Fighting Games Weekly | December 24-30 | How will we free Lando now?
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Professor Beef
Banned
I actually had a question for the AE warriors in here. How different would the combos of charge characters be if their Ultras were changed from charge motions to regular double QCF motions?
Ragingnight
Member
Not sure how combos would change but holy shit that would make guile and honda super dangerous.
Both of Blankas ultras would be awesome. U1 for a always available high damage reversal/punish and U2 would mean your opponent could risk all kinds of things whereas now they only have to be mindful if you have a charge.
Ah, you found my pic! haha
How so? Just curious, because I haven't heard of this at all.
TheThunder
Member
How ?
Part of what made him so strong in Super is that he could punish fireball characters while still walking forward.
Easier to react to fireballs while holding down back at mid or full screen, just wiggle the stick.
Valid point, but I think being able to react instantly rather than pumping a motion is better.
Not that it really matters, nobody ever really uses U2 anyways.
Plenty of Bison players (myself included) used U2 when it was a QCFx2 motion -- not only could be used for instant reaction to fireballs (U2 came out fast enough that you didn't need to pump/buffer it -- it could be used while walking forward, which is a major part of Bison's game), but it also comboed as well as U1 (after FA or j.MP juggle) and could be used pretty much as a 50/50 on opponent wakeup.
The utility of U2 was dramatically decreased by the change to a charge motion (and a shitty charge motion at that). That no one uses U2 anymore is itself proof of that.
RockTurtle
Member
easier hundred hand slap into ultra. think about that.
Fair enough, I guess when the ultra is that fast it doesn't make a difference if you can do it off of charge or not. I've never really played Bison (or any charge character for that matter) but I wonder why people don't just pick U2 anyways for the desperation 50/50 mixup and the threat of a full screen punish for fireballs, as well as baiting people into doing shit by controlling the range the ultra travels. I suppose it would get picked more often if the damage wasn't so poor, and you couldn't escape it with invincible reversals.
Does U2 catch most backdashes? I assume you could just do it when you see someone doing FA trying to catch a slide from mid range since it's armor breaking.
I would play Guile if he wasn't a charge character.
its for balance
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Because charge motion moves are superior to regular motion moves. Thus the charge is there for balance.
Ragingnight
Member
if guiles sonic booms were QCF...
That would be some broke ass shit
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there was a mod that changed SB to QCF and it was just really stupid. Also if guile SB were QCF and flashkick was DP...Guile would probably be top 10 easily.
Instead of balancing the game regularly, gimping controls as a trade off is pretty dumb.
Slamtastic
Member
So we should switch to Smash controls and Zangief's Down + B (Spinning Pile Driver) should just have the same amount of startup as it takes a person to spin the stick?
I'm so stealing this Thor/RR/Vergil BnB from Serpentaurus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Rfl-OnXp0&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Rfl-OnXp0&feature=youtu.be
No way. Variance in controls make for more fun fighting games and act as a balancing mechanism.
That team sounds very 'anime'. Props to him for being original but I give it two weeks before he switches back.
KingofSarus
Banned
Guile with "QCF+P" Sonic Boom(s) and "QCB+K" Flash Kick(s).........
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
That event is going to be SO good.
RockTurtle
Member
because of the shape of my thumbs, it is very difficult for me to do DP motions or super motions from 2nd player side on dpad.
(and no, it's not a lack of practice. i been playing fighting games since sf2 on genesis. that's why i have been playing on pc with a crappy ex fighting stick 2 to overcome this)
charge characters have been my saving grace. they provide variety in characters and setups and gameplay style.
Rocket on point?
why is he playing those characters, there is nobody for him dickride
kevo_huevo
Member
For Honda it would actually make FADC hundred hands worth doing. I fucking cringe everytime mike ross tries it. It's better to FADC the jab instead.
Professor Beef
Banned
Nah, it's the ultimate dickriding team. He's dickriding 3 different players all on one team, it's brilliant!
But the team will suck and we'll be dickriding Chris G again in no time, you are right tho, it's brilliant, he's S tier in dickriding
WesternHeretic
Member
In the last two post dick riding has been used 4 times, and suck has been used once.
Sounds like this thread is back to normal I see.
Sounds like this thread is back to normal I see.
JeTmAn81
Member
How does thumb shape prevent you from doing the same motion from a different side? I thought it was a mental thing that kept most from being unable to do motions on a specific side.
What combo are you talking about in particular?
Blasted tiny text. TYVM
I don't think it's a mental thing, at least not entirely. I mean, your hand isn't symmetrical- obviously so motions will be naturally easier on one side or the other.
Not bad, an actual original team. I would like to see him use Strange 2nd though.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Team low ass health
Teknopathetic
Member
"Instead of balancing the game regularly, gimping controls as a trade off is pretty dumb."
Balancing the game "regularly" would make Guile play a lot more like yet another Shoto and not "Guile," though. Pretty simple concept to understand.
Balancing the game "regularly" would make Guile play a lot more like yet another Shoto and not "Guile," though. Pretty simple concept to understand.
I have a question for you fighting game experts. Was Killer Instinct a good fighting game? Personally I loved the fast gameplay and the combos, but was it a good game gameplay mechanics wise? Would it work competitively for example?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UY3hh8D_w
So sad they never made a sequel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UY3hh8D_w
So sad they never made a sequel.
SolarPowered
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Some people actually want that.