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[Psycho_Mantis]

I don't want to point out your tastes, but you seem a bit biased against 3DS, in my opinion.

Ummmm what?


If you liked BbS, there's no way you couldn't find at least enjoyable 3D.

BBS was the first and last handheld KH game I will play regardless on what system in comes out on. I am waiting for KH3 not some spin off. Also from what my friends and form what I have seen KH BBS>>>KH 3D


The combat system is much better;

No. BBS looked much faster and Command Boards> Touch Commands.

story-wise is less packed but still interesting overall for a fan;

Story was the anime equivalent of filler. All Kh spin off stories have been "filler" that the creators say is canon so people will buy it. BBS at least had new interesting characters which were vital party to the story. Think of it like this. If I went to KH3, having played KH1, KH 2 and KH BBS I would still understand the majority of it. Also I could just read up on the story (probably give myself a headache in the process). KH HD collection further justifies my lack of purchasing 3D.

in general, it's a high-value production and one of the best jRPGs on 3DS.

Key phrase: one of the best jrpgs on 3DS. Not particularly hard to be especially when one has the name KH.

Also, Dragon's Crown is not a jRPG.

Oh I see. Well it is an Atlus title I am interested in


Anyway, what you're saying is "I liked PSP, but I don't like a platform that in general is continuing to have similar titles to PSP". Well, fair enough.

I have listed the PSP titles I was interested in. So far there has only been one equivalent on the 3DS and one on the Vita. 3DS is not having similar titles to the PSP at all.

It seems you have trouble grasping the idea that some may not see the 3DS library as being all that great at this moment in time.

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[serplux]

Unless Pokemon sells milions of consoles and pushes 3DS up YOY over 2012 then 70-80 milions of PSP-GBA sales will be best case scenario.

And this year they probably won't have new model to save them like XL did in 2012.

When has Pokemon ever not moved millions of consoles? Plus you're forgetting Animal Crossing, and all of the steady release schedule we have this year.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

this thread is completely garbaged now.

so yes.

While I aggressively disagree with the idea, we could at least spot the staunch fanboy supporters like there's in this thread It would be good for that at least.

 

[SmokyDave]

Something can sell decently but still underperform to expectation. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Kind of like VITA's number this week in Japan.

Do we know what Sony expected for this week, or are we going off the expectations of forum posters?

EDIT:

And I'm not sure when it became less than decent to sell 20 million in 2 years outside Japan.

When the forecast was higher. We can either say that sales fell below the manufacturers expectation (not decent), met the manufacturers expectations (decent) or exceeded the manufacturers expectations (excellent). Neither 3DS nor Vita have met the manufacturers expectations, much less exceeded them. The raw numbers don't lie.

Edit: though I'm still not sure what this has to do with the momentary spike in Japanese Vita sales.

 

[Soriku]

The combat system is much better;

No. BBS looked much faster and Command Boards> Touch Commands.

story-wise is less packed but still interesting overall for a fan;

Story was the anime equivalent of filler. All Kh spin off stories have been "filler" that the creators say is canon so people will buy it. BBS at least had new interesting characters which were vital party to the story. Think of it like this. If I went to KH3, having played KH1, KH 2 and KH BBS I would still understand the majority of it. Also I could just read up on the story (probably give myself a headache in the process). KH HD collection further justifies my lack of purchasing 3D.

Umm...you might want to have an idea of what you're talking about before speaking. KH 3D uses the same battle system as BBS. Actually, even better thanks to Flowmotion. The "touch commands" in the game are for the Reality Shifts and you hardly even have to use them. But don't let that detract you from dismissing the game!

KH 3D's story isn't filler either. The game is basically KH3: Part 1. The essential games to play are KH1, KH2, BBS, and 3D.

