They published a lot of new IPs on the 360. Why not for the Durango?
Microsoft making at least four new IPs
- Thread starter GarthVaderUK
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FonkyByNature
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I think they just don't have the crowd that buys those kind of games.
Most Xbox gamers are ex-PC gamers or casual COD, Madden players... I know i'm generalizing the thing but it's true most of the time.
The thing that i never liked about the Xbox platform, especially the 360, is that they don't have that much variety compared to Sony. No platformers, no 3rd person type games like Infamous, no games like LBP, Heavy Rain etc.
If they show me that they care, i will be there.
Hematocryal
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Your face is a joke.
But yea I'm pretty excited to see what they'll throw at me. I've thoroughly enjoyed everything they've thrown at me. Halo wars was tolerable... Leave the novelty of mediocre experimentation where it belongs, which is the fiery pits of Hell.
Glass Rebel
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Gunpowder is a Cut the Rope level Win 8 game.
Gucci Messiah
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A platformer would be nice. Hopefully we aren't getting a bunch of new first person shooters.
UberTag
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Glad to see the Kinect bashing is still in full swing here. Keep it up, GAF.
- "They keep making the same games and not doing new IPs." ... But then it's revealed their working on significant new IPs.
- "Oh but they'll all be Kinect-based and casual in focus." ... But then it's revealed they'll be new takes on genres with hardcore appeal.
- "Oh but then we'll bitch that they're ripping off Sony. Or that we have to pay extra to play them online. Or they'll microtransact us to death with DLC like EA. Or they're misusing Rare. Or that they'll all be FPS games."
Have I got that about right?
- "They keep making the same games and not doing new IPs." ... But then it's revealed their working on significant new IPs.
- "Oh but they'll all be Kinect-based and casual in focus." ... But then it's revealed they'll be new takes on genres with hardcore appeal.
- "Oh but then we'll bitch that they're ripping off Sony. Or that we have to pay extra to play them online. Or they'll microtransact us to death with DLC like EA. Or they're misusing Rare. Or that they'll all be FPS games."
Have I got that about right?
Alan Wake, Crackdown, Ratchet & Clank: Nuts and Bolts, Kameo, Viva Pinata all say hi.
They're almost all brand new man, not just Black Tusk.
MS shuttered every developer not named Bungie, Turn 10, Rare, and Lionhead. Bungie left and they formed 343 in their wake, who've made all of one game.
Making new IPs is nice and all, but they're new IPs with ZERO track record behind the IP or the developer.
When Naught Dog makes a new IP it's worth getting hyped for because Naughty Dog has a certain level of pedigree. When Joe Blow's Game Studio makes a new game why should anyone give a shit until you show us something unique?
This will be the read gap between MS and Sony to start next generation. MS has let their first party development atrophy from an already rather weak state. At the same time Sony took an equally weak first party and built it into a powerhouse during the life of the PS3. If MS can't land a significant number of 3rd party exclusives and pull a rabbit out of the hat with new start ups striking gold with their first title Sony has an edge on what matters most - quality games.
pr0cs
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Wow, I hope you're joking. They have all of those. Really the 360 has easily as diverse lineup as the PS3, maybe more simply because they money-hatted a bunch of stuff from Japan.
block tower
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all im saying is im about to jump ship once next generation consoles launch, because Microsoft this generation has really let me down when it comes to exclusives. and now hearing that Playstation 4's architecture will make it easier for third parties to develop for, it's safe to assume third party title wont suck on Playstation's next generation console. Microsoft really has a lot to prove to me in terms of exclusives and the direcion of the console becuase im looking for good games. and still to this date one of my favorite titles is a Sony exclusive Shadow of the Colossus, and the closest Microsoft has came in the past two generations has been Bioware's Jade Empire. So Microsoft needs to really wow me or im switching to Sony.
statham
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Ol No Bones
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Haha I understand the cynicism for sure but damn 4 new ip at once is excellent. If you were paying attention the past few years Microsoft upped its first party studio count by 6 I think. This might be ms fixing there lack of first party games over the past few years. Don't forget how great the 360 was from 2005 to 2009 or 10. The playstation 3 was terrible for about 3 years IMO
Which is what I'm talking about. Why not make a sequel? It was a successful game. Unless 2 million is somehow awful sales numbers, why not make another?
because unlike that garbage known as Fable 3, it didn't sell 4 million.
What else would you expect on a video game forum almost exclusively frequented by long time core gamers?
The only way Kinect bashing would stop here is if MS finds a real core game use for the technology. That is why the Wii's motion controllers got shit on here too, they never delivered a legitimate reason for core gamers to give a shit.
Sony is the only one who's tried to bridge the gap, making some very solid control implementations for Move in FPS games. Even then it's only enough to reduce the bile directed towards it slightly.
Same thing is happening to the Wii U now as well. Nintendo hasn't shown why core gamers should give a shit about a second low fi touch screen on their controllers. The longer that goes on the more people will take shots at it.
Marlowe Briggs: Action game featuring a hard boiled detective/noir/pulp style story set against the backdrop of a "retro-futuristic" looking city.
Uses Kinect functionality to scan crime scenes or something, i dunno....
Wow. You're about 8 years late on this post.
Socom is dead. I love the game and still play it even though Confrontation and 4 are mediocre.
Sony killed it. Microsoft doesn't need to waste money on trying to do what Sony did for them.
I'm dead serious.
Yes I know, which is why I'm counting on MS to resurrect this genre and fill that void I've been craving since the start of this gen.
statham
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Socom is dead.
I'm dead serious.
I'm not defending Microsoft I completely agree as I would love another Halo Wars I'm just saying they made the decision before hand and there is no reason to think they would've changed their minds about it.
