. Not with an aim to "get numbers" or "go home" with someone, but to just have fun and socialize.
 
Self confidence is not tied to presentation.

Self-confidence is a huge part of presentation.

What I'm saying is that from my experience average looking people with lots of initial self confidence are put aside for an attractive guy at a bar, doing nothing bit sitting. You can have all the confidence you want when you walk up to a woman but you'll receive no interest what so ever if you don't look like Brad Pitt.

This is very strange. "Have self-confidence" does not mean "go hit on girls like the world is ending." In fact, it probably means the opposite. That guy who's hanging out at the bar allowing things to take a natural course is expressing a lot more confidence by doing so than you are by going up to them and trying to engage them out of the blue.
 
Is it for a particular lady? What are her interests/hobbies?

Girlfriend. Interests and hobbies include cute animals, books (fantasy/sci-fi/fiction stuff), beauty products. Some mild interest in anime, manga and games. She reads GAF but I'm hoping she doesn't read this thread since she's not a member.
 
I like a bit of old fashion grace, but I certainly can't speak for everyone.



Do the things you love to do. If you did a lot of those things together with her and right now it hurts to do them, find new TOTALLY AWESOME things to try out and experience. Go out with friends and do these things. The excitement of new experiences won't erase the pain, but it will dull it until you are able to move on.


Thanks. Been focusing on my triathlon training and got a new camera so going to focus on that and my job. The sad empty feeling kind of just hits me in waves.

What I don't get is after I was rejected in my plea to get back together she demanded 2 hugs, then kissed me on the cheek then on my lips. Jesus Christ, it was like a kiss of death lol.
 
Girlfriend. Interests and hobbies include cute animals, books (fantasy/sci-fi/fiction stuff), beauty products. Some mild interest in anime, manga and games. She reads GAF but I'm hoping she doesn't read this thread since she's not a member.

http://kawaiinot.bigcartel.com/ I like this webcomic a lot, and the artist has an assortment of cute and crude things :) Something from there will probably go over well with her. The book is also a fantastic way to read all of it http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YX0DZ8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
Girlfriend. Interests and hobbies include cute animals, books (fantasy/sci-fi/fiction stuff), beauty products. Some mild interest in anime, manga and games. She reads GAF but I'm hoping she doesn't read this thread since she's not a member.

I often got my sister elaborate eye shadow palettes as a present due to her love of makeup. I adore books but if I want to read a particular one, I'd just buy it myself. Not sure how well it works as a gift.

I don't know if she's a foodie at all, but specialty food products or kitchen gadgets are my favorite things to receive (I actually put a mandoline slicer and a pressure cooker on my wishlist).
 
Serious question, does appearing somewhat gay a turn-off? I care about how I dress and have a somewhat feminine body language so I am constantly mistaken to be gay. I don't really mind, but I'd recently begun thinking it might be a problem. Not because of any event in particular, but I have a general period of low self-esteem, I guess. So, should I work and developing more "masculine" features?
 
i am extremely desensitized and have major anhedonia, so i cant get off in sex like 95% of the time; is this better or worse than premature ejaculation
 
Serious question, does appearing somewhat gay a turn-off? I care about how I dress and have a somewhat feminine body language so I am constantly mistaken to be gay. I don't really mind, but I'd recently begun thinking it might be a problem. Not because of any event in particular, but I have a general period of low self-esteem, I guess. So, should I work and developing more "masculine" features?

Eh... I dunno what to say about this one except it probably keeps them from thinking of you in a sexual/romantic way. A friendquaintance of mine knows that feeling very well.

EDIT: Or they'll just assume the possibility isn't open, I guess.
 
Serious question, does appearing somewhat gay a turn-off? I care about how I dress and have a somewhat feminine body language so I am constantly mistaken to be gay. I don't really mind, but I'd recently begun thinking it might be a problem. Not because of any event in particular, but I have a general period of low self-esteem, I guess. So, should I work and developing more "masculine" features?

Considering how many crushes I've had on gay men, I'd say no.
 
Serious question, does appearing somewhat gay a turn-off? I care about how I dress and have a somewhat feminine body language so I am constantly mistaken to be gay. I don't really mind, but I'd recently begun thinking it might be a problem. Not because of any event in particular, but I have a general period of low self-esteem, I guess. So, should I work and developing more "masculine" features?

It never hurts to change your look up every now as psychologically it can help you start the process of building a new you, but don't try to change yourself too much to where you can come off as fake, that can be spotted a mile away.
 
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