BlueScrote
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Batwoman #15 was really good. It was cool to focus on Maggie with everything else going on.
December Comic |OT| Apocalypse NOW - Time Enough At Last.
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Shin Johnpv
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Now I'll have no one to share in my hate of Street Fighter IV and Grant Morrison's Final Crisis.
Good luck to you though!
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Thank god Street Fighter 4 was a 3d game instead of hand drawn sprites. Looked so much better that way.
Street Fighter 4 was great until Super when the roster got too big for me to scrub out win streaks with Honda.
The ultra mechanic was a stroke of genius and all fighting games should follow its example.
Street Fighter 4 was great until Super when the roster got too big for me to scrub out win streaks with Honda.
No idea how you avoided the Sagat army.
TheKaeptain
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Thanks bro.
Didn't need to. In the early days of SF4 all the Ryu/Ken/Sagat scrubs had NO idea how to deal with this shit:
First few months playing that game was a fucking bloodbath. Wasn't until Super and AE that the scrubs got weeded out and the level of competition got to be too much for my drunk ass.
marvel updated their " return to MDCU" discount to 20% from 15% for me. Still 30% off currently for new subscribers with code Holiday12.
I don't understand how Marvel can pretend to be serious about MDCU yet have a website that takes 15-30 seconds to load a page when browsing their MDCU collection.
I don't understand how Marvel can pretend to be serious about MDCU yet have a website that takes 15-30 seconds to load a page when browsing their MDCU collection.
Haemolacria
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Now I'll have no one to share in my hate of Street Fighter IV and Grant Morrison's Final Crisis.
Good luck to you though!
If you'll accept me, I'll gladly share your burden of hating Final Crisis.
Truth be told, I've never really liked Grant Morrison. IMHO, his most enjoyable work has been All-Star Superman and even that was mediocre. In fact, I've really tried to like his work with Batman but there's something about his style of writing, that always ticks me off. I've read most of his Batmen, all the way from Final Crisis to his latest Batman Inc. and I've always felt disappointed if not downright aggravated. Don't tase me, bros.
TetraxShards
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This has probably been asked many, many times, but can someone recommend some good comics podcasts?
And farewell TTOB. Your posts were always interesting even if I didn't always agree. Go draw some awesome comics!
And farewell TTOB. Your posts were always interesting even if I didn't always agree. Go draw some awesome comics!
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
theres plenty of people to hate final crisis, and captain tumors artwork to go around. just like there are plenty of people to display their varied dislikes of gambit towards me.
I'm with you 100%
I listen to comic geek speak's podcast, i like their Previews one where they....go through previews...once a month. They are a little too geeky for me but i was warned per the title.
I like Grant Morrison when i can understand what i'm reading.
The main thing I hate about Morrison is how he indulges in the batshit insanity of comic's history, putting out the most ridiculous things on the basis that some other author did it at one point for poor reasons or just because he thought of it at some point while he was really, really high.
The best thing I can say about him is that some of the ideas he has are really good. I love Damien as a concept. I love how he reimagined the fortress of solitude in Action comics. But good lord, he needs an editor to pull him in on the majority of his wacky shit.
The best thing I can say about him is that some of the ideas he has are really good. I love Damien as a concept. I love how he reimagined the fortress of solitude in Action comics. But good lord, he needs an editor to pull him in on the majority of his wacky shit.
I've been putting off reading Morrison's Batman stuff because I just don't feel like I'm ready to fully take it in. I always have to be in a particular state of mind to appreciate his work. I read Action Comics 14 and the first couple of pages of 15, while I was stoned as fuck, and gave up.
That's really the best part of his Batman stuff, tho.
MisterHero
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So DC's next movie after Dark Knight Returns pt.2 is Superman Unbound, based on the Geoff Johns/Gary Frank Brainiac storyline. I hope they go all-out and stay true to Frank's detailed art, but I doubt it.
