Lance Armstrong plans to admit doping to Oprah (USA Today)

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So am I right in thinking that he is now going to find himself in court/settling with people for the next few years? I realise the statute has run put on perjury but I'd imagine there will be more than just the Sunday times coming after him now.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
I'de almost be willing to bet that every wrastler in the WWE is on steroids. The acto...I mean wrestlers need to look big for the show, and steroids could help them reach their vein popping Hercules physique faster. Only difference is, if we found out all WWE wrestlers were on steroids, no one would care!
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The same is true for "real sports" like MMA as well. 85% of athletes are using it (steroids).

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Emma O'Reilly, the woman he sued, called a prostitute and a alcoholic, responds to the interview.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/2013/0118/1224329009257.html

Lance Armstrong’s former masseuse has rejected his apology after he admitted bullying her for speaking out about his cheating. Dubliner Emma O’Reilly, who the Texan cyclist sued after she publicly denounced his use of performance-enhancing drugs, said his confession was “old news” to her.
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She said sorry was “not at all” enough after what he put her through, but that she would not be suing him back because she did not want to employ his tactics. Asked if she felt vindicated by Armstrong’s fall from grace, she said: “All of it has never felt like vindication — I can never think of another word to use, but I hate that word because it suggests almost that there was some vindictiveness.

“I had only ever spoken about it because I hated seeing what some of the riders were going through, because not all the riders were comfortable with cheating as Lance was.

“You could see when they went over to the dark side their personalities change, and I always felt it was an awful shame — these were young lads in the prime of their life having to make this awful decision, kind of living the dream, yet the dream is a nightmare."
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perfectchaos007 said:
I'de almost be willing to bet that every wrastler in the WWE is on steroids. The acto...I mean wrestlers need to look big for the show, and steroids could help them reach their vein popping Hercules physique faster. Only difference is, if we found out all WWE wrestlers were on steroids, no one would care!
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Why would anyone care about WWE doping? They aren't cheating.
 
Reuters has an article about it..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/18/us-cycling-armstrong-admitting-idUSBRE90H04620130118

And as a result of his confession, the Texan now faces the prospect of various legal challenges and orders to repay some of the millions of dollars he earned from his success.

One company, Texas-based SCA Promotions, said it would sue the fallen cyclist if he did not pay back $12 million they paid out for Tour de France wins.

"He doesn't deserve, and is not entitled to, that money," Jeff Tillotson, a lawyer for SCA Promotions told Reuters.

Legal experts said that while Armstrong was unlikely to face criminal exposure, his admission would make it more difficult to defend against civil lawsuits, including a federal whistleblower claim filed by former team mate Floyd Landis.
"There are lawyers across the country representing various interests who are recording that interview," said Matt Orwig, a former federal prosecutor now with the law firm Jones Day.

"From a legal perspective, his issues are becoming more difficult, not less."
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gofreak said:
Emma O'Reilly, the woman he sued, called a prostitute and a alcoholic, responds to the interview.
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Yeah, she's always come across as 100% righteous and classy. I'd want to crush the fucker personally, but fair play to her, she's a much, much better person.
 
Okay, he's admitted to being a cheater and a fraud, can the MSM now please get off Armstrongs dick, forget he ever existed and stop giving his ego the attention it craves. The man is a scumbag and nothing less. Time to move on.
 
GoddyofAus said:
Okay, he's admitted to being a cheater and a fraud, can the MSM now please get off Armstrongs dick, forget he ever existed and stop giving his ego the attention it craves. The man is a scumbag and nothing less. Time to move on.
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Part two coming tonight.. so no..
 
TheExorzist said:
I can guarantee you that there is not a single one.
You need to wake up. Sports is full of doping and everyone is using.
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Guarantee?
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Is it wrong to assume that you just follow the sport through the tabloids and base your "facts" on what they write?

I'm in no way saying that it has become a clean sport, but I can guarantee you that it has improved since Armstrong's crimes. If you think nothing has changed since then, I'd ask you to wake up.
 
Part two will probably be the sympathetic, touchy feely part. So everyone leaves with a nice cuddly impression of Armstrong rather than the sociopathic impression he gave everyone last night. Nicely manipulative.

We wub you Lance.
 
How anyone could watch cycling again is beyond me. The sports is filled with cheaters and the only skill required for cycling is endurance, so when you take that out of the picture by cheating there's absolutely no reason to watch it anymore. People could say football has steroids too but at least you need to have more skills than something everyone learns to do when they 5 years old or whatever.
 
Feature said:
How anyone could watch cycling again is beyond me. The sports is filled with cheaters and the only skill required for cycling is endurance, so when you take that out of the picture by cheating there's absolutely no reason to watch it anymore. People could say football has steroids too but at least you need to have more skills than something everyone learns to do when they 5 years old or whatever.
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you just don´t get it do you..?
 
gutter_trash said:
it's a false apology.

He wants to go into triathlon and expects you to forget his cheating by saying "I'm sorry"
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I doubt USADA will make any sort of deal with him. Everyone at the top from that period doped, nothing new here, just need to catch them. I don't see how you could defend letting Armstrong compete again, the guy will become the poster boy of doping for years to come.
 
Sports journalism's propensity for hagiography is something else.