 

[electroplankton]

KH 3D is not a spin-off; story is a follow-up of KH2, and protagonists are the same; it also has many new worlds, that don't feel like corridors as those in BbS. It doesn't rely so much on touch commands (actually, you can finish the game without using them if not in very specific situations). The novelty in KH 3D is the flowmotion, which is totally gorgeous. As for Atlus, well, its main production is on 3DS, and anyway Dragon's Crown is not an Atlus game, but a Vanillaware ones (not particularly known for interesting action games outside the beautiful visual aspect). Anyway, I'm done here, if you want to reply, do as a private messages; I just wanted to reply here because you wrote some factually wrong things.

 

[clay_ghost]

Umm...you might want to have an idea of what you're talking about before speaking. KH 3D uses the same battle system as BBS. Actually, even better thanks to Flowmotion. The "touch commands" in the game are for the Reality Shifts and you hardly even have to use them.

KH 3D's story isn't filler either. The game is basically KH3: Part 1. The essential games to play are KH1, KH2, BBS, and 3D.

KH 3D is faster too thanks to flow motion, too fast for some but i think its better than BBS in combat. BBS have better story and worlds (imo) but KH 3D is as important as BBS.

Oh KH 3d have fantasia world, one of the best world in KH series.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

KH3D is definately a main title but it also is the worst one of em. Such a dissapointment after BBS .

 

[Wynnebeck]

When has Pokemon ever not moved millions of consoles? Plus you're forgetting Animal Crossing, and all of the steady release schedule we have this year.

Are you asking about Japan specifically or worldwide because I don't think Black and White 2 really did much outside of Japan. As for these steady releases, we have no idea how the general public is going to react, not even in Japan. Hell, DDD was supposed to be a major 3rd party exclusive in Japan and that tanked. Now granted, MH4 and the rest of the Nintendo line up will do great numbers but acting as if everything that will come out on the 3DS will be gold isn't rational.

 

[clay_ghost]

KH3D is definately a main title but it also is the worst one of em. Such a dissapointment after BBS .

The game was rushed

The huge worlds are great ( each bigger than even the ps2 worlds) but the story is really really rushed, most plots are in the last 2 hours.......

The flow motion need more work but the core of it is really good

Do not like feeding the pets(forget what its called ) but having a party like the ps2 games its great , i missed that a lot. Too bad the Disney character does not join you in battle.......

 

[Principate]

Do we know what Sony expected for this week, or are we going off the expectations of forum posters?


When the forecast was higher. We can either say that sales fell below the manufacturers expectation (not decent), met the manufacturers expectations (decent) or exceeded the manufacturers expectations (excellent). Neither 3DS nor VitIa have met the manufacturers expectations, much less exceeded them. The raw numbers don't lie.

Edit: though I'm still not sure what this has to do with the momentary spike in Japanese Vita sales.

TBF this is an extremely arbitary argument, if I expect my product to sell 50000 units and it sells one it is in now way comparable to someone else expecting to sell 50 million and selling 46 million.

One of these can take advantage of economies of scale the other cannot. This makes the Vita situation an even worse situation compared to the 3DS than even the ridicuclous sales difference would suggest. Vita is in a worse case scenario for Sony, 3DS is in a not best case scenario but still good. You cannot not remotely paint the two situations as similar. I'm actually struggling to think of a worse scenario than the Vita has ended up on.

 

[ArtHands]

Do we know what Sony expected for this week, or are we going off the expectations of forum posters?


When the forecast was higher. We can either say that sales fell below the manufacturers expectation (not decent), met the manufacturers expectations (decent) or exceeded the manufacturers expectations (excellent). Neither 3DS nor Vita have met the manufacturers expectations, much less exceeded them. The raw numbers don't lie.

Edit: though I'm still not sure what this has to do with the momentary spike in Japanese Vita sales.

Sony isn't going to reveal any sales figure nor their expectation outright (outside of official reports), because they want to keep throwing that "its within our expectation" card whenever someone ask for their opinion on vita's sales.

