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[PK Gaming]

Fire /Ground is great typing? I ask because with the metagame all around water and weather right now wouldnt he just get nuked faster?

ehh, if you want to be technically yes, but being 4X weak to water is no big deal if the water moves are guaranteed to OHKO you anyway.

I didn't really consider using emboar in OU, because it's too slow to really function there. But in the lower tiers where weather is non-existent (or even better, where hail exists) a Fire / Ground Emboar would rock.

Ground does so much for fire: STAB EQ, Immunity to Electric, Grass & Ice weaks nullified by Fire, and the rock weak is nullified by ground. It gains a 4X weak to water (which doesn't really matter since most water moves ko it). Fighting is pretty cool, but it gives it more weaknesses (and Fire already has a lot of weaknesses). The Rock resist is found on both dual typings, and i have a hunch that they made emboar fire / fight to negate its SR weakness.

 

[Delio]

I don't know too much about standards, but I do play Ubers, which has a similar thing with weather (though Sun is stronger in Ubers than OU because Groudon is awesome). Fire / Ground can actually be a pretty good offensive typing provided that the Pokemon is fairly fast. While the 4x water weak sucks, STAB Earthquake means you aren't completely helpless in the rain, plus you're now neutral to Stealth Rock! Smashing Heatran and being immune to Thunder is also a nice bonus. The real problem with Fire / Ground at the moment is just that Camerupt is slow as shit, so it makes really poor use of its typing. Also because of that, I have a feeling that Emboar would have made really poor use of Fire / Ground as well. TBH, Emboar might prefer being a Fire / Steel type, yeah it'd have serious competition with Heatran, but thats better than being the worst Fire / Fighting...

I'd go for Fire/Steel before Fire/Ground. Simply because of how slow Emboar is. It may have work with someone like Infernape because of his speed but thats about it.

ehh, if you want to be technically yes, but being 4X weak to water is no big deal if the water moves are guaranteed to OHKO you anyway.

I didn't really consider using emboar in OU, because it's too slow to really function there. But in the lower tiers where weather is non-existent (or even better, where hail exists) a Fire / Ground Emboar would rock.

Ground does so much for fire: STAB EQ, Immunity to Electric, Grass & Ice weaks nullified by Fire, and the rock weak is nullified by ground. It gains a 4X weak to water (which doesn't really matter since most water moves ko it). Fighting is pretty cool, but it gives it more weaknesses (and Fire already has a lot of weaknesses).

That's what i was worried about the most. The speed wouldnt have helped Emboar at all. Then again he's no Hariyama so he cant be a good slow defensive fighting poke.

 

[Hypatia]

Also any love for this guy?

I love that thing!

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I have no idea why.

I hate Lucario the Pokemon, but I adore Lucario the Smash Brother.

It's...conflicting.

Smash Bros. is what made me like Lucario. Beforehand it was just a big pile of meeeeeeeh to me.

I'm still not sure why they chose Lucario out of all the Pokemon they could've gone with though. ¬_¬

 

[papercamm]

I love that thing!

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I have no idea why.

Smash Bros. is what made me like Lucario. Beforehand it was just a big pile of meeeeeeeh to me.

I'm still not sure why they chose Lucario out of all the Pokemon they could've gone with though. ¬_¬

Sweet succulent branding. Also, aura sphere. Come on.

 

[UltimateIke]

After the Black 2/White 2 anime trailer was when I started using Lucario. The male trainer had an Arcanine and a Lucario. So cool.

 

[Berordn]

Lucario's clearly the lovechild of focus testing and money but he's cool in-game so I can't hate it.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

You mean make him more like Heracross then? The pokemon whose name I'm pretty sure comes from Hercules, like the beetle.


Lol no.

Heracross is not an Hercules beetle, even if its name comes from him.

This guy is way too hardcore for Heracross. Only Pinsir is a bad enough dude to turn into this.

And yeah, Heracross looks like a chump. His big good ol' roundy eyes don't have anything on Pinsir's pure evil look. Heracross' mouth works in a logical manner whereas Pinsir's looks like some sort of medieval torture device. And Heracross' horn doesn't have spikes or anything, like Pinsir does.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Aliens.

Robots.

 

[Hypatia]

Lucario's clearly the lovechild of focus testing and money but he's cool in-game so I can't hate it.

I don't disagree with this.

Sweet succulent branding. Also, aura sphere. Come on.

Aura Sphere is a stupidly awesome move in Smash Bros. I still prefer using Pikachu though since I prefer faster characters.

 

[Ezalc]

Heracross is not an Hercules beetle, even if its name comes from him.

This guy is way too hardcore for Heracross. Only Pinsir is a bad enough dude to turn into this.

