Pachter -PS4 will feature "hyperrealistic games" and "render games at 240fps"
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Neuromancer
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I'm looking forwards to his GAF show, should be good.
But they're limited to 60fps output.
BattleMonkey
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Person makes dumb comment, gaf reacts, "omg why so negative"
I didn't read the context of that statement and at face value it is indeed absurd. But I can see that it would be difficult to use a simple metric to the question: "how much powerful the PS4 should be compared to the PS3?". The most sensible way to answer would be that there's no simple answer to that simple question, and that the quality of effects/lightning, and the increase in image quality/texture resolution will certainly be rather noticeable but difficult to quantify depending on the game and developer choices. But if pressed to give an answer teraflops wouldn't be the metrics that would be immediately recognizable by the public.
Kill Your Masters
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30fps * 8 cores, makes perfect sense.
By design. But the power is there.
Wishmaster92
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Patcher i suggest you patch that nasty glitch in your system, seriously 240fps?
jim-jam bongs
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Vitriol is a stretch. If we're broadly characterising GAF in one way or another I would call the tone one of unwavering scepticism, which, given the tone of petulant adulation from most of the gaming community, actually seems quite healthy.
But Gaf is my Ying to the nicey-nice gaming press Yang, there has to be a balance. To be fair I have found Derrick01 to be able to give a far better constructive opinion than the vast majority of gaming journalists.
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Maybe we are a bunch of assholes.
It's clear he's talking about consoles, and on steam counter strike and tf2 are right up there with dota.AND he did say "games with clear balance" which I'm pretty sure dota falls in to. I dunno.
Gemüsepizza
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But I guess that was his point. That they would be so powerful that they could display current gen games with 240fps. They obviously won't, but they are that powerful.
By the way... Using DMC as a benchmark for running 200fps and PC power is a joke.
UE3 is dated and scales well.
The same monster PC running DMC in 1080p & above in 200fps would have trouble running Zone of Enders 2 in 200fps in 1080p.
Depends on the game.
It's a blanket statement that also depends on the game. A fillrate intensive game like Bayonetta might make a majority of PCs cry if you try to hit 1080p & 200fps.
UE3 is dated and scales well.
The same monster PC running DMC in 1080p & above in 200fps would have trouble running Zone of Enders 2 in 200fps in 1080p.
Depends on the game.
Gemüsepizza;47252442 said:
It's a blanket statement that also depends on the game. A fillrate intensive game like Bayonetta might make a majority of PCs cry if you try to hit 1080p & 200fps.
Ummm super stardust can be rendered at 120hz. It is the only example I got.
There is one game on the xbox 360 that ran at 120hz but I don't remember.
QisTopTier
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It's an Internet forum comprised of thousands of people with varying opinions.
phosphor112
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Please do an episode of that.
Anyway. Power wise, they WOULD be able to do 240fps. It wouldn't be too hard... BUT... I don't think HDMI standard supports anything that high.
What he said.
Anyway. Power wise, they WOULD be able to do 240fps. It wouldn't be too hard... BUT... I don't think HDMI standard supports anything that high.
What he said.
Chû Totoro
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I need more eyes. I'm really hoping next gen Playstation Eye won't be too expensive 
michaelpachter
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I think so. Maybe with the 2.0 standard.
michaelpachter
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Gemüsepizza;47252132 said:
It's nice to see that ONE GAFfer understood precisely what I was trying to say. Thank you for the post, I wish I were as articulate.
I suspect if we activate the next gen bullshit translator the sentance would go something like this.
PS4 is going to Support HDMI 2.0 which has the bandwidth to output 1080p at 240FPS!
At some point we will hear it the other way.. 4k@60hz
Outtrigger888
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Patcher works for MS, right?
Ps4 is suppose to be more powerful then the nextbox, right?
So isn't obvious he's over-hyping it so it'll be a let down to any fool that takes this at face value?
Is MS scared of Nintendo and Sony?
Ps4 is suppose to be more powerful then the nextbox, right?
So isn't obvious he's over-hyping it so it'll be a let down to any fool that takes this at face value?
Is MS scared of Nintendo and Sony?
FUSE, 5 Million, explain. We're still waiting!
Delusibeta
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Well, so that means 720p @ 30FPS is confirmed as the target for the majority of games for next generation consoles. Good to know.
Now that you're here, enlighten us and explain what you tried to say with the FUSE, Destiny and Respawn sales prediction. I found it to be amusing, to say the least.
Throwaway123456789
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I must say I love the way you filter through all the critical voices and pick out the one lone supporter to defend your case.
It's been said over and over again why your laughable 240 frames theory is a hilariously wrong way of showing the power increase of the PS4. Why don't you answer some of it?
I think he gets that you know.
legacyzero
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That's what's scary LMFAO
SapientWolf
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I still think that's wrong unless the game in question is Quake 3.Gemüsepizza;47252132 said:
or the PSN store.
CambriaRising
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In fraps, all of my logo screens and main menus render at 4000fps+
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SHIFT?
Oh, no. I sense name jokes are inbound.
Oh, no. I sense name jokes are inbound.
SHIT
Neuromancer
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SWEET
Time to get the popcorn! This gon b gud.
Uncle Rupee
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Pachter, the reason GAF hates you is because you talk out of your ass like so many people on here do but you get paid to do it as if your opinion is somehow worth more than that of a random internet forum member. Like so many economists your analyst predictions are worth jack squat yet somehow you still have a job when people with more skill in their pinky fingers are out of work.
I am not a computer engineer but I am pretty sure that such gains are not linear. 4x CPU does not automatically mean running the same material at 4x framerate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
Should definitely feature the man who hates everything.
Gemüsepizza
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There was a thread recently about DMC being over 200fps on PC. And yes, some games won't do that, that's why I said "maybe not the best example". But it was just that, an example to illustrate that they will be more powerful. Not a scientific statement about graphics technology.
That game flies on a Macbook Air. Quake 4 however.......
grosvenor_92
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Why do people let this guy talk it's just a bunch a bs. We'll never see 240 fps on any console at least not net gen anyway