 

[Laguna]

It's not silly to lump them together, because as "big youth" above pointed out, the entire market has shrunk. If the 3DS is doing fine selling less than it should be, the Vita selling 4 million units in 12 months might not be the end of the world either. The thread is about the Vita after all, and there is clearly some life left in it based on recent sales.

I disagree because it´s silly to ignore the huge difference between a 4m and a 30m userbase. Also we know what system sellers will be released this year.

Talking about Japan. Here a comparison between PSV year to dates sales from 2012 and 2013

2013 163.582
2012 160.035

So it needed the big price-drop and releases like Phantasy Star Online 2 and Senran Kagura, to even keep up with last years sales.

 

[shinra-bansho]

I wonder if COD Vita will see some sort of sequel. I wouldn't be surprised if it made a reasonable return, considering how little they seemed to invest in it.

It would have to sell less than 4 milions annualy for next 4 years to not reach 20 milions...

It's only sold about 3.6M globally so far, I don't know why you think it would sell more than 4 million annually for the next 4 years.

 

[big youth]

unless i am seeing games like dragonquest .SMT uncharted and SS priced on an ios/ android/smartphone at 0.99$ i don't see myself ever making it my main handheld system especially since it won't have any buttons .

Understandable. 3DS and Vita shit all over iOS games, but when I'm out and about killing time I always have my phone on me, and never my 3DS. even when I have my 3DS on me, for example on a 3-4 hour flight, I opt to just play various iphone games and apps. convenience + price wins out for myself and many others.

 

[michaelius]

Are you asking about Japan specifically or worldwide because I don't think Black and White 2 really did much outside of Japan. As for these steady releases, we have no idea how the general public is going to react, not even in Japan. Hell, DDD was supposed to be a major 3rd party exclusive in Japan and that tanked. Now granted, MH4 and the rest of the Nintendo line up will do great numbers but acting as if everything that will come out on the 3DS will be gold isn't rational.

They have Japan on lock anyway - it's NA and PAL where they should be worried

I wonder if COD Vita will see some sort of sequel. I wouldn't be surprised if it made a reasonable return, considering how little they seemed to invest in it.
It's only sold about 3.6M globally so far, I don't know why you think it would sell more than 4 million annually for the next 4 years.

Nintendo numbers for Europe are incomplete and don't include smaller Eastern European countries as well as Asia and Africa.

 

[Wynnebeck]

They have Japan on lock anyway - it's NA and PAL where they should be worried

Which is why I find Laguna's and serplux's constant mentioning of system sellers and userbases perplexing. Would anyone be able to whip up a list of the Top 5 "system sellers" for 3DS with sales for JP vs US?

 

[MarkusRJR]

Understandable. 3DS and Vita shit all over iOS games, but when I'm out and about killing time I always have my phone on me, and never my 3DS. even when I have my 3DS on me, for example on a 3-4 hour flight, I opt to just play various iphone games and apps. convenience + price wins out for myself and many others.

Yeah the problem is that handheld consoles have become literally portable consoles. Those quick pick up and play games that used to be on the Game Boy/DS are also on phones now which people carry anyways. Why bring your 3DS/Vita with you if you already have the quick pick up and play games always with you anyway? I only ever bring my 3DS/Vita with me if I'm going to school (I had a random 2 hour break between classes last year), going on a trip, or going to a friend's house to play some games. Otherwise I'll just game on my phone. Most of my handheld gaming time is done in my home where I can just chill on the bed or couch.

 

[Artemisia]

Those consoles sold that much with about a 30% market share, not 90%.

What about smartphones and tablets? That has to make some sort of impact on how much the 3DS sells.

 

[DaBoss]

Are you asking about Japan specifically or worldwide because I don't think Black and White 2 really did much outside of Japan. As for these steady releases, we have no idea how the general public is going to react, not even in Japan. Hell, DDD was supposed to be a major 3rd party exclusive in Japan and that tanked. Now granted, MH4 and the rest of the Nintendo line up will do great numbers but acting as if everything that will come out on the 3DS will be gold isn't rational.