I don't feel any sympathy for Armstrong's former sycophants in the media, especially when several of their contemporaries were actually doing their jobs and taking Armstrong to task for his douchebaggery.
 
Part two will probably be about money, to some extent at least. He's profited hugely from cheating, and it wasn't ever touched on in the first part, and it's not like it's all soft balls, she's bound to be asking at some point.
 
My conservative friends are cheering him. They all pretty much claim he's a true american hero and "nuddin wrong with leveling the playing field, dem frenchies are mad they lost". I gagged.
 
While I'm as happy as anyone to see cheaters get outed, and I was thrilled by Armstrong's downfall over the past year, I can't help but feel a little weird at some of the outrage about "CHEATING", when it's basically an open secret that most of the peloton is doing the exact same thing.


When baseball players were getting outed, I didn't feel the same conflict because I knew a fairly decent number of baseball players were clean. So the drug users clearly had an advantage, and were cheating without question.


So in summary, I'm thrilled to see a bully get his, and I'm happy to see a cheater outed, but at the same time there is this tiny bit of conflict in the back of my brain about the "cheater" label. It feels a little weird when I think about it.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Spare us all the "I'm need to think I'm cooler than everyone else who thinks he's a piece of shit because I need to get the attention that I didn't get from mom from people in the internet instead" devil's advocate counter-position.
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That's the most laughably incorrect summation of my perspective on any issue yet. I'm more lamenting the fact that this is major, major news. That people care enough to become so emotionally invested in something that is almost entirely irrelevant to their lives.

Perhaps not being American is why I dont get it. I concede that. In all honestly I think this entire event is a chance for people to lap up the schadenfreude of a former national idol being stripped bare to the bones of his existence.
 
Now they need to clean out the rest of the spot. I'd hate for this to be "WE GOT EM" and then they go back to running events where 3/4 the field is dirty. If you're going to go all out on doping, get everyone, not just your all-star.
 
To think of the depths Athletes go to deny this. After what Lance did who is going to ever believe anyone else denying it.(Baseball players etc.)

"Yeah Lance denied it also, look how that ended."

I don't really give an F about athletes using PEDs though. Whatever.
It's all that other shit that Lance did that is really troubling.
 
God...frey Jones said:
That's the most laughably incorrect summation of my perspective on any issue yet. I'm more lamenting the fact that this is major, major news. That people care enough to become so emotionally invested in something that is almost entirely irrelevant to their lives.

Perhaps not being American is why I dont get it. I concede that. In all honestly I think this entire event is a chance for people to lap up the schadenfreude of a former national idol being stripped bare to the bones of his existence.
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I think there is some truth in what you're saying.

I get it that this story is interesting, and I certainly was tuning in to watch last night, but the people who seem really emotionally invested kind of weird me out.

But I kind of feel like that is a larger problem with society in general right now. People feel the need to jump to one side of any debate. It's black and white. You can find it everywhere, at least in American society today. Nuanced positions are not common.
 
AlimNassor said:
My conservative friends are cheering him. They all pretty much claim he's a true american hero and "nuddin wrong with leveling the playing field, dem frenchies are mad they lost". I gagged.
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Remember when George Bush went after steroids?

This makes no sense. Conservative are usually the one's against drug use.
 
Leveling the playing field is an honourable position, people should, by telling people their peers are cheats, and having them thrown out. I can't imagine a logical position that taking performance enhancing drugs is like air in tires or water in bottles.

I hope this brings down lots of sports, and they're rebuilt, legitimately, that seems like wishful thinking though, certainly.

I don't get the political thing either, no one likes cheats, red or blue.
 
once again disgraced public figure goes to oprah for a terrible interview where she lobs softballs to them and kid gloves it. howard stern or even a pierce morgan would have made the interview so much more compelling and would have actually gotten lance to admit it and say the actual words. oprah is just a terrible interviewer, yeah yeah she's a great person blah blah, but she can't interview people for shit.
 
jmdajr said:
Remember when George Bush went after steroids?

This makes no sense. Conservative are usually the one's against drug use.
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Yeah, but what if it was Americans using steroids to beat those filthy ruskies. Fighting for the pride of the flag with the heart of an eagle!
 
RangersFan said:
once again disgraced public figure goes to oprah for a terrible interview where she lobs softballs to them and kid gloves it. howard stern or even a pierce morgan would have made the interview so much more compelling and would have actually gotten lance to admit it and say the actual words. oprah is just a terrible interviewer, yeah yeah she's a great person blah blah, but she can't interview people for shit.
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What? I thought she was tough.
 
Deadly Cyclone said:
Now they need to clean out the rest of the spot. I'd hate for this to be "WE GOT EM" and then they go back to running events where 3/4 the field is dirty. If you're going to go all out on doping, get everyone, not just your all-star.
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They pretty much got every other major contender from that era already. Not to mention that it's unquestionably the most thoroughly checked sport right now. Most sports will be far, far dirtier than cycling is now.
 
RangersFan said:
once again disgraced public figure goes to oprah for a terrible interview where she lobs softballs to them and kid gloves it. howard stern or even a pierce morgan would have made the interview so much more compelling and would have actually gotten lance to admit it and say the actual words. oprah is just a terrible interviewer, yeah yeah she's a great person blah blah, but she can't interview people for shit.
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did you even watch it?
 
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