That's awesome art. It would be funny if they somehow remember Superboy's old costume, the armor probably wouldn't look good on a kid.In my wildest dreams, the Hickman-written Legion would be drawn by none other than Chris Samnee:
Oh, and this version of the Legion would be lead by Superboy:
Haemolacria
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Guys, I can't express the relief I feel when reading statements like this, because I was certain, that I was just too stupid to grasp the genious of mr. Morrison's work. On the other hand, I do admire his creativeness and the that he has his own vision but the supernatural (like the whole
Simon Hurt/Barbatos-angle
Vanishing Point and Hyper-Adapter
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Hey sweet, I love that story
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Just reread it and I think Whedon's run on Astonishing might be the perfect comic book.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It's batting a 1.000 for "gateway comic I give to people interested in X-Men". Cassaday's realistic pencils are very accessible, as is Whedon's characterizations and wit. There's no crossovers to worry about, no fill-in artist to come to terms with(and in collected edition, the delays don't matter anymore), it's smart, it's funny, and it's got the X-men doing superhero stuff.
Vermillion
Banned
So far, the comics that I've been liking the most have been the ones with an interesting twist. I'm not actively collecting Hawkeye (I'll catch up), it's Hawkeye, but with his Avengers-less adventures.
Continuing:
Gambit is a focus on a thief with powers. New adventures, new characters. Has a Mission Impossible vibe to it.
Scarlet Spider is usual superheroics and all, but with a spider-powered anti-hero. New supporting cast, wide open possibilities, new setting, and even new focuses.
What I'm interested in:
Wolverine: It appears to be a focus on Logan and his connections to the normal people of the city. New cast by and large, new fights, etc. Person of interest vibe, supposedly.
Young Avengers: It's a book about being 18. Growing pains of young heroes - why not?
Granted, I'm also checking out New Avengers and Avengers, but that will fit for super heroics. And Hickman's been praised a lot, so.
Continuing:
Gambit is a focus on a thief with powers. New adventures, new characters. Has a Mission Impossible vibe to it.
Scarlet Spider is usual superheroics and all, but with a spider-powered anti-hero. New supporting cast, wide open possibilities, new setting, and even new focuses.
What I'm interested in:
Wolverine: It appears to be a focus on Logan and his connections to the normal people of the city. New cast by and large, new fights, etc. Person of interest vibe, supposedly.
Young Avengers: It's a book about being 18. Growing pains of young heroes - why not?
Granted, I'm also checking out New Avengers and Avengers, but that will fit for super heroics. And Hickman's been praised a lot, so.
I really like his Red Skull, hate his Cap and the rest of the art is just mediocre to bad.
I have listened to a LOT of comic podcasts and the conclusion that I have come to is that there is no such thing as a good comic podcast. You're just going to have to stick to the bad ones, unfortunately.
Comic Vine and IGN's podcasts talk about new releases every week. CV has probably the two most non-charismatic people I've ever seen/heard on anything ever. They're nice people but I can't really stand listening to them try to squeak out thoughts. The IGN guys seem a lot more personable but fuck Skype podcasts. I listen to either of those whenever enough good books come out in a given week that I want to hear someone talk about them (or when James Robinson goes on CV).
Only comic podcast I listen to every week without fail though is Ryan Higgins' Comic Conspiracy. I could see how people would find him and his hetero lifemate Brock insufferable but I find them hilarious(ly bad people), plus the other dudes they have on their podcast are all great.
In fairness, I haven't read that much of his batman stuff. I'm mostly familiar with him through All Star Superman and his run on action comics. His action comics is just eyerolling, with the most effective moments coming from entirely different writers in the side stories at the end. All Star Superman leaves me baffled as to why people consider it the best superman story. I didn't think it was good at all except for Lex Luthor at the very end, and the movie handled that part better than the comic did.
But as for Batman, the most appealing aspect of Batman to me is the psychology of Bruce's character and his relationships with other people. This is why Snyder rocks. Both Court of Owls and Death of the Family are fucking with Bruce's mind, going after the people closest to Bruce.
I don't want to get too into critiquing Morrison's Batman, because I haven't read his batman run, and that means I don't know exactly how stuff goes down. I only have a general idea. But I feel comfortable saying that I am completely uninterested in nearly everything Morrison promotes. Comics are about being an escapist fantasy to him. It's why a lot of what he writes is designed the way it is. It's about making the reader feel good, have a laugh, feel great fun. And I hate that. The ridiculous fast pace that speeds through every problem is designed to make the character feel pretty unstoppable, but for me it ends up happening too fast to feel invested in the situation and I end up not caring. The solutions that are presented are the kind of idiotically awesome variety that people generally react to in one of two ways: You either just grin and don't care how little sense it makes or just roll your eyes at the chilidishness of it. Guess which group I fall into. And the villains are all indulgently evil so that the reader can feel good when they finally stop him, but I am usually just bored of how transparently evil they are, without any real reasoning behind their actions except "Muwahahaha".
