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[Shotgun Kiss]

I skipped Black/White and Black 2/White 2 (well, I own Black 2, but it's still in its shrink-wrap, and I have no plans on starting it), because I got tired of Pokemon games barely changing at all. Because X and Y look like the genuine generational leap we should have had years ago, I'll be jumping back in.

I sincerely hope they seriously revamp all the DV/EV high-level bullshit. My biggest problem with the Pokemon games is that to be a high-level player, it requires an obscene amount of time and patience that is unrealistic for most people. I shouldn't have to spend countless hours breeding in the hopes that I get a Pokemon with the stats/nature I want. I should be able to control those variables in some way. Similarly, looking for and killing specific Pokemon dozens of times to raise a certain stat isn't fun.

Pokemon has a really deep meta-game that most people don't even know about, as the games themselves make no attempt to introduce it. Instead you have to use stat-tracking tools online, and wade through a vast amount of bullshit that soaks up hours/days/weeks of your time to reach a point where you can be considered a competitive player.

This isn't World of Warcraft; putting a good team together should not be more about the time-investment than actual skill or strategy.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Skipped Black&White 1 and 2 because Diamond and Pearl were disappointing. But this? This I will play. Looks like a major step forward.

EDIT: Though as the post above mentioned, I hope some of the older archaic gameplay design decisions are changed.

Yeah HMs need to go.

With that said it's really wrong to judge a "new" gen with an "old" gen. Improvements happen and whatnot. The terrible DP speed is fixed for instance (thank god).

I skipped Black/White and Black 2/White 2 (well, I own Black 2, but it's still in its shrink-wrap, and I have no plans on starting it), because I got tired of Pokemon games barely changing at all. Because X and Y look like the genuine generational leap we should have had years ago, I'll be jumping back in.

I sincerely hope they seriously revamp all the DV/EV high-level bullshit. My biggest problem with the Pokemon games is that to be a high-level player, it requires an obscene amount of time and patience that is unrealistic for most people. I shouldn't have to spend countless hours breeding in the hopes that I get a Pokemon with the stats/nature I want. I should be able to control those variables in some way. Similarly, one-shorting a specific Pokemon dozens of times to raise a certain stat isn't fun.

Pokemon has a really deep meta-game that most people don't even know about, as the games themselves make no attempt to introduce it. Instead you have to use stat-tracking tools online, and wade through a vast amount of bullshit that soaks up hours/days/weeks of your time to reach a point where you can be considered a competitive player.

This isn't World of Warcraft; putting a good team together should not be more about the time-investment than actual skill or strategy.

tbqh BW made natures and IV easy to select via breeding, and EVs are pretty much easy to do in BW.

 

[Wiz]

I wonder who will be waiting for Pokemon Z Version?

 

[evanmisha]

TEAM FROAKIE GO

Grass/Dark, Fire/Flying and Water/Fighting is what I'm predicting.

Grass/Ground, Fire/Psychic, and... Water/Ice? Water/Dragon? Water/Fighting is boring.

EDIT: WATER/NORMAL!

 

[DragonSworne]

Water/flying

 

[Neiteio]

Just saw the new poll in the OP, and HOLY SHIT -- EatChildren is a starter? I always wanted an Australian-type Pokemon!

(Voted for Froakie, though)

((Also, I predict Water/Ice for Froakie -- the colors, and the "frog" part of the name also sounds like "frosty"))

 

[MidnightScott]

Omg heart attack fuck fuck fuck im so.excited!!!!!

Thank you Nintendo I love you

 

[Muku]

TEAM FROAKIE GO

Grass/Dark, Fire/Flying and Water/Fighting is what I'm predicting.

I hope Flying isn't the second type it becomes. I'm digging the Fire/Psychic combo folks have been saying. Just really hope it doesn't go flying. If it's secondary was Flying I'd probably would seriously consider grass then.

 

[also]

I put some stuff in the OP.

You should probably add that the new region will most likely be inspired by France:

 

[JordanN]

I predicted it! Full 3D.

Nice to see the hype delivered.

 

[red13th]

Just saw the new poll in the OP, and HOLY SHIT -- EatChildren is a starter? I always wanted an Australian-type Pokemon!

If you use Vegemite, is it super effective?