LukasTaves
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I remember seeing rumors about a kinect enabled Halo Wars, maybe it was put on hold for durango's increased accuracy?
Baconsammy
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I'm dead serious.
Sony needs a Socom game to not suck first before Microsoft needs to start thinking about copying it.
UberTag
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It's been hammered to death into people's skulls that Microsoft only stopped with offering a diversified IP lineup at retail because they didn't need to in Years 6-8 because the dividing lines had already been set and they were riding Kinect momentum at that point. They already HAD the hardcore market locked down. They didn't need to blow a bunch of money on a bunch of new IPs that were then failed to be marketed properly like Sony. It was a conscious decision.
That doesn't mean they're incapable of developing new IPs. Goodness knows they continued to line up a bevy of exclusive and creative titles catering to new genres over Xbox LIVE Arcade (Fez, Trials, Minecraft, Mark of the Ninja, etc.). It simply wasn't a priority AT RETAIL and their sales figures back that up.
A new platform represents an opportunity for market expansion so naturally new IPs are going to be developed.
This shouldn't be a grand revelation to people... how daft are you really?
That doesn't mean they're incapable of developing new IPs. Goodness knows they continued to line up a bevy of exclusive and creative titles catering to new genres over Xbox LIVE Arcade (Fez, Trials, Minecraft, Mark of the Ninja, etc.). It simply wasn't a priority AT RETAIL and their sales figures back that up.
A new platform represents an opportunity for market expansion so naturally new IPs are going to be developed.
This shouldn't be a grand revelation to people... how daft are you really?
You mean that promising new IP that MS hedged on giving a sequel to for so long that Realtime Worlds moved on to another project (and subsequently closing), resulting in a different studio making the mediocre sequel and effectively killing the franchise?
Hell of a way to handle the start of a franchise huh?
Hematocryal
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Microsoft is known for its quality in regards to shooters. Your favorite game is a VERY Japanese game made by a Japanese team. Buy a PS3 and get your Japanese-esque RPG on or a Nintendo. I don't care for platforming or childish happy go lucky stuff, and while I'm sure Mario is good, why would I buy a Nintendo just to wonder where all the mature first person shooters are? Lol it's counter productive.
That said a limbo kind of platformer I'd be first in line to buy, or some other first party stuff. I trust Microsoft.
Clay Davis
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not to backseat mod, but the level of base trolling in almost every micrsoft thread makes it very hard to have a normal and fruitful discussion.
it's always kinect this, ads that, gold this, casuals that. it's tiring.
it's always kinect this, ads that, gold this, casuals that. it's tiring.
Well blame Microsoft for that.
PopcornMegaphone
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The same studio made Crackdown 2.
That said, Crackdown 2 deserved a larger budget and more time. Most disappointing game this gen.
Baconsammy
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Microsoft makes trolls now?
I do agree about the actual ads on the marketplace though. That's crossing a line. Content ads are more than welcome to me though. Anything is better than PSN's store. I look forward to seeing what Sony do next gen, because current gen just aint working.
Bu...bu...bu... XBLA doesnt count because they arent big budget games doomed to fail like PS All Stars.
But yeah this post pretty much nails it.
Why do that when i can blame trolls and console warriors?
Gametrailers forums level shit really.
"But it's ok to troll, because they don't care about the core gamer."
What kind of garbage reasoning is that, seriously. That is some bottom of the barrel shit.
This is said in every one of these topics but for some reason people just ignore it.
pr0cs
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The statement was that those type of games didn't exist on the 360 which clearly is incorrect.
The fact that Ruffian made the sequel worse is sort of irrelevant if we're doing list wars.
I would say the franchise is far from 'destroyed' based off a lackluster sequel.
well no, some of the same developers but not the same studio, and it showed.
Trolls will exist no matter what but the number of people unhappy is a result of their decisions. Would these threads be filled with the posts people are whining about if MS didn't charge for online, put ads on a pay service or focus on kinect stuff? Nope.
Either they're right... Or they will be eating a healthy serving of crow come E3.
It happened on multiple occasions already.
It's console warrior season, let it be.
statham
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Thats the one, fun game. Wonder what the company that made crackdown 2 is working on.
UberTag
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Actually no... blame the self-defense mechanism of Sony enthusiasts for that.
Sony enthusiasts who should be spending their time buying and supporting the great Vita handheld instead of drilling "Kinect, casual, ads, charging for XBL" into the minds of people at GAF who have largely already made up their minds on each subject.
Sadly, this is true. They blew it this gen.
bigboss370
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thats cool and all, but Sony's got 3-4 new IPs this year alone. they need to step it up even more 
PopcornMegaphone
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thats cool and all, but Sony's got 3-4 new IPs this year alone. they need to step it up even more
3-4 new IPs in one month? Impressive.
I most likely won't waste my money on an MS system ever again but a SOCOM-like game might just make me do that. too bad it'll never happen. I'm talking about no regen health, gameplay that requires you to have some accuracy. The old Socom formula (PS2 era)
I'm dead serious.
Yes I know, which is why I'm counting on MS to resurrect this genre and fill that void I've been craving since the start of this gen.
Also I don't know if you've heard of it but there's this game H-Hour being developed by SoF studios. There isn't much info on it other than I think a few of the guys were part of the Socom 1 and 2 teams.
What else do you want us to talk about? They're amazing new IPs that graced the 360?
Unless we make stuff up there's not much to talk about regarding Microsoft.
Uno Venova
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You can't expect that to matter much to the people dissatisfied, explanation or not, they are still not getting much variety/diversity at retail, and that's the final point that upsets most.
yikes.
Winterfang
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thats cool and all, but Sony's got 3-4 new IPs this year alone. they need to step it up even more
They did?