X-Factor USA S2 |OT| Hit Me Baby One More Time

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Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

They're one of the most offensive bands out there to me but if you like them I won't try to stop you.

I remember when Tate made it through the judge's house and I rolled my eyes cause everyone knew he would automatically win once he got his hands on 'merica's votes. :(
 
Eh, Carly has nobody to blame but her damn self. A confident contestant would have been able to rise to the occasion and shine regardless of her partner (see: Jessica Sanchez battling for dear life against Jennifer Holiday in their finale duet of "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going"). But Carly sank and faded. If a Leanne Rimes fresh from the opium den was still able to out-sing and out-shine her then she has nobody to blame but herself and deserved to lose.
Preach it gurl

In related flop news...

While Tuesday’s The Voice finale hit a season high and ranked as the show’s biggest closer yet, last night’s X-Factor finale was below its best numbers this season and fell notably from last year. X-Factor was seen by 9.6 million viewers and had a 3.1 rating, down 18 percent from its first season finale. Factor was also down 37 percent compared to The Voice finale on Tuesday. Broadcast rivals aired modestly rated repeats and specials.
Compared to, what, 14 million viewers for The Void? The show needs to move beyond self-parody at some point, but with Simon at the helm...unlikely.
 
Eh, Carly has nobody to blame but her damn self. A confident contestant would have been able to rise to the occasion and shine regardless of her partner (see: Jessica Sanchez battling for dear life against Jennifer Holiday in their finale duet of "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going"). But Carly sank and faded. If a Leanne Rimes fresh from the opium den was still able to out-sing and out-shine her then she has nobody to blame but herself and deserved to lose.

But...she's just 13 bro! If I was in that position at 13 years old, I would have handled stress and adversity worse than Beatrice Miller!! And Tate didn't exactly light up the stage in his duet, but he got through it just like Carly did. Tate would have probably won the show even if Carly did have a masterful performance that night anyway
 
But...she's just 13 bro! If I was in that position at 13 years old, I would have handled stress and adversity worse than Beatrice Miller!! And Tate didn't exactly light up the stage in his duet, but he got through it just like Carly did. Tate would have probably won the show even if Carly did have a masterful performance that night anyway


True since she's been on a downward spiral for two weeks.
 
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....and Idol will start in a couple weeks and crush them both...


Whats your point exactly? That the Voice managed to peak at almost half the audience Idol had at its peak?
 
I still don't understand why Idol is now irrelevant in most other countries, but in America, Idol is still king. X-Factor supplanted Idol everywhere else, but Americans haven't really adopted it. The production of X-Factor America does seem lackluster compared to Idol so maybe that's how Simon wants it to be...
 
I still don't understand why Idol is now irrelevant in most other countries, but in America, Idol is still king. X-Factor supplanted Idol everywhere else, but Americans haven't really adopted it. The production of X-Factor America does seem lackluster compared to Idol so maybe that's how Simon wants it to be...

American Idol

fuck yeah.
 
What on earth.

It certainly is. X Factor and The Voice are pure garbage in comparison. The format of idol is simply superior. The whole "mentor" angle of these shows has been a massive fake flop from day one.
The level of talent on X-Factor and Idol's respective Top 12/13's these past two years have been pretty bad overall, but I'd argue that X-Factor still wins out regardless of format.
 
What on earth.

It certainly is. X Factor and The Voice are pure garbage in comparison. The format of idol is simply superior. The whole "mentor" angle of these shows has been a massive fake flop from day one.

Idol also has the best host. Seacrest shits all over The Voice and X-Factor.
 
and the judges don't sound bad and always being positive to the contestants.
It's better than being schizophrenic with your criticism. JLo and Randy would praise the ever-living shit out of some awful WGWG lullaby and then massacre something that was actually listenable.

At least Demi and Simon talk about vocals. The clowns on Idol never bothered, and by the looks of it, the new panel is so self-absorbed that they'll be even worse.
 
Rofl lets not pretend the vocals on X Factor this season were not complete disasters when compared to Idol.

Another reason I hate the show. Its all style over substance.




You can learn to perform later (see Carrie Underwood).....a bad singer will not become a good one.
 
Rofl lets not pretend the vocals on X Factor this season were not complete disasters when compared to Idol.

Another reason I hate the show. Its all style over substance.




You can learn to perform later (see Carrie Underwood).....a bad singer will not become a good one.
Huh? A show in which clowns like Heejun and Colton make it to the Top 12 is not one worth bragging about talent-wise.

I'd argue that Melanie, Carly Rose, and some individual members of Fifth Harmony were every bit as good as Jessica or Pia. And Melanie and Tate certainly outclass Phillip and...whoever won before he did.

Obviously I'm only talking about recent Idol. If you go back to the well with S4 (as you did with your Carrie reference), you'll find real stars. But the show is long past its golden years.
 
Huh? A show in which clowns like Heejun and Colton make it to the Top 12 is not one worth bragging about talent-wise.

I'd argue that Melanie, Carly Rose, and some individual members of Fifth Harmony were every bit as good as Jessica or Pia. And Melanie and Tate certainly outclass Phillip and...whoever won before he did.

Colton was fine.

Heejun was a joke contestant. This was already known.