Not true. Sold 7.63 million worldwide. Which is more than any 3rd version Pokemon game. Pokemon is pretty huge.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Not true. Sold 7.63 million worldwide. Which is more than any 3rd version Pokemon game. Pokemon is pretty huge.

Source? I just want to see the numbers for my own data.

 

[DaBoss]

Source? I just want to see the numbers for my own data.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130131e.pdf

Page 7.

 

[saichi]

When the forecast was higher. We can either say that sales fell below the manufacturers expectation (not decent), met the manufacturers expectations (decent) or exceeded the manufacturers expectations (excellent). Neither 3DS nor Vita have met the manufacturers expectations, much less exceeded them. The raw numbers don't lie.

>> Something can sell decently but still underperform to expectation. The two are not mutually exclusive.

EDIT:

I know, but the point is that the most reliable metric for 'decent' is surely set by the manufacturers themselves. Shareholders don't ignore the official forecast in favour of what people in the Media Create thread expected.

So Shareholder would say it doesn't sell "decently" because it doesn't meet forecast? If it fails to meet forecast, shareholders would see it as "fail to meet expectation". It wouldn't automatically be selling "not decent". It has nothing to do with people in MC thread.

A company is expecting to make 100 million profit for the year but it only make 98 millions at the end. Shareholders could think the profit is decent but too bad it failed to meet expectation. Why does it have to be mutually exclusive?

 

[serplux]

Are you asking about Japan specifically or worldwide because I don't think Black and White 2 really did much outside of Japan. As for these steady releases, we have no idea how the general public is going to react, not even in Japan. Hell, DDD was supposed to be a major 3rd party exclusive in Japan and that tanked. Now granted, MH4 and the rest of the Nintendo line up will do great numbers but acting as if everything that will come out on the 3DS will be gold isn't rational.

Dude, Mario Tennis Open sold over a million. And quite a few of the games coming this year are bigger than that. Animal Crossing and Pokemon are two multi-million sellers in the US alone.

 

[SmokyDave]

TBF this is an extremely arbitary argument, if I expect my product to sell 50000 units and it sells one it is in now way comparable to someone else expecting to sell 50 million and selling 46 million.

One of these can take advantage of economies of scale the other cannot. This makes the Vita situation an even worse situation compared to the 3DS than even the ridicuclous sales difference would suggest. Vita is in a worse case scenario for Sony, 3DS is in a not best case scenario but still good. You cannot not remotely paint the two situations as similar. I'm actually struggling to think of a worse scenario than the Vita has ended up on.

I know, but the point is that the most reliable metric for 'decent' is surely set by the manufacturers themselves. Shareholders don't ignore the official forecast in favour of what people in the Media Create thread expected.

Having said that, it's completely irrelevant anyway. The 3DS could be shifting a million units per week and it still wouldn't be relevant to this topic. The relevant questions are whether or not this spike can be maintained and if it will have any effect on the long term prospects for the device in question.

What about smartphones and tablets? That has to make some sort of impact on how much the 3DS sells.

It certainly does, though a couple of years back the suggestion was laughable. Funny to see people slowly accept that mobile gaming is legit.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Lol I wonder why every vita thread ends up turning into shit?

I wonder if COD Vita will see some sort of sequel. I wouldn't be surprised if it made a reasonable return, considering how little they seemed to invest in it.

It's the best selling vita game so far(probably like 750k-800k sold if not more) and they spent almost nothing on it. I'm not sure if it'll be a unique title though, it'll probably be a port this time. Would be interesting to see vita CoD outsell WiiU CoD again.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Dude, Mario Tennis Open sold over a million. And quite a few of the games coming this year are bigger than that. Animal Crossing and Pokemon are two multi-million sellers in the US alone.