And yeah, Heracross looks like a chump. His big good ol' roundy eyes don't have anything on Pinsir's pure evil look. Heracross' mouth works in a logical manner whereas Pinsir's looks like some sort of medieval torture device. And Heracross' horn doesn't have spikes or anything, like Pinsir does.

Do you not see the lower horn on that thing? Seriously AM?

Also, Pinsir screams trying too hard. Especially with the spikes and shit. I agree that he needs an evo because without it he'll just always be a pathetic pokemon always hoping that maybe one day he'd be able to be as great as Heracross. When he gets an evo, maybe he'll get on Heracross's level, not really though.


EDIT: I used to think Lucario was cool because of that movie he was in, then they ruined that with Smash where he replaced Mewtwo. Fuck that shit, I don't care who you are you are not cool enough to replace Mewtwo motherfucker.

 

[Gravijah]

Lucario is cool. If you let his fandom ruin him, then you can't like any Pokemon.

Except possibly Gorebyss and Huntail. No one cares about them.

 

[hemtae]

Uh, Heracross is an infinitely greater pokemon than Pinsir will ever be. Pinsir would need 3 more evos to be even in the realm of Heracross's greatness. Hell Pinsir isn't even the best bug of the rby generation.

 

[EvilMario]

I was always a Scyther man myself.

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Although they all pale in comparison to Butterfree and Beedrill.. in my heart at least

 

[Berordn]

All hail Venomoth.

The Butterfree that wasn't.

 

[EvilMario]

All hail Venomoth.

The Butterfree that wasn't.

I raise you one Kyogre killer.

 

[Berordn]

I raise you one Kyogre killer.

[I]parasect[/I][img][/QUOTE]

So goddamned creepy.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Do you not see the lower horn on that thing? Seriously AM?
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Heracross is based on this guy, who while cool, is not "two thirds of my body are giant horns that look like a giant mouth" cool.

Uh, Heracross is an infinitely greater pokemon than Pinsir will ever be. Pinsir would need 3 more evos to be even in the realm of Heracross's greatness. Hell Pinsir isn't even the best bug of the rby generation.

This is a textbook example of some opinions being worse than others.

In the anime a bunch of Pinsir make Heracross run away from their tree. This reveals the information you could already tell merely by looking at their designs. Pinsir is a thug who will take what he wants from inferior looking Pokémon.

 

[Hypatia]

I was always a Scyther man myself.

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Although they all pale in comparison to Butterfree and Beedrill.. in my heart at least

Scyther, yes! High five!

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I think Butterfree is awesome too ¬_¬

So goddamned creepy.

and Paras is so cute too ;___;

 

[Gravijah]

No one should ever use the anime as an example for anything.

But yes, Pinsir is awesome.

 

[Theorymon]

Lucario is cool. If you let his fandom ruin him, then you can't like any Pokemon.

Except possibly Gorebyss and Huntail. No one cares about them.

Hey I care about Gorebyss now

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But only because it got Shell Smash with Baton Pass and Swift Swim, because Gorebyss sure isn't pretty. Screw Huntail though, lamest eel ever.

 

[Lucario]

After the Black 2/White 2 anime trailer was when I started using Lucario. The male trainer had an Arcanine and a Lucario. So cool.

I mean, we do have pretty good type coverage together.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

EDIT: I used to think Lucario was cool because of that movie he was in, then they ruined that with Smash where he replaced Mewtwo. Fuck that shit, I don't care who you are you are not cool enough to replace Mewtwo motherfucker.

He didn't replace Mewtwo; Sonic did. Mewtwo's data and models were actually put into the game before Lucario, but the time that would have been spent finishing Mewtwo and Roy was instead spent creating Sonic from the ground up and integrating him into Event Mode and Subspace Emissary.

So in short, you're blaming the wrong blue guy ;P

 

[Lucario]

He didn't replace Mewtwo; Sonic did. Mewtwo's data and models were actually put into the game before Lucario, but the time that would have been spent finishing Mewtwo and Roy was instead spent creating Sonic from the ground up and integrating him into Event Mode and Subspace Emissary.

So in short, you're blaming the wrong blue guy ;P

I need to tell this to the person who spammed my forum with lucario gore because mewtwo wasn't in brawl.

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He's probably still stalking my posts.

 

[Deadpandas]

Beedrill > Butterfree > Scyther > Galvantula > Heracross > Venomoth > Pinsir.

Anyone care to prove me wrong?

 

[Gravijah]

Beedrill > Butterfree > Scyther > Galvantula > Heracross > Venomoth > Pinsir.

Anyone care to prove me wrong?

Volcarona.

 

[PK Gaming]

All hail Venomoth.

The Butterfree that wasn't.