So no, while I admit I haven't read his Batman series, I can't say that I feel the ridiculousness is the greatest strength of Morrison's writing. I admire that he has the balls to actually change things up in comics, giving Batman a son, changing the entire structure of the Batfamily, etc, but for the most part, he writes like an ADHD 5 year old high on pixie sticks. Some people love that, I don't.
krypt0nian
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Morrison hate baffles me. He's the reason I still read comics. Someone who is unabashed in his usage of the rules of the medium, and in the same breath can break every cage there is in new inventive ways.
The same person who can show you how to write monthly superhero perfection with JLA, can do the dada mindfuck of Doom Patrol.
The man is the greatest writer the medium has currently (suck it, Moore), and should be celebrated for his literal genius. But I'm guessing someone who can write on the forefront has to have people who simply cannot come along for the ride. Writers such as William S. Burroughs, Charles Bukowski, and James Joyce have the same issues with the masses.
The same person who can show you how to write monthly superhero perfection with JLA, can do the dada mindfuck of Doom Patrol.
The man is the greatest writer the medium has currently (suck it, Moore), and should be celebrated for his literal genius. But I'm guessing someone who can write on the forefront has to have people who simply cannot come along for the ride. Writers such as William S. Burroughs, Charles Bukowski, and James Joyce have the same issues with the masses.
krypt0nian
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krypt0nian
Banned
Right? It's like they hate comics. But then they're used to pedestrian manchild nonsense on a monthly basis, and at this point cannot judge merit.
Accept them with love. They know not what they do.
Strange that you give us that designation when you couldn't have more perfectly just described Morrison's work.
krypt0nian
Banned
Really had to stretch for that one huh?
So, who currently writing comics is better in your opinion?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
May the God of All Comics shine mercy on these poor fools, and the light that shines from his bald head emulate their path.
krypt0nian
Banned
May the God of All Comics shine mercy on these poor fools, and the light that shines from his bald head emulate their path.
Flex Mentallo sighting is an omen of my utter correctness.
Hosanna. Hosanna.
Really? Wow.
Since he didn't actually counter any of the points I made and just said "You're wrong and suck", I assumed that we were just having a verbal cockfight for shits and giggles. If he really put me on ignore over this, then he's surprisingly sensitive and immature.
I don't see Morrison as the worst writer in comics by a longshot or anything, but I do find him annoying. Rather than wish he'd stop writing, I just wish he wouldn't write what I want to read (Batman) which he is now doing and is going to pull out of DC in total to write his own stuff, which I am happy with.
As for who I consider better, Moore is my all time favorite comic writer. Of whose currently writing, I'm enjoying Snyder's Batman a lot.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Gamble a stamp, Veelk
I can show you how to be a real man!
I can show you how to be a real man!
Moore ain't writing shit right now and while you enjoy the current Batman run do you think Snyder is better overall?
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
You read like somebody who hasn't read Doom Patrol. Or Flex Mentallo. Or The Filth. Or The Invisibles. Or All Star Supes. Or We3. Or anything that Morrison has done aside from Action Comics-- a flawed run which still hits highs that are pure comic greatness.
I read All Star Supes, as I said in my earlier post. I found it mediocre except what he did with Lex at the end. And if one of the high's you are talking about is him learning all medical text in 5 minutes to do an operation on lois, you can keep them, you junkie.
Hard to say, since I didn't read Morrison's Batman. I can't make a direct comparison. However, I feel I have a good grasp on his style and tone and method of writing from the works I have read. The most I can say is that, yes, I like Snyder's more slow paced, psychological way of doing things.
I wouldn't blame anyone for not liking Morrison from only Action. There are def moments of greatness but there's also a whole lot of stuff that just doesn't hit.
e: also true for Batman tbh. The new Inc. stuff w/ Burnham is p. great however.
krypt0nian
Banned
I don't ignore anyone here, but someone who posts this as a reply to Morrison's work doesn't deserve an answer. That's why you're muted. You basically posted the equivalent of red is green. I don't argue with crazy.
So you'd say only Snyder is better right now? I was expecting more writers since you don't seem to like Morrison very much. Looks like you really haven't read much of his stuff though.
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