Pokemon yes. Animal Crossing? It will do decent numbers but it's not going to sell gangbusters like it did in Japan.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Nintendo numbers for Europe are incomplete and don't include smaller Eastern European countries as well as Asia and Africa.

Those countries didn't buy half a million Vitas. :/

It's not going to sell 4M a year for the next 4 years. It may not even last that long.

 

[DaBoss]

I wonder if COD Vita will see some sort of sequel. I wouldn't be surprised if it made a reasonable return, considering how little they seemed to invest in it.

Sony would have to bankroll it like how they did with Declassified.

 

[serplux]

Pokemon yes. Animal Crossing? It will do decent numbers but it's not going to sell gangbusters like it did in Japan.

Every Animal Crossing dating back to the Gamecube has sold more in the West than in Japan.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Sony would have to bankroll it like how they did with Declassified.

Will Nintendo have to bankroll the CoD that's coming out this year? Vita CoD outsold WiiU CoD irc.

 

[electroplankton]

Pokemon yes. Animal Crossing? It will do decent numbers but it's not going to sell gangbusters like it did in Japan.

Even in Japan people didn't expect it would have sold so much, neither Nintendo that wanted to ship only 200k units in the first week.

 

[clay_ghost]

Sony would have to bankroll it like how they did with Declassified.

Not really, considering that they almost make pure profit last time, they can just use the profit to make another game.

If they want to, since anyone who played the 1st will know how bare bone is it, not sure a sequel will sells as much as the 1st.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Every Animal Crossing dating back to the Gamecube has sold more in the West than in Japan.

I understand where you are getting at but especially in these volatile times, I wouldn't look at previous release and automatically assume it's going to be the same. I'm adopting a wait and see approach with many titles sales wise.

 

[Chaos Theory]

my friend is going to sell me his Vita for like 180$ with both Wipeout and Metal Gear Solid collection and 16 Gig memory card

the system it self is almost brand new, there is a tiny dot of scratch at the lower corner of the screen " just a dot " not a line of scratch. and he had put 2 stricker protectors "screen and the whole system fron the top " on top of the thing and the back.

the screen it self have this ... blotches i think is called? when the screen is black and you are in a dark room. not sure if thats normal and thats why i am asking this.

should i buy the system ?

there are few games i might want to play. including those 2 games i mentioned above + Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and maybe one or games down the road. to be honest the main reason i want to buy one is for the Playstation 4 connectivity.

so is it worth the purchase ? or should i wait for a price drop etc ?

PS . this one is 3G model.

 

[DaBoss]

^^^^It seems like it is a good deal.

Will Nintendo have to bankroll the CoD that's coming out this year? Vita CoD outsold WiiU CoD irc.

Maybe.

Not really, considering that they almost make pure profit last time, they can just use the profit to make another game.

If they want to, since anyone who played the 1st will know how bare bone is it, not sure a sequel will sells as much as the 1st.

It's Activision, I think they put very little effort into Declassified and would like to put little effort into it again.

 

[gkryhewy]

my friend is going to sell me his Vita for like 180$ with both Wipeout and Metal Gear Solid collection and 16 Gig memory card

the system it self is almost brand new, there is a tiny dot of scratch at the lower corner screen " just a dot " not a line of scratch. and he had put 2 stricker protectors on top of the thing and the back.

the screen it self have this ... blotches i think is called? when the screen is black and you are in a dark room. not sure if thats normal and thats why i am asking this.

should i buy the system ?

there are few games i might want to play. including those 2 games i mentioned above + Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and maybe one or games down the road. to be honest the main reason i want to buy one is for the Playstation 4 connectivity.

so is it worth the purchase ? or should i wait for a price drop etc ?

PS . this one is 3G model.