I completely disagree on the vocals. This is the first season I watched X Factor and the constant pitchyness from every contestant outside Carly (who is 13 and irrelevant to music to begin with) was staggering. I felt like I had been punched in the face. Plus the worst singers on X Factor imo are far worse than the worst that make it through on Idol. Looking at least season of Idol there were 8 contestants I thought were legit talented. On X Factor that number was more like 3.

The costumes, at choreography, etc all add nothing to the show....and I would take Idols inane judges over the mentor format any day.
 
Idol has just become dreadfully boring despite having the greater talent pool year in and out. In great part this is due to how formulaic the show has become, to the extent that even voting results are formulaic. Idol needs more than a panel change in order to freshen up the procedures.

X Factor supplanted Idol everywhere else because its format simply leads to a more entertaining show; even the subpar USA version is a more entertaining product to watch, if only for the weekly trainwrecks.
 
What on earth.

It certainly is. X Factor and The Voice are pure garbage in comparison. The format of idol is simply superior. The whole "mentor" angle of these shows has been a massive fake flop from day one.
Yup. I only watch xfactor because of Simon. I hoped the other judges would be more interesting.
 
Meh.

The only changes I would make to Idol is legit judging and allowing groups. I don't want mentors or backup dancers anywhere near it.
Idol just needs LESS.

LESS padding (Tommy Hilfiger?), LESS instruments (remove the second G from WGWG), LESS cheese (I don't really care about your dead wife).

Idol is karaoke at heart, and it should embrace that simplicity rather than running further away from it.

Perhaps extending the age limit would be a good idea; lawd knows the last season was rife with too many children.
 
Idol just needs LESS.

LESS padding (Tommy Hilfiger?), LESS instruments (remove the second G from WGWG), LESS cheese (I don't really care about your dead wife).

Idol is karaoke at heart, and it should embrace that simplicity rather than running further away from it.

Perhaps extending the age limit would be a good idea; lawd knows the last season was rife with too many children.

They need to do a better job of selecting their Top 13, as well. There is no excuse for the top 13 they had last year.
 
Rofl lets not pretend the vocals on X Factor this season were not complete disasters when compared to Idol.

Another reason I hate the show. Its all style over substance.




You can learn to perform later (see Carrie Underwood).....a bad singer will not become a good one.

You're watching different shows than I am. Wow.

Idol has just become dreadfully boring despite having the greater talent pool year in and out. In great part this is due to how formulaic the show has become, to the extent that even voting results are formulaic. Idol needs more than a panel change in order to freshen up the procedures.

X Factor supplanted Idol everywhere else because its format simply leads to a more entertaining show; even the subpar USA version is a more entertaining product to watch, if only for the weekly trainwrecks.


This. I watched X Factor UK two years ago online, and learned how MUCH better the format it was, and why it replaced AI everywhere but here.
 
I don't follow the format much, but I thought one of the reasons that X Factor is bigger than Idol abroad is because it supplanted Idol abroad?

Also, I really don't think X Factor's format is all that great, or even all that entertaining. Maybe it was at one time, but by now the format has been run through so many focus groups that everything feels put-on and nothing feels genuine or organic. That's boring, especially when it's as half-assed as it often is on X Factor. So often the only thing I find entertaining on X Factor is all the shit that's NOT supposed to happen. But you can't count on that, and that doesn't make the show genuinely entertaining, at least to me. There were so many times where Khloesus' ICONIC hosting (read: so bad it's good) and seeing Britney fail utterly were the only things keeping me coming back. And with the importance of quality talent being so undercut, whenever the format breaks you can't even rely on entertaining performances.

I said it at the end of last season and it still holds true: X Factor could use some polish, more out-of-the-box thinking, and a better producer. Also, get rid of assigning judges act types.



Oh, and stanning for Xtina aside, I think The Voice has consistently had the better group of contestants overall. Sometimes they may lack SUPERSTARS, but more often than not the contestants that make it far are at least COMPETENT, which is way more than X Factor or last season's Idol can say. So even when the format starts to become a little boring, you can at least rely on good performances to keep you interested.
 
Idol just needs LESS.

LESS padding (Tommy Hilfiger?), LESS instruments (remove the second G from WGWG), LESS cheese (I don't really care about your dead wife).

Idol is karaoke at heart, and it should embrace that simplicity rather than running further away from it.

Perhaps extending the age limit would be a good idea; lawd knows the last season was rife with too many children.

Truth bombs right here. Idol is/was so good because it was just about the voice. Everything else was secondary.

But they're always gonna do sob story packages, and I don't really mind them that much.
 
I think you forgot about the part where they're garbage. They'll go nowhere quick.

I don't know. One Direction is just marginally talented like E3, and they took the world.

I'd say that the little girls and boys could embrace three marginally talented surfer boys who claim in the beginning not to be a boy band and then proceed to be a wholly uninteresting impression of one.
 
lol was just about to post that. Is "E3" trademarked? Can Emblem 3 be known as E3 legally? Would be epic if their album drops the same day as the E3 conferences to create mass confusion across all social media.

They can both have E3 because they are in different industries. Trademarks aren't absolute.

They should totally do it though. The hilarity that would ensue.
 
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