 

[Dr.Palutena]

I still dont understand how this is supposed to make it better; it makes it worse.

The fact that you dont have to use them as much, YET suddenly you are randomly asked to use one makes it fucking worse than before based on the fact that you might mistakenly think you're free of carrying around Pokemon with HMs.

if you're gonna do that why not remove them completely? it makes it stand out even more as a ridiculously backwards design choice

they need to fucking go for good and never come back. Grow some balls Game Freak

In black and white, after the first hm use, they more or less become optional pathway stuff that you can easily explore later on your own time with a party you can afford to have an hm pokemon or two on, I'm not saying I want HMs to stay, but BW/BW2 was far from worse from this change from previous gens, far from it.

 

[suavelicious]

Some captions from the trailer:

still lol @ the glasses stuck in midair on the left

 

[B-Dubs]

An insane NeoGAF hype thread paid off in spades, will miracles never cease?

 

[ffdgh]

Team chespin for me....or fennekin. Gosh decisions

 

[Santiako]

I really hope that HMs can be used as items this time.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Kinda glad it's still early in the morning. 15-year-olds and West Coast games journalists haven't woken up yet to try and out-snark each other about Pokemon games being dumb and never changing and every game after Red/Blue was bad so I never played them and does anybody still care about Pokemon???

 

[Arctual]

Wow, this is great. I'm of the opinion that it was time for Pokemon to move to using polygons over sprites. The hype really delivered, it's more than I hoped.

 

[Salsa]

In black and white, after the first hm use, they more or less become optional pathway stuff that you can easily explore later on your own time with a party you can afford to have an hm pokemon or two on, I'm not saying I want HMs to stay, but BW/BW2 was far from worse from this change from previous gens, far from it.

2 was worse than 1, wich is even weirder, but I still mantain that if you're gonna use them less then I'll never understand why they'll use them at all.

Less of a bad thing in this particular situation almost makes it more infuriating, all im saying.

 

[EatChildren]

You should probably add that the new region will mostlikely be inspired by France:

Added. Thank you.

 

[Berordn]

In black and white, after the first hm use, they more or less become optional pathway stuff that you can easily explore later on your own time with a party you can afford to have an hm pokemon or two on, I'm not saying I want HMs to stay, but BW/BW2 was far from worse from this change from previous gens, far from it.

Was it? The only mandatory use I remember was with surf, at the very end of the game.

Cut was completely optional throughout, strength only created shortcuts that I can remember. Waterfall was useful but not required to get through Victory Road.

 

[Korosenai]

Chespin looks so weird. Like... What is it?

 

[AwakenedCloud]

If you had played gen 5 you would know hms are used so sparingly it's like they arent even there, and tms are unlimited now too.

Wait what? I played through Black and I never noticed this, I'm so conditioned to save TMs and they were unlimited?!

 

[Gregorn]

You should probably add that the new region will mostlikely be inspired by France:

I hope the water segment of the region is the English Channel, complete with white cliffs and castles.

I <3 how happy Pokemon makes people.

 

[papercamm]

Team Chespin by the way.

 

[Emitan]

Kinda glad it's still early in the morning. 15-year-olds and West Coast games journalists haven't woken up yet to try and out-snark each other about Pokemon games being dumb and never changing and every game after Red/Blue was bad so I never played them and does anybody still care about Pokemon???

But GAF is already doing this!

 

[Double]

Sounds like someone hasn't played BW2.

SUDDENLY HM USE EVERYWHERE

HM? Explain plx

edit: i know TM and VM!
edit2: i accidentally a quote

 

[DragonSworne]

Chespin looks so weird. Like... What is it?

Grass version of scrafty

 

[Salsa]

Grass version of scrafty

giving it too much credit

 

[Kjellson]

Probably been mentioned already, but the deer legendary reminds me of the Deer God in Princess Mononoke.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Chespin looks so weird. Like... What is it?

An Awesome Pokemon.

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

Turns out I have 200 hours in White 2. Moderately disappointed in myself.

 

[FillerB]

Added. Thank you.

Might also want to add that all shown gameplay footage is still subject to change as they are from a development build or else we are going to get endless "GRAPHICSSUX" and "LOLFLOATINGGLASSES" posts.

edit:
oh and this GIF

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Was it? The only mandatory use I remember was with surf, at the very end of the game.