The black splotches are normal. Whether the library warrants a purchase for you is up to you. Sounds like a good deal.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

my friend is going to sell me his Vita for like 180$ with both Wipeout and Metal Gear Solid collection and 16 Gig memory card

the system it self is almost brand new, there is a tiny dot of scratch at the lower corner of the screen " just a dot " not a line of scratch. and he had put 2 stricker protectors on top of the thing and the back.

the screen it self have this ... blotches i think is called? when the screen is black and you are in a dark room. not sure if thats normal and thats why i am asking this.

should i buy the system ?

there are few games i might want to play. including those 2 games i mentioned above + Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and maybe one or games down the road. to be honest the main reason i want to buy one is for the Playstation 4 connectivity.

so is it worth the purchase ? or should i wait for a price drop etc ?

PS . this one is 3G model.

Holy shit that's a deal, buy it dude.

 

[serplux]

I understand where you are getting at but especially in these volatile times, I wouldn't look at previous release and automatically assume it's going to be the same. I'm adopting a wait and see approach with many titles sales wise.

I understand that there are quite a few casual franchises declining from the transition from the DS to the 3DS, but Animal Crossing has proven that it sells well over a million here three times on three different systems, unlike Brain Age/Nintendogs. Plus, it's not suffering from franchise fatigue like New Super Mario Bros. 2. So I fully expect it to continue as it did in previous generations.

 

[Jigolo]

my friend is going to sell me his Vita for like 180$ with both Wipeout and Metal Gear Solid collection and 16 Gig memory card

the system it self is almost brand new, there is a tiny dot of scratch at the lower corner of the screen " just a dot " not a line of scratch. and he had put 2 stricker protectors "screen and the whole system fron the top " on top of the thing and the back.

the screen it self have this ... blotches i think is called? when the screen is black and you are in a dark room. not sure if thats normal and thats why i am asking this.

should i buy the system ?

there are few games i might want to play. including those 2 games i mentioned above + Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and maybe one or games down the road. to be honest the main reason i want to buy one is for the Playstation 4 connectivity.

so is it worth the purchase ? or should i wait for a price drop etc ?

PS . this one is 3G model.

That seems like a really good deal. He's your friend, right? Unless that "dot" becomes a huge scratch, why not? The 16 GB card alone is worth $50.

Buy it.

 

[hodgy100]

my friend is going to sell me his Vita for like 180$ with both Wipeout and Metal Gear Solid collection and 16 Gig memory card

the system it self is almost brand new, there is a tiny dot of scratch at the lower corner of the screen " just a dot " not a line of scratch. and he had put 2 stricker protectors "screen and the whole system fron the top " on top of the thing and the back.

the screen it self have this ... blotches i think is called? when the screen is black and you are in a dark room. not sure if thats normal and thats why i am asking this.

should i buy the system ?

there are few games i might want to play. including those 2 games i mentioned above + Soul Sacrifice, Killzone and maybe one or games down the road. to be honest the main reason i want to buy one is for the Playstation 4 connectivity.

so is it worth the purchase ? or should i wait for a price drop etc ?

PS . this one is 3G model.

the blotches are normal, its one of the few detractors of OLED. Personally id recommend the vita, being both a launch 3ds and vita owner i felt that the vita is a much nicer hand held than the 3ds, hopefully the games pick up eventually

 

[liger05]

People actually try and lump the vita disappointing sales with the 3DS? Really. There is no similarities at all. Can you imagine what this place would of been like if the 3DS was sitting at 10 mil right now instead of 30 mil.

 

[Laguna]

It´s interesting that a price drop, new PSV color and releases like PSO2 and Senran Kagura were needed to even reach last years low results in Japan.

week9: year to date sales in Japan

2013 163.582
2012 160.035

@liger
I think they are just bitter.

 

[Celestial]

KH 3D is not a spin-off; story is a follow-up of KH2, and protagonists are the same; it also has many new worlds, that don't feel like corridors as those in BbS. It doesn't rely so much on touch commands (actually, you can finish the game without using them if not in very specific situations). The novelty in KH 3D is the flowmotion, which is totally gorgeous. As for Atlus, well, its main production is on 3DS, and anyway Dragon's Crown is not an Atlus game, but a Vanillaware ones (not particularly known for interesting action games outside the beautiful visual aspect). Anyway, I'm done here, if you want to reply, do as a private messages; I just wanted to reply here because you wrote some factually wrong things.