The cool thing about venomoth is that Gamefreak went out of their way to make a previously shitty bug-throway pokemon competitively viable by giving it Quiver Dance. Quiver Dance + Baton Pass is a really strong combo. It makes Veno the undisputed king of "throway" bug types.

That's what I love about gen V. So many shitty pokemon that would never see the light of day got cool & powerful abilites to make them viable.

 

[RagnarokX]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-z3kakFsDhaQ/TWI2_FzJMQI/AAAAAAAAEAU/W3n6ryauS74/s1600/Allomyrina_dichotoma_12.jpg
Heracross is based on this guy, who while cool, is not "two thirds of my body are giant horns that look like a giant mouth" cool.


This is a textbook example of some opinions being worse than others.

In the anime a bunch of Pinsir make Heracross run away from their tree. This reveals the information you could already tell merely by looking at their designs. Pinsir is a thug who will take what he wants from inferior looking Pokémon.

Heracross is a Japanese rhinoceros beetle. Japanese rhinoceros beetles and hercules beetles are both rhinoceros beetles. Pinsir is a stag beetle.

 

[ffdgh]

Volcarona.

Well that didn't take long lol.

 

[Deadpandas]

Volcarona.

one of the ugliest Pokemon ever?

 

[Aggrotek]

one of the ugliest Pokemon ever?

 

[Theorymon]

On a different note, I just realized that by the time XY comes out, miiverse will probably be on the 3DS... I bet the XY miiverse community is gonna go NUTS when it comes to fan art!

 

[Berordn]

one of the ugliest Pokemon ever?

It's okay.

Mothra will make your death swift.

 

[Deadpandas]

 

[Veitsev]

one of the ugliest Pokemon ever?

No. Thats Scraggy/Scrafty.

 

[Aggrotek]

No. Thats Scraggy/Scrafty.

Beware your impending doom.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Wut? Reuniclus gets love because of dat fat and trick room

Also Lucario is awesome. Screw you haters.

With that said I find it really offending a pokemon design is compared to sonic of all things.

 

[ffdgh]

No. Thats Scraggy/Scrafty.

Hmm I assume you mean exegcutor. or heck jynx, mr mine, exploud XD

 

[ohlawd]

No. Thats Scraggy/Scrafty.

The door is to the left of the staircase.

 

[Aggrotek]

Dunno what this is supposed to be...

 

[XaosWolf]

Archen is pretty doofy lookin':

And never like Chikorita's design:

Anyone hating on Lucario can promptly kiss all of my arse.

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He did steal Aura Sphere from Mewtwo though

 

[ScraftyDevil]

No. Thats Scraggy/Scrafty.

Leave now, for mercy shall be withdrawn within a moment.

 

[ohlawd]

And never like Chikorita's design:

How does it feel not having a heart?

Not really stealing if the move was introduced in 4th gen and everyone that can use the move can learn it. Besides, that's what Psystrike is for.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Lucario's just kind of boring for a Pokemon. He's in the same category as Arcanine, the Eevees, and now Fennekin for me...

This reminds me of a Facebook picture I saw the other day about Pokemon that showed a picture of the 1st Gen Starters and said "in my day we had Pokemon based on dinosaurs, dragons, and turtles, now we have Pokemon based on gears, ice cream, and trash, I weep for today's youth".

The funny thing is we've literally had a dinosaur/dragon/turtle Pokemon pretty much every Gen, and I'd much rather take Pokemon based off uniquer ideas.

 

[Aggrotek]

Beware your impending doom.

Leave now, for mercy shall be withdrawn within a moment.

Called it.

 

[EvilMario]

Archen is pretty doofy lookin':

And never like Chikorita's design:

Anyone hating on Lucario can promptly kiss all of my arse.

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He did steal Aura Sphere from Mewtwo though

I love both of those designs, you monster.

 

[UltimateIke]

Lucario's just kind of boring for a Pokemon. He's in the same category as Arcanine, the Eevees, and now Fennekin for me...

Canine Pokémon are my favorites. :<

 

[Grakl]

Archen is pretty doofy lookin':

Archen is hilarious. I love it.

Lucario's just kind of boring for a Pokemon. He's in the same category as Arcanine, the Eevees, and now Fennekin for me...

wrooooong

They're all in the same category of 'awesome'.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

It's really just the majestic "cool" canine (and feline/dragon) Pokemon I don't care for.

I don't mind canines like Granbull, Mightyena, Smeargle, and Manetric.

 

[Lucario]

Canine Pokémon are my favorites. :<

He's just a hater, Ike. Canines are too cool for him.

 

[injurai]

Canine Pokémon are my favorites. :<

Arcanine > Umbreon > all.