Cut was completely optional throughout, strength only created shortcuts that I can remember. Waterfall was useful but not required to get through Victory Road.

I thought i remember having to cut something near the begging and then that was that in BW, the surfing was more for an optional route in BW than something you had to do for the story. If the cut i remember doing near the beggining of BW was really optional then I can't actually think of an instant where any hm is needed in bw then. BW2 is still a different story though.

 

[Korosenai]

Grass version of scrafty

I'm not seeing it.

I wish that when they reveal starters, they reveal all three stages of that Pokemon.

 

[Banana Kid]

I want everyone to talk less and everything to take less time. Buttoning through overlong conversations and endless tutorials got super irritating in Gen V.

Using a Pokemon center should not take as long as it does!

 

[Neiteio]

Chespin looks so weird. Like... What is it?

I don't know what Chespin is, but I likes it! Froakie's my favorite, and Chespin is tied with Fennekin in my eyes. They're all awesome. What's really refreshing about Chespin, though, is he's a mammalian Grass-type starter. Reptiles and amphibians were tapped out, imo.

 

[Rollo Lawson]

I love grass types so...

Only time I strayed was with Piplup

 

[Warrior_Keoni]

All of these pokemon designs are really cute. This is probably a must-buy come October for me since the days of Red/Blue.

 

[Brickhunt]

I'm really glad they are finally moving away from sprites. Both in battle as in the world interaction. That said, I didn't get a good impression from the graphics. The battle ones are awesome, but the overworld feels like DS-like, but personally I don't give a shit. Nice to see that Pokémon is really evolving now.

My main worry, as it's been pointed out, is the passing. I'm sure it will be awesome to see all attacks animated, but there will be a moment that I will be bored, so I hope we get at least an Option to skip attack animation.

Regarding my expecations, I hope that Gamefreak takes a page from BW and continue to twist the plot in this game.

 

[Damon Bennet]

nm

 

[Mista Koo]

I want to make evolution fanart but besides being a talentless hack my tablet isn't working

 

[Diprosalic]

You should probably add that the new region will most likely be inspired by France:

if they don't do a subplot where you have to defeat a gang that hunts/eats the frog starter i will be so disappointed.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Kinda glad it's still early in the morning. 15-year-olds and West Coast games journalists haven't woken up yet to try and out-snark each other about Pokemon games being dumb and never changing and every game after Red/Blue was bad so I never played them and does anybody still care about Pokemon???

Tricky I Shadow already posted.

 

[Brofield]

Fennekin for Firefox.

Want version Y because Red, want Version X because cooler legendary.

...and Pokemon Z will be yellow with a shark.

 

[Emitan]

I thought i remember having to cut something near the begging and then that was that in BW, the surfing was more for an optional route in BW than something you had to do for the story. If the cut i remember doing near the beggining of BW was really optional then I can't actually think of an instant where any hm is needed in bw then. BW2 is still a different story though.

You were required to use Cut in the Dream Yard but that's it. BW2 has Surfing and Strength use.

 

[Hot Coldman]

my bro Hitmontop is gonna look so good in 3D

 

[The Adder]

Also, is it just me, or is the art done with that same washed-out colors look as in Gold/Silver?

 

[RoadHazard]

Good to see this franchise seemingly going somewhere, but why does it look like an upressed DS game? The visuals remind me of the DS Zelda games, only a bit more detailed.

 

[MetalGuardian]

Freakin' Froakie showing the other starters what the hell is up in this poll. I shudder to think of the ungodly visit he paid some of you blokes just as you were about to click your vote in for fucking Chespin. Froakie will have none of that shit, and he will ninja dash straight through your fucking limbic system until you succumb to his dark plots and promise your allegiance. Then he'll hop the fuck out the window and bounce away like not a goddam thing happened. Who is gonna stop a cute-ass frog merrily jumping along outside your house? No entity, living or dead, mortal or deified, has either the gall or even the scruples to detect the sadistic stealth swag that Froakie exumes with each goddam amphibian breath. You bitches trying to block Froakie's climb to the top better step the fuck off, or you just might croak.

Come now GAF brethren, before it's too late, take the pledge and swear your fealty to