So many wrong things in this post...where should i begin?

Okay first of all KH3D is spin off title just like Birth by Sleep,Days and Coded.Every title is a spin off unless it is a numbered title.I dont know what exactly you want to achieve saying things like that....that 3DS has a main KH title while PS3 or PSP dont?Just because it is a follow up story and has the same characters doen't mean it can be considered a main title in the series.I have played all KH except 3D and i wont play it since it is a spin off title and i am full with them after Days and BBS.I am just gonna wait for 3 and i am 100% sure that i can play it and understand it completely without having played 3D.I am just gonna stop here posting things that are completely out of topic.I am suggesting you to do the same but you already ruined this topic so......

 

[Mpl90]

Wait. BBS and 3D at the same level of Coded? ...Really? Maybe they're not numbered, but both BBS and 3D are main chapter because they follow the main """storyline""" (BBS is KH0, while KH3D is the introduction to KH3)and they have brand new worlds.

 

[michaelius]

It´s interesting that a price drop, new PSV color and releases like PSO2 and Senran Kagura were needed to even reach last years low results in Japan.

week9: year to date sales in Japan

2013 163.582
2012 160.035

@liger
I think they are just bitter.

It's interesting some posters conviently forgotten that first weeks of 2012 were shortly after vita launch ....

 

[clay_ghost]

So many wrong things in this post...where should i begin?

.I am just gonna wait for 3 and i am 100% sure that i can play it and understand it completely without having played 3D.

No, you should go watch a youtube play thought before KH3 if you are mot playing 3D.

It is as important as BBS , if not more, since it introduce and explains much stuff for the KH universe.

It will be worst than playing KH2 without playing COM since Sora forgets about everyone in COM.
What happen here, everyone remember.

 

[Soriku]

So many wrong things in this post...where should i begin?

Okay first of all KH3D is spin off title just like Birth by Sleep,Days and Coded.Every title is a spin off unless it is a numbered title.I dont know what exactly you want to achieve saying things like that....that 3DS has a main KH title while PS3 or PSP dont?Just because it is a follow up story and has the same characters doen't mean it can be considered a main title in the series.I have played all KH except 3D and i wont play it since it is a spin off title and i am full with them after Days and BBS.I am just gonna wait for 3 and i am 100% sure that i can play it and understand it completely without having played 3D.I am just gonna stop here posting things that are completely out of topic.I am suggesting you to do the same but you already ruined this topic so......

3D and BBS aren't "spin offs." I think people really confuse spin offs with side stories. Anyway, 3D and BBS have much more in common with KH1 and KH2 than Days or Coded.

Also 3D introduced new stuff in the last world that you won't understand fully if you haven't played it or at least read up on the story. The whole Sleeping World thing may also continue to be a plot point in the future.

 

[Celestial]

No, you should go watch a youtube play thought before KH3 if you are mot playing 3D.

It is as important as BBS , if not more, since it introduce and explains much stuff for the KH universe.

3D and BBS aren't "spin offs." I think people really confuse spin offs with side stories. Anyway, 3D and BBS have much more in common with KH1 and KH2 than Days or Coded.

Also 3D introduced new stuff in the last world that you won't understand fully if you haven't played it or at least read up on the story.

I am gonna save these 2 posts and when Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out and i will post them again to see if you were right about the part that i wont understand 3 if i dont play 3D.

 

[Soriku]

I am gonna save these 2 posts and when Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out and i will post them again to see if you were right about the part that i wont understand 3 if i dont play 3D.

You don't have to play it. But if you don't at least read up on it you're going to be confused where some stuff came from. If you literally know nothing about 3D's story then there's no way you won't question some things going into KH3 when the plot starts getting dished out.