Pachter -PS4 will feature "hyperrealistic games" and "render games at 240fps"

Terrell

Member
GAF usually reacts if I comment on technical specifications, charging more money for anything, or make any comment that has the word "Nintendo" in it. To answer your question, I always presume that if I talk about any of these topics, GAF will go ballistic.

Base your opinions on those topics in anything remotely close to reality and people wouldn't go ballistic. It's not the topics themselves, man.
 

pelican

Member
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Let me guess. GAF mudslinging. I doubt the intention of this program will be to celebrate the passion for our hobby, and industry which come from this community.

edit: A show focusing on this site, to me, seems slightly OTT. As with every large communities there are pros and cons present.
 

AlterOdin

Member
Can someone please photoshop pachter's face on the little boy on the right?
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Ot: there aren't even any displays right now that can display 240 fps, 95 percent of tvs (yes including those so called 100 hz tvs) will only accept 60 fps input, 3d tvs accept and display 120 fps. 90 percent of computer monitors only operate at 60hz.

Also fps on its own is a meaningless metric, so his statement was meaningless as well.


And lastly, no pachter, Gaf isn't predominantly smart (just look at any hardware or xbox vs ps3 thread) , you don't have to lick our balls in an attempt to avoid internet rage directed at you. It's as unbecoming as it is insincere.

Not the best shop:

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pelican

Member
Maybe you should stop making stupid predictions. Fuse will never sell 5 million copies and you said it would, for example.

MP doesn't require anyone to defend him, but part of the course of making market predictions is getting things wrong. He isn't some form of sooth sayer with a crystal ball.

I am far from being expert on how he does his job, but I would imagine that it involves previous/current market trends, industry knowledge, various numbers and cold hard math.

I know Michael gets things wrong, but treat the guy with some respect. He isn't some 12 year old internet troll.
 

Mlatador

Banned
The guy does that on purpose! He must be some sort of marketer. But what does he promote? Wedbush Securities?

EDIT: Ah, I see, he's promoting the upcoing game trailers show "Shift". I wonder how much he gets.
 

marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
I could be wrong, but Michael Pachter looks like someone who is a fraud, knows it, and makes lots of noise to hide it.
The attention he gets probably secures his current or future job though.
 
MP doesn't require anyone to defend him, but part of the course of making market predictions is getting things wrong. He isn't some form of sooth sayer with a crystal ball.

I am far from being expert on how he does his job, but I would imagine that it involves previous/current market trends, industry knowledge, various numbers and cold hard math.

I know Michael gets things wrong, but treat the guy with some respect. He isn't some 12 year old internet troll.

I imagine that part of the reason everyone hates him is because he makes predictions that are consistently wrong, still manages to be one of the most "respected" analysists out there, and then use that respect to act like a dick and make inflammatory comments.
 
I imagine that part of the reason everyone hates him is because he makes predictions that are consistently wrong, still manages to be one of the most "respected" analysists out there, and then use that respect to act like a dick and make inflammatory comments.

Dingdingding.

Someone should make a Michael Pachter Database of Predictions (TM).
 

Taurus

Member
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Pachter, you are the worst analyst ever. Also, in your position you should try to be objective to be taken seriously but your shit has gotten batshit insane and ridiculous lately. No offence, but I don't understand how you can keep your job while 95% of your predictions are wrong.
 

Skyzard

Banned
I have no real clue but can anyone myth bust this - Maybe for Sony 4K screens?

(3840*2160)/(1920*1080) = 4 times more pixels - if the chip can basically split the pixels into like 4 compartments somehow...240/4 = 60fps.. [ he did mention games though... and I doubt this would work for gaming ].

Otherwise...maybe for some sort of special 3D?

Although "capable of rendering games at 240fps" just seems deceitful. He ought to know no one expects games that fast but I wonder if there is a special reason he's referring to that number.. I would hope it's not a silly reason.
 
DmC does not look like a PS2 game. DmC runs at over 200 fps on a modest modern PC.

I find it totally feasible that the new hardware could run current gen IQ at 240fps. I wouldn't doubt if if some source told him this was the case.

a high end pc can run dmc at 200fps or more with unreal engine which is very well optimized for pc, not so much on consoles with that texture streaming, 30 fps and 720p. a true next gen game wont be able to do it, maybe an HD remake, that would make sense but not a real next gen title, considering pc's cant run crysis 3 o even 2 at 200 fps unless you got a massive quad sli or something.
 

Ushae

Banned
Pachter is on fire these days hahaha!

Seriously some games like Arcade may be able to manage really high FPS, but we'll be confined to 30 or 60(with amazing coding) FPS for our games.
 
a high end pc can run dmc at 200fps or more with unreal engine which is very well optimized for pc, not so much on consoles with that texture streaming, 30 fps and 720p. a true next gen game wont be able to do it, maybe an HD remake, that would make sense but not a real next gen title, considering pc's cant run crysis 3 o even 2 at 200 fps unless you got a massive quad sli or something.

Excuse me? I am pretty sure a PC can run Crysis 3 with console-grade levels of detail and -resolution at 240fps.
 

P90

Member
Going by Pachter's opinions, I will own a "hyper-realistic" console and a "got it wrong" console. I guess I make out even? Ah, Pachter.
 

Azure J

Member
I feel like the exact same thing was said at least once about the PS3. (Re: Thread Title)

I'm just as excited as everyone else regarding PS4, but damn son, slow yo' roll.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
240FPS is such a stupid prediction, I refuse to believe he said this.

We could technically see 120fps for 3D games no? But what's even the point of 240?

Maybe it isn't all that stupid a suggestion at all (even if it was made only illustratively and without knowing much about visual perception).

There's at least one potential application for 240FPS: consider four-person local multiplayer - given suitable glasses you could have four people playing the same game on the same screen in the same room and each seeing different things on the single screen and each at 60 FPS.

Like split-screen except without being able to see what the other guys are up to.

Some great potential in that.
 
240fps? Baahahhahaha.

Pachter obviously has zero idea of what he's talking about. I should give him a lesson in graphics rendering, and I'm a layman regarding that..
 
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